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Post#521 » by kblo247 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:03 am

I wish we had Matt too. He would have helped greatly out there as the 3 with Ron at 4 and Kobe/Meeks in the back court.

About the rebounding, Kobe and Metta had 17 between them and 50 points, I'm not sure how much more anyone can ask of those two
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Post#522 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:04 am

Ikon wrote:The Lakers starters are going to be tired tomorrow and lose to the Wizards.


I doubt it. Jordan Crawford is Washington's PG. Beal vs Kobe could get ugly. Okafor scored something like 19 last game, which means he will probably only score 2 tomorrow night.

The Lakers look bad but they still should beat the Wizards. They will practically be the home team in DC.
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Post#523 » by kblo247 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:05 am

Wizards also beat th eHeat, it ain't far fetched to say the youth can and will get geeked up to play Kobe like Miamis 3
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Post#524 » by Rose2Bogans » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:05 am

Dwight will take over tomorrow. Nene and Okafor won't stop him.
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Post#525 » by Optms » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:07 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Ikon wrote:The Lakers starters are going to be tired tomorrow and lose to the Wizards.


I doubt it. Jordan Crawford is Washington's PG. Beal vs Kobe could get ugly. Okafor scored something like 19 last game, which means he will probably only score 2 tomorrow night.

The Lakers look bad but they still should be the Wizards. They will practically be the home team in DC.


Lakers are off a back to back though and Kobe is coming off 44 minutes. The way I see it, if the Wizards run, this team won't put much of an effort. The on going locomotive suckery of the Lakers versus the unstoppable suckery of the Wizards. Should be epic. Maybe they both lose.
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Post#526 » by kblo247 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:08 am

Hacks. Howard will though ask guys will stop throwing it to his ass if he bricks too many free throws
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Post#527 » by Kilroy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:10 am

What's going on is that outside of Dwight/Pau/Kobe/Nash, our team just isn't very good... And outside of Dwight and Hill, we have no defensive presence at all.

What's going on is that we don't have the personnel to run D'Antoni's system, and we don't have the personnel to run a system like the Triangle anymore either. And we can't change coaches anyway...

We need Pau and Nash to come back on fire and stay that way for the rest of the season if we have any hope of the post season. We also need to trade some dead weight for some athleticism and quickness, if we want to have a shot at a title.

As much as it sounds like a cliche, we have no choice but to pin our hopes on Nash and to maybe an equal extent Pau.

If that doesn't work, we're going to have to trade Pau and likely write off this season, because trading pau just isn't going to bring back enough fire-power.
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Post#528 » by kblo247 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:12 am

Kilroy wrote:What's going on is that outside of Dwight/Pau/Kobe/Nash, our team just isn't very good... And outside of Dwight and Hill, we have no defensive presence at all.

What's going on is that we don't have the personnel to run D'Antoni's system, and we don't have the personnel to run a system like the Triangle anymore either. And we can't change coaches anyway...

We need Pau and Nash to come back on fire and stay that way for the rest of the season if we have any hope of the post season. We also need to trade some dead weight for some athleticism and quickness, if we want to have a shot at a title.

As much as it sounds like a cliche, we have no choice but to pin our hopes on Nash and to maybe an equal extent Pau.

If that doesn't work, we're going to have to trade Pau and likely write off this season, because trading pau just isn't going to bring back enough fire-power.

Give Metta credit, he's been our third best Palmer easily this year, and is being grossly over ran. Guys averaging 36 minutes a night, basically three quarters of ball and posting good numbers scoring, on the glass, and from 3. He like Kobe has to pace himself though because they are just being grossly over played
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Post#529 » by timdunkit » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:13 am

^^ the problem right now is that there not even competing till the second half by then its too late. There have been too many games like that. D'antoni needs to slow the pace down and use his PnR genius to get something going rather then trying to increase the pace. The Lakers are terrible at causing TOVs , so its not like we'd get a ton of opportunities on the open break.

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Post#530 » by Rose2Bogans » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:14 am

Kilroy wrote:What's going on is that outside of Dwight/Pau/Kobe/Nash, our team just isn't very good... And outside of Dwight and Hill, we have no defensive presence at all.

What's going on is that we don't have the personnel to run D'Antoni's system, and we don't have the personnel to run a system like the Triangle anymore either. And we can't change coaches anyway...

We need Pau and Nash to come back on fire and stay that way for the rest of the season if we have any hope of the post season. We also need to trade some dead weight for some athleticism and quickness, if we want to have a shot at a title.

As much as it sounds like a cliche, we have no choice but to pin our hopes on Nash and to maybe an equal extent Pau.

If that doesn't work, we're going to have to trade Pau and likely write off this season, because trading pau just isn't going to bring back enough fire-power.


Do you think D'Antoni will change up his scheme like everyone keeps assuming he'll do, or is he too stubborn?
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Post#531 » by kblo247 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:16 am

Pau for Granger is the deal that I would hope for especially its Dantoni. MWP can start at 4 ala Anthony Mason or Tim Thomas or Keith Van Horn on this team, and Granger could provide the athleticism we need on the perimeter.

I'm leaning more and more toward that type of deal and signing Delonte/Kenyon

AK is another example of a guy we could get and mix with Nash, Metta, Kobe, and Dwight. But it gets tricky. I like Willaims potential, Ridnour fits a role, but Pwk would need to come over, and we would need a immediate redirect ready for another need
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Post#532 » by QueenzAllDay » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:19 am

D'Antoni will NOT change a damn thing about his system. Which is why we were GLAD he quit when he did.

