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Just say no to Peyton!

Postby Zonkerbl on Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:30 am

OMG. It's happening again. Some big name guy is available and SNYDER MUST PAY WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET HIM. GIVE INDIANA ALL OUR DRAFT PICKS.

NO! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! The dude's got a frickin neck injury!
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby Illuminaire on Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:47 am

If trading ALL our draft picks to put a shaky, barely repaired Peyton Manning behind a leaky offensive line would finally shame Snyder so much as to make him sell the team... I say go for it.

Otherwise....GRAAAAAAAAH!
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby sashae on Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:11 pm

Is there such a thing as a really well-managed franchise in the DC area (outside of the Ravens?)

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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby LyricalRico on Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:57 pm

FYI - This would not involve a trade. Indy has to pay Manning something like $28M if he's on their roster beyond some date in March. Nobody is going to trade for that contract, so they'll have to release him. That means that the only thing Peyton would cost is Snyder's $$$, which I don't care anything about. And even with the contract, they could structure is so they can get out of it if he can't play.

I wouldn't mind them taking a shot on Manning, along with Reggie Wayne (who will also be a FA). Then they can take a RT with their first round pick (perhaps after trading down) and a QB of the future in the second. And if Peyton can't play, throw the young kid to the wolves.
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby long suffrin' boulez fan on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:00 am

LyricalRico wrote:FYI - This would not involve a trade. Indy has to pay Manning something like $28M if he's on their roster beyond some date in March. Nobody is going to trade for that contract, so they'll have to release him. That means that the only thing Peyton would cost is Snyder's $$$, which I don't care anything about. And even with the contract, they could structure is so they can get out of it if he can't play.

I wouldn't mind them taking a shot on Manning, along with Reggie Wayne (who will also be a FA). Then they can take a RT with their first round pick (perhaps after trading down) and a QB of the future in the second. And if Peyton can't play, throw the young kid to the wolves.



Yeah Rico,

I've talked myself into this very scenario. Manning for Snyder's money, a rt in round one. Tannehill in round two... Wayne or Desean Jackson in free agency... And we'd have both a short and a long term plan.
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby Zonkerbl on Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:24 am

As long as we don't give up any draft picks I'm all for signing him.
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby LyricalRico on Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:47 pm

McNabb chimes on the Manning-to-DC discussion:

"Peyton’s not gonna go there," McNabb said recently on ESPN Radio’s John Thompson Show, via The Washington Post. "I don’t see Peyton ending up in Washington. Because what happens is now, you’re bringing in another veteran who will be 35, 36, who has been in one offense throughout his career. It’s the same situation.

"Now he comes over, and as they say now, Peyton is such an offensive coordinator on the offense. So now what does that do to your offensive coordinator? Does he step down? Does he step back? Does he begin to change the whole offense according to the play of the quarterback that he has in Peyton Manning? Well, I didn’t see that happen, so I definitely don’t see that happening for Peyton."


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... line_stack
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby LyricalRico on Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:54 pm

Also, an article with Chris Weinke (who had the same surgery as Manning):

Since September, both Manning and the Colts have been warned not to set timetables on recovery, which goes back to Weinke so strongly emphasizing the need for patience. But Weinke's rehab does provide an example of how quickly things can progress. After the November 1998 surgery, he couldn't grip a football. Five months later, when the Seminoles started spring ball, he participated and says he could throw "with purpose. And then at seven months, I was throwing the ball at 100 percent."

We know Manning was throwing in December, which means -- at least at that point, three months out of surgery -- he was ahead of Weinke then. The rehab process can flatten out and timetables are hard to come by, but the fact that he could throw a regular football then, according to Weinke, is a good sign.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... o-recovery

At first glance, it sounds optimistic. But, as the article points out, Weinke was much younger than Manning. Also, it seems that Weinke only had to have 1 procedure (although I'm not 100% sure of that) while Peyton has had 4.
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby Rafael122 on Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:29 pm

Would rather put all my eggs in the RG 3 basket, start him Day 1 and go from there. Peyton carries too much risk. And the pundits are in love with the name Manning but refuse to discuss the medical stuff. It's "well he's Peyton Manning." Sure, at 25% of what he once was.
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby LyricalRico on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:18 pm

Brian Billick agrees that Manning and WAS are a poor fit:

As for the Redskins, I find it very hard to imagine Mike Shanahan and Peyton Manning coexisting. Shanahan runs a very scripted offense that is carefully pieced together throughout the course of the preparation week. Manning’s offense is very much fluid in the fact he calls plays in real time based on the look the defense is giving. These are two very different approaches, and because of that, I think the Redskins are better off trading up for Robert Griffin III, no matter the cost. Additionally, Manning knows his years are limited, and he wants to get back to the Super Bowl Playing in the highly competitive NFC East might not be the best path to get there.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyt ... nse-030112

He calls out Seattle, KC, and the Jets as teams that would be the best fits. I still say Arizona probably gives him the best chance to win. It would make the Kolb trade look even worse, but it's probably the right move for them.
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby LyricalRico on Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:37 pm

It's official!

Peyton Manning's 14-year career as a member of the Indianapolis Colts is coming to an end.

Sources close to the team told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen that the announcement will come at a news conference in Indianapolis on Wednesday with both Manning and owner Jim Irsay in attendance.

The decision to pass on the $28 million bonus owed Manning and not to pick up the four remaining years on his contract means Manning will become a free agent, and sources told Mortensen that he intends to continue to play.


The article also had an update on his progress:

Several sources have told ESPN during the past month that Manning's throwing strength has dramatically improved as his nerves continue to regenerate following his latest neck surgery Sept. 8. Dr. Robert Watkins, who performed the single-level cervical fusion, has stated publicly that he has cleared Manning to resume his playing career.


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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby Knighthonor on Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:01 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Brian Billick agrees that Manning and WAS are a poor fit:

As for the Redskins, I find it very hard to imagine Mike Shanahan and Peyton Manning coexisting. Shanahan runs a very scripted offense that is carefully pieced together throughout the course of the preparation week. Manning’s offense is very much fluid in the fact he calls plays in real time based on the look the defense is giving. These are two very different approaches, and because of that, I think the Redskins are better off trading up for Robert Griffin III, no matter the cost. Additionally, Manning knows his years are limited, and he wants to get back to the Super Bowl Playing in the highly competitive NFC East might not be the best path to get there.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyt ... nse-030112

He calls out Seattle, KC, and the Jets as teams that would be the best fits. I still say Arizona probably gives him the best chance to win. It would make the Kolb trade look even worse, but it's probably the right move for them.

Well maybe this is a key sign that the redskins need to change this area, to better themselves.
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby Rafael122 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:38 pm

I just want RG 3. If they sign Manning and get RG 3 in a trade up, I'm fine with that. I just don't want this team to get Peyton and then sign Grossman as a backup.
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby LyricalRico on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:16 am

^ What about Peyton and a trade down for Tannehill where they get more picks in the process?
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Re: Just say no to Peyton!

Postby Rafael122 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:09 pm

Risky because Tannehill might not last past the 10th pick.
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