Sn0wman wrote:Fire him and hire who? Lakers would be paying Mr.Potato head, Pringles and the 3rd coach, wow...
Well, whoever it is the potato meme obviously isn't working. So we should try another vegetable.
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Sn0wman wrote:Fire him and hire who? Lakers would be paying Mr.Potato head, Pringles and the 3rd coach, wow...
Gek wrote:There really isn't any reason why old NBA players can't run and gun. Ridiculous athleticism is not required, conditioning and comfortability is.
dockingsched wrote:the lakers' problems are so beyond a coach right now its funny but sad how us as fans think phil jackson is the answer to the problems.
the problem is the players. they play uninspired, lazy, overconfident, and selfish. people like to put on their blinders but the last season phil was here where he himself was totally checked out, the lakers played just like this. not as bad obviously, but totally uninspired none the less. we want to forget how the mavs completely annihilated the lakers and forced them to resort to cheap shots? we want to forget how in the playoffs even phil couldn't do jack to inspire these guys (screaming at players, grabbing pau by the jersey).
i'm not going to single out any one player, but its on the players to play for each other and play as a team. i'm honestly hopefully someone like steve nash can help bring this team together with his style of play. some people have taken the stance that believing in nash is laughable, whatever though, i believe in nash more than any other player on this team, sue me.
Rischardo wrote:Hey guys, I'm a college basketball coach here in Chile, obviously I'm not at an NBA coach level, but I can surely say this:
1.- This team doesn't play TEAM basketball on offense. They just stand around waiting for Kobe or Dwight to create something. For what I've seen they have like 4 or 5 different plays, and they just don't execute them (not sound screening, little timing...), nor use those plays in a regular basis. Sure Kobe is dominant, sure Dwight's dominant, but a TEAM game has got to be played as a TEAM and not just iso plays for your best players, sure it helps, but NOT on 80% of the team's midcourt possesions. This team is so predictable on offense it's amazing. Scouting reports on the Lakers have got to be the easiest thing to do.
2.- This team doesn't play defense. It's obvious some of the players are bad defensive players, but even so, with a good defensive TEAM scheme some of this bad defensive players could hold their own in a regular basis. Sure there would be times when they get beat off the dribble, but with a solid scheme, you got the best defensive center in the league, so... Also, you see that;
- on off the ball screens, they're just inconsistent in WHAT to do, that's just poor coaching. How's possible that professional players, do not know if they gonna swith or if they gonna follow, or something. They just change the way they play this screens EVERY game I've seen so far.
- on Pick and Roll defense, rotations are just PLAIN AWFUL. They don't KNOW what to do on P&R situations. Again, that's without a doubt BAD coaching. P&R's got to be the most used play in basketball around the whole world, even high school players are constantly defending and attacking this play. It's just unacceptable, that this coach cannot teach proper rotations. Yesterday, for example, Dwight guarding Varejao, who screens for Irving. Howard doubles on the P&R, and Hill (who's a high energy, good defense type of guy), just stood there guarding his man, don't KNOWING that he had to rotate over Varejao to help Dwight. Obviously in that exact moment, Jordan made the mistake, but the Lakers get beat in P&R situations almost every game in a regular basis, so it's not only Jordan's fault and that makes me think of plain BAD coaching.
Finally; my question to D'Antoni is: if you don't teach defense, neither teach offense, than what type of a coach are you??
My answer would be; a JOKE of a coach...
Michael Lucky wrote:I love how people are still blame the D'Antoni hire on Jim Buss.
Jimbacosystem wrote:I don't think anyone is blaming Jim.... just stating facts... did Dr. Buss conduct all the phone interviews with Mike D? Everyone involved including Mitch and Jim said they took the idea of hiring Mike D to Jerry AFTER ALL THE PHONE INTERVIEWS so to say at a minimum it wasn't Jim or Mitch driving the bus is nonsensical...
If you believe the bs of the three headed decision making process you must at least acknowledge that the candidates are narrowed down by a minimum of Jim and Mitch...
I think what most people are concerned about when it comes to Jimbaco is the post Jerry era... at that point there will be absolutely NO ONE he has to consulate with on decisions... he will be the final decision maker
If you are comfortable with that fine... i doubt others are...
dockingsched wrote:the lakers' problems are so beyond a coach right now its funny but sad how us as fans think phil jackson is the answer to the problems.
the problem is the players. they play uninspired, lazy, overconfident, and selfish. people like to put on their blinders but the last season phil was here where he himself was totally checked out, the lakers played just like this. not as bad obviously, but totally uninspired none the less. we want to forget how the mavs completely annihilated the lakers and forced them to resort to cheap shots? we want to forget how in the playoffs even phil couldn't do jack to inspire these guys (screaming at players, grabbing pau by the jersey).
dockingsched wrote:i'm not going to single out any one player, but its on the players to play for each other and play as a team. i'm honestly hopefully someone like steve nash can help bring this team together with his style of play. some people have taken the stance that believing in nash is laughable, whatever though, i believe in nash more than any other player on this team, sue me.
madmaxmedia wrote:I highly doubt Jim was significantly involved at all during the search/interview process.
To me the only realistic question here is how much of the decision was Jerry and how much was Mitch (my guess is some combination of both, whether it was 50/50 or 70/30, etc.)Jimbacosystem wrote:I don't think anyone is blaming Jim.... just stating facts... did Dr. Buss conduct all the phone interviews with Mike D? Everyone involved including Mitch and Jim said they took the idea of hiring Mike D to Jerry AFTER ALL THE PHONE INTERVIEWS so to say at a minimum it wasn't Jim or Mitch driving the bus is nonsensical...
If you believe the bs of the three headed decision making process you must at least acknowledge that the candidates are narrowed down by a minimum of Jim and Mitch...
I think what most people are concerned about when it comes to Jimbaco is the post Jerry era... at that point there will be absolutely NO ONE he has to consulate with on decisions... he will be the final decision maker
If you are comfortable with that fine... i doubt others are...
Kilroy wrote:Jim's involved more because his dad is older and can't carry all the Ownership load... So he was definitely more involved in the interview process than Jerry.
The issue is whether or not Jerry had any veto power over the decision to hire Phil... Which it seems like he exercised.
It doesn't really matter... It's impossible to blame all our issues on any one person in our organization.
Michael Lucky wrote:The reports are that Jerry Pushed for D'Antoni because he wanted showtime back. I'm surprised people forgot about that.