Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:03 pm
I disagree Big Shot, we'll be in the Finals
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Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:58 pm
In the "fwliw" department I'd much rather have people like Horry around saying we won't win a championship than have all of them saying we will.
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:33 pm
So basically Blake/Meeks/Ebanks/Jamison/Hill is a horrible bench? dafuq Horry.
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:23 pm
I've always appreciated Big Shot Bob for what he did for us, but I know he's always wanted more credit for what a great player he was throughout his career.
This almost feels like he's trying to say, "Do you know how great I was? Don't you know championships are defined by the bench? Oh by the way, I was the best bench player on those championship teams. So give me some more love here."
This almost feels like he's trying to say, "Do you know how great I was? Don't you know championships are defined by the bench? Oh by the way, I was the best bench player on those championship teams. So give me some more love here."
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:20 am
^^^ Pretty much.
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:28 am
didn't he just say some other attention seeking stuff not too long ago?
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:58 am
if we were able to play okc hard with the worst bench in the league, i wonder what we could do with a mid of the pack bench like we have now
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:03 am
Benches are overrated when it comes playoff time
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:14 am
Horry is one of those guys that are great when they are on your team, but then they can't play basketball anymore, then age, then comes the hatred towards the players who are still on the court....
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:15 am
SportsandTacos wrote:if we were able to play okc hard with the worst bench in the league, i wonder what we could do with a mid of the pack bench like we have now
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:18 am
LaLa wrote:So basically Blake/Meeks/Ebanks/Jamison/Hill is a horrible bench? dafuq Horry.
Last year: Blake/Goudelock/Barnes/McRoberts/Murphy
This year: Blake/Meeks/Ebanks/Jamison/Hill
We have definitely built a solid bench to compliment out incredible starters, we don't need a SUPER bench when we have Nash/Kobe/Metta/Pau/Howard.
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:21 am
nbaintel1 wrote:He said HE THINKS - not the Lakers won't. OP, you should know better than that trying to stir up controversy.
It's the title of the effing article
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:32 am
We supposedly had a weak bench in Rob's days here too. Not gonna get mad at what he said, it's easier to say they won't make it as oppose to flat out saying way too early that they'll win it all. Too much flak will come his way if he made such a prediction and it blew up in his face.
But again guys overrate bench play during the playoffs, in reality you only play 2-3 guys decent minutes. For example in 2002 our main guys were Fish and Rob playing a lot more than others.
But again guys overrate bench play during the playoffs, in reality you only play 2-3 guys decent minutes. For example in 2002 our main guys were Fish and Rob playing a lot more than others.
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:21 am
I aint even mad!!
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:39 am
given the personnel I think the roster's set to go. I'm campaigning for Pietrus or Barbosa but I'm not complaining also. just because the bench doesn't have household names in some positions doesn't make it weak or useless. Lakers actually have a very solid 4/5 rotation with Gasol, Hill, Jamison, Howard. Kobe and Ebanks and MWP can even play 2/3, MWP and Clark 4/5, or MWP Jamison 3/4, GLock, Morris and Meeks 1/2. combinations are "endless".
the challenge here is how Mike Brown will manage the rotation. it's a lot harder to manage minutes having players that can effectively play at different positions.
the challenge here is how Mike Brown will manage the rotation. it's a lot harder to manage minutes having players that can effectively play at different positions.
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:56 am
This is something I've never understood. . . All this talk about the Lakers' lack of depth.
Who does Oklahoma City have coming off that bench? Let''s assume James Harden is a starter in the scenario. That leaves Nick Collison, Daequan Cook, Eric Maynor, Daniel Orton, and Thabo Sefolosha. How is that better than what the Lakers have? I'd take Jordan Hill over Nick Collison; I'd take Jodie Meeks over Daequan Cook; I'd also take Antawn Jamison over Daniel Orton (or Perry Jones III). That leaves Eric Maynor, who's coming off an ACL injury, and Thabo Sefolosha.
Am I missing something, here?
EDIT: However, Miami is much deeper than us, provided their bench is healthy. You have Battier, Miller, Allen, along with Haslem. This isn't a bad thing, though. All of those players are wing players, and anyone keeping Wade and LeBron off the floor can't be a bad thing. They have an oversaturation in perimeter players, and no front court depth-- It'll be interesting seeing how all of those minutes are distributed.
Who does Oklahoma City have coming off that bench? Let''s assume James Harden is a starter in the scenario. That leaves Nick Collison, Daequan Cook, Eric Maynor, Daniel Orton, and Thabo Sefolosha. How is that better than what the Lakers have? I'd take Jordan Hill over Nick Collison; I'd take Jodie Meeks over Daequan Cook; I'd also take Antawn Jamison over Daniel Orton (or Perry Jones III). That leaves Eric Maynor, who's coming off an ACL injury, and Thabo Sefolosha.
Am I missing something, here?
EDIT: However, Miami is much deeper than us, provided their bench is healthy. You have Battier, Miller, Allen, along with Haslem. This isn't a bad thing, though. All of those players are wing players, and anyone keeping Wade and LeBron off the floor can't be a bad thing. They have an oversaturation in perimeter players, and no front court depth-- It'll be interesting seeing how all of those minutes are distributed.
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:25 pm
The last thing wrong with last year's Lakers was the bench. Of course it could have been better but in reality it wasnt the deciding factor in them getting roasted by OKC and nearly beaten by the Nuggets.
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:31 pm
lol. this no bench thing is getting annoying and overrated in the nba. whenever you have someone criticizing the lakers or picking OKC over the lakers, they always say "its because they don't have a bench"...can you tell me something new? its how you use and maximize your player is what's important. our bench was pretty mediocre in 08-10 but phil did a good job maximizing their talent.
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:36 pm
not only are we making it to the damn finals, we're winning it mr. robert horry
Re: Horry: "Lakers won't make Finals"
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:16 am
EnigmaticProblem wrote:This is something I've never understood. . . All this talk about the Lakers' lack of depth.
Who does Oklahoma City have coming off that bench? Let''s assume James Harden is a starter in the scenario. That leaves Nick Collison, Daequan Cook, Eric Maynor, Daniel Orton, and Thabo Sefolosha. How is that better than what the Lakers have? I'd take Jordan Hill over Nick Collison; I'd take Jodie Meeks over Daequan Cook; I'd also take Antawn Jamison over Daniel Orton (or Perry Jones III). That leaves Eric Maynor, who's coming off an ACL injury, and Thabo Sefolosha.
Am I missing something, here?
EDIT: However, Miami is much deeper than us, provided their bench is healthy. You have Battier, Miller, Allen, along with Haslem. This isn't a bad thing, though. All of those players are wing players, and anyone keeping Wade and LeBron off the floor can't be a bad thing. They have an oversaturation in perimeter players, and no front court depth-- It'll be interesting seeing how all of those minutes are distributed.
You're missing something for sure. James Harden is NOT a starter. Why would you assume it that he is. It's like when we placed Odom on our bench, we had a decent bench. Thabo Selfolosha is wonderful off the bench. All-NBA Defensive Second Team in 2010. That alone makes him more valuable than everybody on our bench.