I have no idea what will make him change now. When Steve Nash comes back I think you guys will be fine. Defensively, as you guys showed in the 4th, you can buckle down when you want to.

Oh yeah, the switching on screens? Typical D'Antoni lol.
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Post#533 » by Kilroy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:20 am

kblo247 wrote:Give Metta credit, he's been our third best Palmer easily this year, and is being grossly over ran. Guys averaging 36 minutes a night, basically three quarters of ball and posting good numbers scoring, on the glass, and from 3. He like Kobe has to pace himself though because they are just being grossly over played


I was giving him credit... I wasn't singling him out...
I'm not the biggest MWP fan in the world...
To me, he's a defensive specialist who specializes in offense...

It's fun to see him hit some open 3's from time to time, but we need that hard-nosed presence he gave us the first couple seasons.

For every brilliant game he gives us, and he does give us some still, he'll come back with 2 or three that make you want to scrub your eyes out with rock salt.
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Post#534 » by Mamba Mentality » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:20 am

kblo247 wrote:Pau for Granger is the deal that I would hope for especially its Dantoni. MWP can start at 4 ala Anthony Mason or Tim Thomas or Keith Van Horn on this team, and Granger could provide the athleticism we need on the perimeter.

I'm leaning more and more toward that type of deal and signing Delonte/Kenyon

AK is another example of a guy we could get and mix with Nash, Metta, Kobe, and Dwight. But it gets tricky. I like Willaims potential, Ridnour fits a role, but Pwk would need to come over, and we would need a immediate redirect ready for another need


And what makes you think the Pacers would even consider that? They already have plenty of frontcourt depth. Pau's trade value at this point is at the Bargnani level and that's best case scenario.
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Post#535 » by Gek » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:20 am

kobeaki wrote:Might as well have kept Bynum... I told y'all they were , at the end of the day, lateral. Except we weren't renting drew...

Yay , conventional wisdom.

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Post#536 » by Cashin out » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:22 am

kblo247 wrote:Pau for Granger is the deal that I would hope for especially its Dantoni. MWP can start at 4 ala Anthony Mason or Tim Thomas or Keith Van Horn on this team, and Granger could provide the athleticism we need on the perimeter.

I'm leaning more and more toward that type of deal and signing Delonte/Kenyon

AK is another example of a guy we could get and mix with Nash, Metta, Kobe, and Dwight. But it gets tricky. I like Willaims potential, Ridnour fits a role, but Pwk would need to come over, and we would need a immediate redirect ready for another need

Agree 100%

This is the type of deal we need to make,Metta is just too slow to play sf now,we need guys who can spread the floor for D12.Miami/NY/SA all have that type of team with a undersized strech pf.

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Post#537 » by Jaykoolzboy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:23 am

I am asking all posters to remove that "Oh Yes It Does" Sig, I think it's silly and that Sig jinxed this team so far.
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Post#538 » by kblo247 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:23 am

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kblo247 wrote:Give Metta credit, he's been our third best Palmer easily this year, and is being grossly over ran. Guys averaging 36 minutes a night, basically three quarters of ball and posting good numbers scoring, on the glass, and from 3. He like Kobe has to pace himself though because they are just being grossly over played


I was giving him credit... I wasn't singling him out...
I'm not the biggest MWP fan in the world...
To me, he's a defensive specialist who specializes in offense...

It's fun to see him hit some open 3's from time to time, but we need that hard-nosed presence he gave us the first couple seasons.

For every brilliant game he gives us, and he does give us some still, he'll come back with 2 or three that make you want to scrub your eyes out with rock salt.

This year? Metta has been the third most consistent guy on the team this year and showed more than Nash did when we saw him in the preseason and his limited action, as well as Pau.

He's played big minutes and his production has been good all year. He just can't focus on D like he or we want when he's playing 36 minutes a game, and is our most consistent outside shooter in the rotation. I don't get the scrub your eyes out part, when this is his best statistical year in his Laker career quite easily
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Post#539 » by Kilroy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:24 am

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Kilroy wrote:What's going on is that outside of Dwight/Pau/Kobe/Nash, our team just isn't very good... And outside of Dwight and Hill, we have no defensive presence at all.

What's going on is that we don't have the personnel to run D'Antoni's system, and we don't have the personnel to run a system like the Triangle anymore either. And we can't change coaches anyway...

We need Pau and Nash to come back on fire and stay that way for the rest of the season if we have any hope of the post season. We also need to trade some dead weight for some athleticism and quickness, if we want to have a shot at a title.

As much as it sounds like a cliche, we have no choice but to pin our hopes on Nash and to maybe an equal extent Pau.

If that doesn't work, we're going to have to trade Pau and likely write off this season, because trading pau just isn't going to bring back enough fire-power.


Do you think D'Antoni will change up his scheme like everyone keeps assuming he'll do, or is he too stubborn?


I certainly hope so... He really only needs to do one thing, and that's to figure out how to get Pau where he needs to be on the floor to be comfortable and effective... Without bumping Dwight out of his comfort zone...

Everything else will fall into place if he can do that... Granted, it's something no coach we've had has figured out yet... Including Phil.

But I have a feeling if when Nash and Pau do come back, he doesn't make some adjustments, Kobe may go full-choke-a-bitch mode... He seems convinced it will happen... I'd hate to be D'Antoni if it doesn't.
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Post#540 » by Anklebreaker702 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:24 am

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kobeaki wrote:Might as well have kept Bynum... I told y'all they were , at the end of the day, lateral. Except we weren't renting drew...

Yay , conventional wisdom.


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Lol Bynum hasnt even reported to work yet. How could this post even be made? At least wait until he reports to work Lololololololol
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