Roscoe Sheed wrote:og15 wrote:Roscoe Sheed wrote:I agree the Clips need a solid defender at the 3. Barnes is good. CDR might be decent. I was just brainstorming. I wish Doc would have addressed the problem better in the off season. I know he wanted Pierce- too bad he couldn't get him.
I know this will never happen- but if I were in charage, I'd widen the court in order to move the 3 point line out to 25 feet so that teams wouldn't rely on it so much. Perhaps big men would learn how to post up better and thje mid-range game would return.
He certainly tried, but it was due to a lack of resources, not a lack of effort
How can we complain about the mid-range game as Clippers fans though? CP is one of the biggest users and is deadly from mid-range.
My complaint about the lack of mid-range game and post up ability was a general complaint about the modern NBA, not necessarily a complaint about the Clippers in particular.
I just don't like the over-reliance on the 3 point shot in the modern game. The players have become too good at it and there are too many specialists at the expense of other skillsets- that is why I think they should move the line out- although I know it will never happen.
I know, sorry, I was just pulling your leg
It's actually interesting though, many professions as they progress move towards specialization. While it is nice for everyone to be able to do everything, when you have people who become experts in doing specific things, they are more efficient at it, and the "team" or workers become more productive than if everyone was just trying to do it all.
As nice as it is to have a lot of versatile players, it's hard to accomplish, and I think we take for granted that while the great teams had that before because the league allowed teams to be stacked, a lot of the other teams had guys who were trying to do a lot of things but not really succeeding.
The reality becomes that some guys aren't highly skilled enough to be efficient when they are doing many things, and then they don't have the refined skills in specific areas to play and be highly effective in a more specific and limited role. So what happens is that the guys who do limited things but are really good at those limited things bring more value to a team concept than the guys who can do a lot but don't have skills that they are efficient at.
It's the whole James Johnson vs like a DeMarre Carroll or P.J. Tucker kind of thing. Johnson is more skilled, if he got to start on a bad enough team he would put up like 13-14 pts, 6 rebs, 3-4 assists, block shots, score in different ways, etc, etc, but he won't be efficient, he'll turn it over a little much, he won't spread the floor. On a team with better players, he'll get in the way of your better players, take away possessions from them. A guy who averages 10 pts, 5 rebs, 2 assists, hits 40% 3PT, scores only in specific spots and plays defense ends up helping the team more on offense and defense and compliment your stars.
The stars are the ones who can be efficient doing multiple things, and for the team concept, players who are effective in more specific roles benefit the whole team more than guys who can do a lot of things, but just at a marginally good level.
I don't know if it is a "bad" thing necessarily, I think it is partially a good thing that the value of specialized players is recognized. A lot of specialized players aren't dynamic, but they make the team much better than a guy who would destroy them in a one on one game. I think the other bonus we see is that offenses actually look very nice with the three point line. A lot of ball movement, quick passes and smooth outside shooting. Without a 3PT line, there was still specialized players, though different types of specialized players. It would have been interesting to see what type of specialized player would have been valued as basketball progressed if there was no 3PT line. I suppose slashers who draw fouls would have great value due to the efficiency of FT's of course in addition to interior players.
A lot of teams did start to just go to bring the ball down the court and iso in the post every possession, and as much as I love post play, I have reservations as to whether that was in itself "good" basketball. A lot of stagnant action there, not really as fun as seeing SA run you through a couple of screens set up some misdirection and have the roll man know that as soon as the defense converges he is sniping the ball to the corner shooter. I think a balance is definitely good though.
I actually wouldn't mind a league with a 3PT line that is further back. It would be interesting to see, but because of the size of the court, it would just magnify the desire for corner three's, but I wouldn't mind a league with a longer three point line and no corner three.
" Low and behold it bled right into the regular season. Of course CP3 and Blake will finish games but we are seeing some reality here, don't get it twisted