OT: Raiders least desirable team to play for

Quake Griffin · Post #1221 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:18 am

Todd Downing as QB coach.

not bad.

Neddy · Post #1222 » by **Neddy** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:53 am

GoRapstheoriginal wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/oakland-raiders/post/_/id/9129/raiders-reportedly-bringing-in-college-defensive-coach

Reports: Raiders bringing in college defensive coach Sal Sunseri

that just means he is a coach in title only and JDR will be calling all defensive plays.

Quake Griffin · Post #1223 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:54 am

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015/1/2 ... ass-rusher

I think this is a good read on rookie pass rushers since Randy Gregory and Shane Ray seem in play for us.

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #1224 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:38 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/oakland-raiders ... casualties

Also: Updated Oakland Raiders' coaching search scorecard:

http://espn.go.com/blog/oakland-raiders ... corecard-5

Twinkie defense · Post #1225 » by **Twinkie defense** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:35 pm

Supposedly Raiders had to make a HC hire fast so that there were great coordinators and assistants to choose from. But instead Raiders seem to be hiring a bunch of unemployed guys who happen to have worked with Del Rio (with somewhat uninspiring results). What gives?

RoyalMajesty · Post #1226 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:10 am

FireNellieQuick wrote:DT isn't our biggest need, it just so happens a potential stud is there at 4 in Leo. I'd be happy trading down and landing Peat or Stanley in the 6-10 range too.

Dez, Demariyus, Cobb all FAs.

Keep on dreaming, Those guys are not leaving their team especially with a thing called a "Franchise Tag" that Reggie McKenzie forgot to use on Jared Veldheer.

RoyalMajesty · Post #1227 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:18 am

Twinkie defense wrote:Marcus Robertson back, that is good news.

That also mean Charles Woodson will be back as well because he talked highly about both Marcus Robertson and Joe Woods and those two coaches will play a huge part if C-Wood is going to come back or not. Right now, I think Joe Woods will be somewhere else considering that Marcus Robertson just got a promotion from assistant DB coach to the DB coach.

RoyalMajesty · Post #1228 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:24 am

Quake Griffin wrote:Todd Downing as QB coach.

not bad.

Matthew Stafford under QB Coach Todd Downing from 2011 to 2013:

2011=5,038 Yards, 41 TD, 16 INT, 63.5 CMP%, 97.2 RAT
2012=4,967 Yards, 20 TD, 17 INT, 59.8 CMP%, 79.8 RAT
2013=4,650 Yards, 29 TD. 19 INT, 58.5 CMP%, 84.2 RAT

Quake Griffin · Post #1229 » by **Quake Griffin** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:26 am

RoyalMajesty wrote:
FireNellieQuick wrote:DT isn't our biggest need, it just so happens a potential stud is there at 4 in Leo. I'd be happy trading down and landing Peat or Stanley in the 6-10 range too.

Dez, Demariyus, Cobb all FAs.

Keep on dreaming, Those guys are not leaving their team especially with a thing called a "Franchise Tag" that Reggie McKenzie forgot to use on Jared Veldheer.

Nah.

good riddance Veldheer.
we're straight.

Quake Griffin · Post #1230 » by **Quake Griffin** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:28 am

RoyalMajesty wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:Todd Downing as QB coach.

not bad.

Matthew Stafford under QB Coach Todd Downing from 2011 to 2013:

2011=5,038 Yards, 41 TD, 16 INT, 63.5 CMP%, 97.2 RAT
2012=4,967 Yards, 20 TD, 17 INT, 59.8 CMP%, 79.8 RAT
2013=4,650 Yards, 29 TD. 19 INT, 58.5 CMP%, 84.2 RAT

Post his 2014 numbers.

I'm sure they got astronomically better.

RoyalMajesty · Post #1231 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:29 am

Quake Griffin wrote:
RoyalMajesty wrote:
FireNellieQuick wrote:DT isn't our biggest need, it just so happens a potential stud is there at 4 in Leo. I'd be happy trading down and landing Peat or Stanley in the 6-10 range too.

Dez, Demariyus, Cobb all FAs.

Keep on dreaming, Those guys are not leaving their team especially with a thing called a "Franchise Tag" that Reggie McKenzie forgot to use on Jared Veldheer.

