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Transaction Discussion Part 3 (Trades, Free-Agency, News, Rumors & Ideas)

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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#181 » by wablty » Sat Jul 2, 2016 7:01 am

Neddy wrote:
BallinBen wrote:Yo if you guys get Durant, you're going to need cap space, so what would the Clips expect to get for JJ Reddick is a salary dump to the 76ers? We have plenty of cheap contracts.



JJ and Paul Pierce for Covington, Grant, and your 1st rounder.


Don't be silly. Paul Pierce is a non-guaranteed contract. You can just release him anyways. It's basically Redick for a good young wing, a halfway decent prospect and a likely lotto pick? Come on. That's ridiculous even if you wouldn't be in desperation salary dump mode, which the Clippers will absolutely be in if Durant is coming on.

You''ll likely trade Redick for a heavily protected 1st that might turn into a 2nd rounder 3 years from now.
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#182 » by UKClipperfan » Sat Jul 2, 2016 11:13 am

Neddy wrote:
BallinBen wrote:Yo if you guys get Durant, you're going to need cap space, so what would the Clips expect to get for JJ Reddick is a salary dump to the 76ers? We have plenty of cheap contracts.



JJ and Paul Pierce for Covington, Grant, and your 1st rounder.


Would love Covington's cheap contract and their 1st rounder, but to trade him to the Sixers? These Sixers? That just feels dirty. He'd just leave a year later so they wouldn't do that trade anyway. In theory every team would want an elite calibre shooter like JJ, so we shouldn't have to do him dirty like that by trading him to the Sixers. There has to be a good team in the east that makes sense for all parties involved. We could give Pierce his homecoming in Boston and get a good pick out of it. JJ is close with Lowry apparently, so we could send him to Toronto and get our 1st rounder back.
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#183 » by Neddy » Sat Jul 2, 2016 8:08 pm

UKClipperfan wrote:
Neddy wrote:
BallinBen wrote:Yo if you guys get Durant, you're going to need cap space, so what would the Clips expect to get for JJ Reddick is a salary dump to the 76ers? We have plenty of cheap contracts.



JJ and Paul Pierce for Covington, Grant, and your 1st rounder.


Would love Covington's cheap contract and their 1st rounder, but to trade him to the Sixers? These Sixers? That just feels dirty. He'd just leave a year later so they wouldn't do that trade anyway. In theory every team would want an elite calibre shooter like JJ, so we shouldn't have to do him dirty like that by trading him to the Sixers. There has to be a good team in the east that makes sense for all parties involved. We could give Pierce his homecoming in Boston and get a good pick out of it. JJ is close with Lowry apparently, so we could send him to Toronto and get our 1st rounder back.


JJ is a pro. he is making nearly 8 million next season with a hefty pay raise the year after. he may average 20 points with the 6ers and with the cost of living and state tax code difference, he is doing himself a favor financially. or he can keep his famiy in LA and resign with us when his contract expires. I can't really see a downside of playing for the sixers, as we the clippers had the same sense of dread related to getting traded here 2 decades ago, even Ron Harper comparing playing for the clippers a jail sentence. but just because a player is playing for a losing franchise, his pay does not get cut. his playing time probably increases which would help his free agency value with better stat numbers. it is one thing to be a rookie thrown in a bad situation, but for vets, it should not matter. they are afterall, supposed to be professionals.

now having said that, trading Paul Pierce to them will do everyone a favor. he won't play for them so he would retire. that will save the 6ers salary to put towards to a free agent PG. that also opens up a roster spot for the 6ers, which the way their roster looks, they can use. for Paul, it gives him a chance to sign a one day contract with a permission from the league, to retire as a celtic as he should. the pick was a first offer. too many kids on these forums who have no concept of negotiations. if they don't like the first offer, they could come back with a counter. someday they will learn. I would have settled with their 2017 second rounder and 2018 Brooklyn Nets second rounder they own.
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#184 » by UKClipperfan » Mon Jul 4, 2016 9:44 am

Would still feel dirty to trade him to one of the worst teams. Doesn't send the right message. Makes more sense to find an east playoff team that would actually have reason to part with an asset. Don't think JJ would average 20 with the Sixers tho. He needs good players around him to do well. He took a bit of a hit when he was traded to the Bucks. Pierce could retire of course, but is kinda interesting in a sense that he's the only guy on our roster that could be traded. Doc won't trade Austin, Jamal or West now, so our roster is pretty much set apart from the BAE and a few vet mins. Wonder if Boston would trade us a token asset for Pierce.
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#185 » by Neddy » Mon Jul 4, 2016 5:32 pm

UKClipperfan wrote:Would still feel dirty to trade him to one of the worst teams. Doesn't send the right message. Makes more sense to find an east playoff team that would actually have reason to part with an asset. Don't think JJ would average 20 with the Sixers tho. He needs good players around him to do well. He took a bit of a hit when he was traded to the Bucks. Pierce could retire of course, but is kinda interesting in a sense that he's the only guy on our roster that could be traded. Doc won't trade Austin, Jamal or West now, so our roster is pretty much set apart from the BAE and a few vet mins. Wonder if Boston would trade us a token asset for Pierce.


