Re: 2024 Off-Season
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:08 pm
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CrimsonCrew wrote:Samurai wrote:Big J wrote:
The bigger concern is whether they are going to pay Purdy after his rookie contact is up. If that happens this team is cooked.
I fully expect that the Niners will extend Purdy when his rookie contract is up, which is why getting a Super Bowl this year is so important. Obviously a number of big contracts will have to be removed to make room for Purdy. Unless Purdy falls apart this season, he did finish 4th in MVP voting this past season and it isn't logical to assume that they will be able to find a cheaper QB among the top five in MVP voting. (I also have zero interest in whether YOU would pay Purdy because your agenda on Purdy has been made clear).
None of which changes my previous post that regardless of the size of the current QB contracts, the team is currently managing a tight amount of cap space, and thus there is a significant difference between $2.25M and $5.45M, which is what Wilson would be assuming the Jets don't eat any of that money. There were some arguing for Wilson as if the cap just magically disappeared, which isn't reality.
I think the team will have to extend Purdy next offseason. He has far outperformed his contract, and he would be certifiably insane to take the field on a contract that pays under a million dollars once he is eligible for a new contract. I can't think of any player who wouldn't hold out under those circumstances.
Big J wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:Samurai wrote:I fully expect that the Niners will extend Purdy when his rookie contract is up, which is why getting a Super Bowl this year is so important. Obviously a number of big contracts will have to be removed to make room for Purdy. Unless Purdy falls apart this season, he did finish 4th in MVP voting this past season and it isn't logical to assume that they will be able to find a cheaper QB among the top five in MVP voting. (I also have zero interest in whether YOU would pay Purdy because your agenda on Purdy has been made clear).
None of which changes my previous post that regardless of the size of the current QB contracts, the team is currently managing a tight amount of cap space, and thus there is a significant difference between $2.25M and $5.45M, which is what Wilson would be assuming the Jets don't eat any of that money. There were some arguing for Wilson as if the cap just magically disappeared, which isn't reality.
I think the team will have to extend Purdy next offseason. He has far outperformed his contract, and he would be certifiably insane to take the field on a contract that pays under a million dollars once he is eligible for a new contract. I can't think of any player who wouldn't hold out under those circumstances.
Why do we "have to extend" Purdy? Kyle could easily plug in another Jimmy G, Purdy type into his system and make the Superbowl. Those guys can be found on the bargain heap bin for peanuts. If we're going to pay top dollar to a QB it has to be a truly elite guy like Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, or Lamar. Getting one of those guys was the whole reason for moving up to draft Lance.
Big J wrote:Pattersonca65 wrote:Big J wrote:
The bigger concern is whether they are going to pay Purdy after his rookie contact is up. If that happens this team is cooked.
Yea right. They should have paid Trey Lance his fifth year option so the third stringer can sit on the bench. But but he has great upside.
Lances 5th year option would have been peanuts compared to what they are going to have to pay for Purdys next deal.
Pattersonca65 wrote:Big J wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:
I think the team will have to extend Purdy next offseason. He has far outperformed his contract, and he would be certifiably insane to take the field on a contract that pays under a million dollars once he is eligible for a new contract. I can't think of any player who wouldn't hold out under those circumstances.
Why do we "have to extend" Purdy? Kyle could easily plug in another Jimmy G, Purdy type into his system and make the Superbowl. Those guys can be found on the bargain heap bin for peanuts. If we're going to pay top dollar to a QB it has to be a truly elite guy like Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, or Lamar. Getting one of those guys was the whole reason for moving up to draft Lance.
Pattersonca65 wrote:Big J wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:
I think the team will have to extend Purdy next offseason. He has far outperformed his contract, and he would be certifiably insane to take the field on a contract that pays under a million dollars once he is eligible for a new contract. I can't think of any player who wouldn't hold out under those circumstances.
Why do we "have to extend" Purdy? Kyle could easily plug in another Jimmy G, Purdy type into his system and make the Superbowl. Those guys can be found on the bargain heap bin for peanuts. If we're going to pay top dollar to a QB it has to be a truly elite guy like Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, or Lamar. Getting one of those guys was the whole reason for moving up to draft Lance.
You are delusional
Pattersonca65 wrote:Pattersonca65 wrote:Big J wrote:
Why do we "have to extend" Purdy? Kyle could easily plug in another Jimmy G, Purdy type into his system and make the Superbowl. Those guys can be found on the bargain heap bin for peanuts. If we're going to pay top dollar to a QB it has to be a truly elite guy like Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, or Lamar. Getting one of those guys was the whole reason for moving up to draft Lance.
Lol, Lamar is such an elite guy he just chocked in the playoffs again. Only Mahomes has a SB.
Big J wrote:Pattersonca65 wrote:Pattersonca65 wrote:
Lol, Lamar is such an elite guy he just chocked in the playoffs again. Only Mahomes has a SB.
Yes, but all of those guys actually have the ability to carry a non stacked roster to a Super Bowl. Purdy doesn't.
arich35 wrote:Pattersonca65 wrote:Big J wrote:
Why do we "have to extend" Purdy? Kyle could easily plug in another Jimmy G, Purdy type into his system and make the Superbowl. Those guys can be found on the bargain heap bin for peanuts. If we're going to pay top dollar to a QB it has to be a truly elite guy like Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, or Lamar. Getting one of those guys was the whole reason for moving up to draft Lance.
You are delusional
Always has been.