Nah.

good riddance Veldheer.
we're straight.

Franchise tag him and trade him at least. He's a quality offensive lineman and those guys are always in demand. The Raiders got nothing in return out of it. Poor decision, but people continued to denied it.

RoyalMajesty · Post #1232 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:31 am

Quake Griffin wrote:
RoyalMajesty wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:Todd Downing as QB coach.

not bad.

Matthew Stafford under QB Coach Todd Downing from 2011 to 2013:

2011=5,038 Yards, 41 TD, 16 INT, 63.5 CMP%, 97.2 RAT
2012=4,967 Yards, 20 TD, 17 INT, 59.8 CMP%, 79.8 RAT
2013=4,650 Yards, 29 TD. 19 INT, 58.5 CMP%, 84.2 RAT

Post his 2014 numbers.

I'm sure they got astronomically better.

2014=4,257 yards, 22 TD, 12 INT, 60.3 CMP%. 85.7 RAT

RoyalMajesty · Post #1233 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:33 am

FireNellieQuick wrote:Supposedly he gained a lot of weight. Disappointing after a great run to close the season before. Camp will be big for him

Starter huh FNQ? Stacy McGee is just a rotational player. Justin Ellis > Stacy McGee

RoyalMajesty · Post #1234 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:36 am

FireNellieQuick wrote:We now have interest in Mel Tucker for DC.. Another underwhelming choice. The narrative that JDR would attract more legit candidates is overshadowed by him hiring guys who he's familiar with. Casting a wide net doesnt mean crap if its full of holes, letting the best fish get away

I'm surprised Jim Schwartz is not being interview. He's my top choice for the Raiders defensive coordinator position now that Vic Fangio is going to the Bears. Besides the Raiders and Broncos, what other teams are out there with a open spot at the defensive coordinator position? Falcons?

RoyalMajesty · Post #1235 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:46 am

Twinkie defense wrote:Interestingly, Bill Romanowski says the one FA the Raiders should be sure to keep is Stephan Wisniewski... oops he is the one most likely to leave.

And now Romo is majorly ripping Damon Bruce a new one... lol Damon Bruce sucks. Listening to him is like listenting to fingernails scrape on a chalkboard while you chew aluminum foil. How did that guy ever get on FM?

No matter who the Raiders draft, if they don't get a major upgrade at WR that will be a huge fail.

The last thing we need is another hole on the offensive line. I truly believe Stefen Wisniewski needs to be move to right guard where he belongs because that's more of a natural position for him than center AND I truly believe Austin Howard need to be move to right tackle where he belongs because that's more of a natural position for him than right guard. We just need to go draft a true center from the 2015 NFL Draft like Reese Dismukes from Auburn in the 3rd Round.

LT=Donald Penn & Khalif Barnes/Menelik Watson
LG=Gabe Jackson & Tony Bergstrom
C=Reese Dismukes (3rd Round)
RG=Stefen Wisniewkski (Resign) & Kevin Boothe
RT=Austin Howard & Menelik Watson/Khalif Barnes

Post #1236 » by **FNQ** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:46 am

RoyalMajesty wrote:
FireNellieQuick wrote:Supposedly he gained a lot of weight. Disappointing after a great run to close the season before. Camp will be big for him

Starter huh FNQ? Stacy McGee is just a rotational player. Justin Ellis > Stacy McGee

He has the talent and physical build to be a starting DT in a 4-3. That hasn't changed and was not why he dropped - it was always motivation. Some players turn a corner, mentally, in time. Some posters too

Post #1237 » by **FNQ** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:48 am

Quake Griffin wrote:
RoyalMajesty wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:Todd Downing as QB coach.

not bad.

Matthew Stafford under QB Coach Todd Downing from 2011 to 2013:

2011=5,038 Yards, 41 TD, 16 INT, 63.5 CMP%, 97.2 RAT
2012=4,967 Yards, 20 TD, 17 INT, 59.8 CMP%, 79.8 RAT
2013=4,650 Yards, 29 TD. 19 INT, 58.5 CMP%, 84.2 RAT

Post his 2014 numbers.