^well this topic is now completely a moot point. let's move on to what we should pay JJ when his deal is over to stay in LA.
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#186 » by og15 » Mon Jul 4, 2016 9:01 pm

Are there any trades we can make using CJ Wilcox? Re-signing Austin and Jamal essentially cements him as still being the teams 5th guard and not really getting any minutes. The guy is like 26 years old. Is there a C we could trade him for? Anything?
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Post#187 » by Neddy » Mon Jul 4, 2016 9:48 pm

og15 wrote:Are there any trades we can make using CJ Wilcox? Re-signing Austin and Jamal essentially cements him as still being the teams 5th guard and not really getting any minutes. The guy is like 26 years old. Is there a C we could trade him for? Anything?



well now that the Pistons locked up Andre Drummonds and signed Jon Leuer while still having Aron Baynes, I suppose we could trade CJ and Dawson for Joel Anthony?
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#188 » by og15 » Mon Jul 4, 2016 9:52 pm

I have a friend that is a Heat fan and we make so many Joel Anthony jokes. I even forget that he's still in the league. I don't think we want his air balling layups self
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#189 » by QRich3 » Tue Jul 5, 2016 8:20 am

I liked Dinwiddie from the Pistons as a 3rd PG, and maybe we could've gotten him for Wilcox with how much SVG likes shooters, but they traded him to the Bulls earlier in the offseason. Not sure there's anything worth it to be had.
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#190 » by UKClipperfan » Wed Jul 6, 2016 6:59 pm

og15 wrote:Are there any trades we can make using CJ Wilcox? Re-signing Austin and Jamal essentially cements him as still being the teams 5th guard and not really getting any minutes. The guy is like 26 years old. Is there a C we could trade him for? Anything?


Adreian Payne?
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Post#191 » by og15 » Wed Jul 6, 2016 10:18 pm

He's not a C though :(
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Ideas to get our 1st back? 

Post#192 » by UKClipperfan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:40 pm

Boston: Westbrook, Pierce
OKC: Johnson, Jerebko, 2017+18 Nets 1st, Clips 2nd
Clippers: Singler, 2019 Clips 1st

Think we could get our 1st back by saving OKC 20M?
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#193 » by TucsonClip » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:01 pm

OKC would never go for that deal.
Plus, why would I want to go to the NBA? Duke players suck in the pros.

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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#194 » by UKClipperfan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:05 pm

TucsonClip wrote:OKC would never go for that deal.


Meant to include both Nets 1sts, edited.
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Post#195 » by TucsonClip » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:54 pm

UKClipperfan wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:OKC would never go for that deal.


Meant to include both Nets 1sts, edited.


Maybe, but at that point I dont see any reason for OKC to give up a future pick to dump Singler.
Plus, why would I want to go to the NBA? Duke players suck in the pros.

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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#196 » by nickhx2 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:02 pm

yeah might as well just sit on him to see if he gets better and gets them some value. okc for sure would ask for marcus smart in return as well.
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#197 » by QRich3 » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:06 am

Also, the Thunder will never trade Westbrook for two unknown picks. For those thinking the Nets picks are sure to be top picks resulting in a blue chip, I'll remind them of the Minnesota pick we gave New Orleans in the Paul trade. That was an even more sure pick to be top 3 and give you one of the many franchise players available on that draft (Anthony Davis, Drummond, Barnes, Sullinger, etc.). Well, in the end, that pick was 10th and resulted in Austin Rivers. And there weren't many franchise players at the top of that draft either.

If the Thunder trade Westbrook (and I don't think they will), they're gonna want at least one of those picks and a surefire young player that's already in the league and has shown to be really good.
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#198 » by Goner » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:33 pm

Anyone have thoughts on Smitty's reporting: that our FO has engaged in talks with Boston and Sac for a trade involving essentially Blake for Gay? Seems like a horrible move for us (I know there would be more assets coming our way, but the point is that Gay for Blake is what's driving the trade), and Gay probably could have been had for a few protected firsts and salary had Doc not urinated them away.
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#199 » by og15 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:17 pm

I haven't even given any thought to it because it is ridiculous. Sacramento doesn't even have additional players they could trade to make the deal better. There's nothing one their roster that is exciting. The best addition would be Willie Cauley-Stein, but that's barely useful, he's a C. There's just no way to order everything where it makes sense for the Clippers.
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Re: Trade Discussion Part 3 (News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#200 » by Fab Jesus Melo » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:34 am

og15 wrote:I haven't even given any thought to it because it is ridiculous. Sacramento doesn't even have additional players they could trade to make the deal better. There's nothing one their roster that is exciting. The best addition would be Willie Cauley-Stein, but that's barely useful, he's a C. There's just no way to order everything where it makes sense for the Clippers.

How about the Nets pick, two other firsts, Avery Bradley, Terry Rozier, and Tyler Zeller? Then send Rozier and a first to the Kings for Gay!

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