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Post#121 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:32 am by anarchy24

I'd hold on to Pau for this season. He becomes a huge expiring deal next year. So I would wait to see what becomes available till then.
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Post#122 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:41 am by Kilroy

Also, I'd say 'had internal discussions' kinda makes it sound like a dead-deal. I'd say if we're hearing about it like this, it ain't happening.

We have time until the deadline to see how D'Antoni works with this team, and make changes accordingly, later...

But I agree... Pau doesn't suck so bad that he has to be moved now... Wait until the off-season when his value as an expiring goes up... As the belts with the new CBA rules start tightening even more, I would bet this expiring will be even more valuable that we'd expect.
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Post#123 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:03 pm by Jajwanda

One discussion we haven't had about Pau is in two years does he retire? He may simply say I'm only about 33-34. My game is still very good at the C position. Why not sign him for 2/14m as Dwight's 14mpg backup C. He retires loved by Laker fans again.
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Post#124 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:36 pm by Michael Lucky

Considering how much he loves being here it wouldn't shock me but who knows, that's still two years away. There's a decent chance he gets traded next year anyways.
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Post#125 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:40 pm by DEEP3CL

It's easy to sit there and say or predict what the Lakers may or may not do with Pau. But this much is evident, if the Lakers are planning on this 2014 plan as many believe they are they're not trading Pau. Business wise I can't see them blowing up a projected $60 mil in cap space to trade for a guy who's going to want half of that.
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Post#126 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:02 pm by GAME TIME

I been pondering about this. I think I would rather keep Gasol over Smith. Having 2 back to the basket players separates us from the OKC's and Miami of the world. I want to have the assurance of having a low post threat in our half court game when Howard gets in early foul trouble. I think we could be more versatile, playing fast or slow it down if we have too.

I trust in Laker FO though, if they do make the deal, then I'm down, because they would know more than I do.
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Post#127 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:14 pm by kblo247

DEEP3CL wrote:It's easy to sit there and say or predict what the Lakers may or may not do with Pau. But this much is evident, if the Lakers are planning on this 2014 plan as many believe they are they're not trading Pau. Business wise I can't see them blowing up a projected $60 mil in cap space to trade for a guy who's going to want half of that.

Only way I believe they trade Pau is if is for a guy like Love or whoever before the deal expires, giving Minny an extra year rental of Pau, and stopping Love from walking for oohing. Basically Bynum andDwight over again, except Pau would suit up

Now granted they may do Josh Smith for Pau, if they deem Josh worthy of near max after watching him this year. I would not object to it actually.

The only Laker deal I would be pissed at is Amare for Pau if it happened when Amare returns
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Post#128 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:28 pm by Compton310

new york get pau - lakers get josh smith - atlanta get amare stoudemire...... got this from the atlanta board i can see this happening
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Post#129 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:36 pm by DEEP3CL

Compton310 wrote:new york get pau - lakers get josh smith - atlanta get amare stoudemire...... got this from the atlanta board i can see this happening
That deal works for NY,LA but not Atlanta. They need a center so Horford can go back to his true position of PF. If Danny Ferry fell for that deal he needs his ass shipped out.
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Post#130 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:02 pm by kblo247

Amare does statistically play better at C than PF for his career in both Phoenix and NY. It would be a sell some tickets move for Atlanta which should never be overlooked as they have had struggles there more than most perennial playoff teams, a better defense and make sure Dwight signs move for LA, and a perfect skill set fit for Melo/Pau/Tyson in NY
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Post#131 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:15 pm by uga_dawgs24

kblo247 wrote:Amare does statistically play better at C than PF for his career in both Phoenix and NY. It would be a sell some tickets move for Atlanta which should never be overlooked as they have had struggles there more than most perennial playoff teams, a better defense and make sure Dwight signs move for LA, and a perfect skill set fit for Melo/Pau/Tyson in NY


Doubt trading the hometown boy for Amare would do much to sell tickets.
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Post#132 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:47 pm by picc

This would be a mistake. Never got the love for Smith, he's not that good a player. For what we will be trying to accomplish Pau is the better player for our team this year.
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Post#133 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:03 am by Stebo_SSK

Compton310 wrote:new york get pau - lakers get josh smith - atlanta get amare stoudemire...... got this from the atlanta board i can see this happening


This trade would suck royally for everyone but NYK. Hell Pau would probably put them where they need to be.
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Post#134 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:23 am by LApwnd

maybe its Atl offense, but man is Smith offensive game ugly when he's not dunking.
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Post#135 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:39 pm by Stebo_SSK

LApwnd wrote:maybe its Atl offense, but man is Smith offensive game ugly when he's not dunking.


Nah its him. The dude just isnt very good skill wise. Look at his usage compared to his overall production. This dude has a usage that is almost at Kobe's level right now but isnt even outproducing Pau or Dwight but guys think playing in LA is going to magically make guys better?
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Post#136 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:07 pm by loveshaq786

Lakers out: Pau Gasol, Duhon, 2nd round pick, and Steve Blake
Lakers in: Josh Smith and Iman Shupert

Atlanta out: Josh Smith and Devin Harris
Atlanta in: Amare, Duhon, and 2 second round picks

New York in: Pau Gasol and Steve Blake
New York out: Amare, 2nd round pick, and Iman

Ney york becomes freaking awesome.... We get more athletic (with a large expiring contract in Josh Smith), and get rid of Blake and Duhon...Atlanta gets their Center
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Post#137 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:54 pm by LApwnd

^^^hope you dont post that in the trade idea forum, you're going to get :lol: so hard by any non-laker fans.
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Post#138 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:07 pm by Gek

Kilroy wrote:Also, I'd say 'had internal discussions' kinda makes it sound like a dead-deal. I'd say if we're hearing about it like this, it ain't happening.

We have time until the deadline to see how D'Antoni works with this team, and make changes accordingly, later...

But I agree... Pau doesn't suck so bad that he has to be moved now... Wait until the off-season when his value as an expiring goes up... As the belts with the new CBA rules start tightening even more, I would bet this expiring will be even more valuable that we'd expect.


We'll use Pau to save ourselves money.
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Post#139 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:52 pm by Kilroy

Gek wrote:
Kilroy wrote:Also, I'd say 'had internal discussions' kinda makes it sound like a dead-deal. I'd say if we're hearing about it like this, it ain't happening.

We have time until the deadline to see how D'Antoni works with this team, and make changes accordingly, later...

But I agree... Pau doesn't suck so bad that he has to be moved now... Wait until the off-season when his value as an expiring goes up... As the belts with the new CBA rules start tightening even more, I would bet this expiring will be even more valuable that we'd expect.


We'll use Pau to save ourselves money.


Yes, my premise was that we don't want to trade Pau for a single player of equal value, but rather to try to address multiple issues. It may not save us money immediately but would provide us more flexibility while still making us better.
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Post#140 Re: WT:Lakers have had internal discussions a
Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:40 pm by Stebo_SSK

LApwnd wrote:^^^hope you dont post that in the trade idea forum, you're going to get :lol: so hard by any non-laker fans.


Hell he should get laughed at by any Laker fans.
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