Big J wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:Samurai wrote:I fully expect that the Niners will extend Purdy when his rookie contract is up, which is why getting a Super Bowl this year is so important. Obviously a number of big contracts will have to be removed to make room for Purdy. Unless Purdy falls apart this season, he did finish 4th in MVP voting this past season and it isn't logical to assume that they will be able to find a cheaper QB among the top five in MVP voting. (I also have zero interest in whether YOU would pay Purdy because your agenda on Purdy has been made clear).
None of which changes my previous post that regardless of the size of the current QB contracts, the team is currently managing a tight amount of cap space, and thus there is a significant difference between $2.25M and $5.45M, which is what Wilson would be assuming the Jets don't eat any of that money. There were some arguing for Wilson as if the cap just magically disappeared, which isn't reality.
I think the team will have to extend Purdy next offseason. He has far outperformed his contract, and he would be certifiably insane to take the field on a contract that pays under a million dollars once he is eligible for a new contract. I can't think of any player who wouldn't hold out under those circumstances.
Why do we "have to extend" Purdy? Kyle could easily plug in another Jimmy G, Purdy type into his system and make the Superbowl. Those guys can be found on the bargain heap bin for peanuts. If we're going to pay top dollar to a QB it has to be a truly elite guy like Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, or Lamar. Getting one of those guys was the whole reason for moving up to draft Lance.
Big J wrote:Pattersonca65 wrote:Pattersonca65 wrote:
Lol, Lamar is such an elite guy he just chocked in the playoffs again. Only Mahomes has a SB.
Yes, but all of those guys actually have the ability to carry a non stacked roster to a Super Bowl. Purdy doesn't.
CrimsonCrew wrote:Big J wrote:Pattersonca65 wrote:
Lol, Lamar is such an elite guy he just chocked in the playoffs again. Only Mahomes has a SB.
Yes, but all of those guys actually have the ability to carry a non stacked roster to a Super Bowl. Purdy doesn't.
He did plenty of carrying in the NFC Championship game.
Let's consider the supporting casts of the QBs in the championship games.
Mahomes played opposite the best defense in the league this past year. Without their stellar play, no chance he wins the SB this year. He produced 17 points against Baltimore, and 19 regulation points against us. He needed the D to keep those games close. He also has probably the best receiving TE in NFL history and a strong run game (this year).
Jackson played opposite an elite defense. He played behind probably a top-3 OL. He had a very strong run game. He had a deep and versatile group of receiving options. He produced ten points in the championship game.
Goff played behind probably the best OL in the league. He had a great 1-2 punch in the league at RB. He had an elite WR and TE, and several solid receivers behind that.
These guys all had exceptional supporting casts. Only one of them won the SB.
Big J wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:Big J wrote:
Yes, but all of those guys actually have the ability to carry a non stacked roster to a Super Bowl. Purdy doesn't.
He did plenty of carrying in the NFC Championship game.
Let's consider the supporting casts of the QBs in the championship games.
Mahomes played opposite the best defense in the league this past year. Without their stellar play, no chance he wins the SB this year. He produced 17 points against Baltimore, and 19 regulation points against us. He needed the D to keep those games close. He also has probably the best receiving TE in NFL history and a strong run game (this year).
Jackson played opposite an elite defense. He played behind probably a top-3 OL. He had a very strong run game. He had a deep and versatile group of receiving options. He produced ten points in the championship game.
Goff played behind probably the best OL in the league. He had a great 1-2 punch in the league at RB. He had an elite WR and TE, and several solid receivers behind that.
These guys all had exceptional supporting casts. Only one of them won the SB.
Lol, Mahomes receiving corps was absolute dog bleep all year, and his running backs were no names compared to CMAC. His O Line was mostly garbage. Sure, Kelce is great, but even he is no longer as good as he used to be. He had a good D, but that does nothing to make you look good on his side of the field.
Big J wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:Big J wrote:
Yes, but all of those guys actually have the ability to carry a non stacked roster to a Super Bowl. Purdy doesn't.
He did plenty of carrying in the NFC Championship game.
Let's consider the supporting casts of the QBs in the championship games.
Mahomes played opposite the best defense in the league this past year. Without their stellar play, no chance he wins the SB this year. He produced 17 points against Baltimore, and 19 regulation points against us. He needed the D to keep those games close. He also has probably the best receiving TE in NFL history and a strong run game (this year).
Jackson played opposite an elite defense. He played behind probably a top-3 OL. He had a very strong run game. He had a deep and versatile group of receiving options. He produced ten points in the championship game.
Goff played behind probably the best OL in the league. He had a great 1-2 punch in the league at RB. He had an elite WR and TE, and several solid receivers behind that.
These guys all had exceptional supporting casts. Only one of them won the SB.
Lol, Mahomes receiving corps was absolute dog bleep all year, and his running backs were no names compared to CMAC. His O Line was mostly garbage. Sure, Kelce is great, but even he is no longer as good as he used to be. He had a good D, but that does nothing to make you look good on his side of the field.
Pattersonca65 wrote:
I don't see any way that would happen. He really isn't Shanahan's kind of lineman. While Brown is seen as nimble for someone his size, Shanahan prefers guys more athletic that are quicker and get out and run block in space. Add to that he's had difficulty keeping his weight under control during his career. There were also questions about his work ethic and ability to grasp Shanahan's playbook. In the end Shanahan didn't want him, I suspect he still wouldn't have any interest.