I'm sure they got astronomically better.

It really doesn't matter. #s without context. Care to see his take on Olson? Any successes were someone else's, every failure was him

Post #1238 » by **FNQ** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:52 am

RoyalMajesty wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:Interestingly, Bill Romanowski says the one FA the Raiders should be sure to keep is Stephan Wisniewski... oops he is the one most likely to leave.

And now Romo is majorly ripping Damon Bruce a new one... lol Damon Bruce sucks. Listening to him is like listenting to fingernails scrape on a chalkboard while you chew aluminum foil. How did that guy ever get on FM?

No matter who the Raiders draft, if they don't get a major upgrade at WR that will be a huge fail.

The last thing we need is another hole on the offensive line. I truly believe Stefen Wisniewski needs to be move to right guard where he belongs because that's more of a natural position for him than center AND I truly believe Austin Howard need to be move to right tackle where he belongs because that's more of a natural position for him than right guard. We just need to go draft a true center from the 2015 NFL Draft like Reese Dismukes from Auburn in the 3rd Round.

LT=Donald Penn & Khalif Barnes/Menelik Watson
LG=Gabe Jackson & Tony Bergstrom
C=Reese Dismukes (3rd Round)
RG=Stefen Wisniewkski (Resign) & Kevin Boothe
RT=Austin Howard & Menelik Watson/Khalif Barnes

Just can FYI, more starting Cs come in the 4-6 rounds than in 2-3... strange but true the past 3 seasons. It's not worth a heavy investment outside of the elite.

Wiz was a lousy guard. He should stay a C, where he's at least average

RoyalMajesty · Post #1239 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:56 am

FireNellieQuick wrote:
RoyalMajesty wrote:
FireNellieQuick wrote:Supposedly he gained a lot of weight. Disappointing after a great run to close the season before. Camp will be big for him

Starter huh FNQ? Stacy McGee is just a rotational player. Justin Ellis > Stacy McGee

He has the talent and physical build to be a starting DT in a 4-3. That hasn't changed and was not why he dropped - it was always motivation. Some players turn a corner, mentally, in time. Some posters too

A lot of DTs before Stacy McGee got the similar build or better and just as talented or even better as well, but they don't always turn out to be a starter. If Stacy McGee doesn't want it, there's 23482034820 other DTs that wants his position. I rather go find that guy through free agency or in the 2015 NFL Draft than wait around for your boy to finally have his light bulb turn on.

RoyalMajesty · Post #1240 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:02 am

FireNellieQuick wrote:
RoyalMajesty wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:Interestingly, Bill Romanowski says the one FA the Raiders should be sure to keep is Stephan Wisniewski... oops he is the one most likely to leave.

And now Romo is majorly ripping Damon Bruce a new one... lol Damon Bruce sucks. Listening to him is like listenting to fingernails scrape on a chalkboard while you chew aluminum foil. How did that guy ever get on FM?

No matter who the Raiders draft, if they don't get a major upgrade at WR that will be a huge fail.

The last thing we need is another hole on the offensive line. I truly believe Stefen Wisniewski needs to be move to right guard where he belongs because that's more of a natural position for him than center AND I truly believe Austin Howard need to be move to right tackle where he belongs because that's more of a natural position for him than right guard. We just need to go draft a true center from the 2015 NFL Draft like Reese Dismukes from Auburn in the 3rd Round.

LT=Donald Penn & Khalif Barnes/Menelik Watson
LG=Gabe Jackson & Tony Bergstrom
C=Reese Dismukes (3rd Round)
RG=Stefen Wisniewkski (Resign) & Kevin Boothe
RT=Austin Howard & Menelik Watson/Khalif Barnes

Just can FYI, more starting Cs come in the 4-6 rounds than in 2-3... strange but true the past 3 seasons. It's not worth a heavy investment outside of the elite.

Wiz was a lousy guard. He should stay a C, where he's at least average

I disagree. At center, he got more responsibilities, doesn't react quickly, more reads, and this is where he failed at. Make him a guard where he can use his techniques and get into his stance more quickly while also focus more on the guy in front of him instead 3 or 4 guys flying out of everywhere.

What guys in round 4 to 6 that's going to be a good center?