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Post#61 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Wed Jan 2, 2013 11:40 pm by GeneralNash

I understand what he's trying to do, but I don't think it's a good idea to reiterate negatives about the team. Age isn't the biggest factor with last game's loss...it's just a bad convenient excuse.

2012-2013 Average Laker Age: 28.5yrs

2008 Boston Celtics Championship team Average Age: 28.8yrs
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Post#62 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Wed Jan 2, 2013 11:42 pm by PandGneverfold

People make me laugh. We call our players old and slow but when Kobe does it he's wrong. Smh
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Post#63 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Wed Jan 2, 2013 11:49 pm by TyCobb

Amnesty!
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Post#64 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 12:12 am by Beard

I know the amnesty comment was a joke and it would be really stupid for the Lakers.

However, as Kobe ages, I don't see a lot of players excited to play with the guy. Let's say hypothetically that Kobe gets injured for a month and Nash/Gasol/Howard trio win fifteen straight without him - do the Lakers even think about trading Kobe? Or is it pretty much set in stone he retires with LA?
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Post#65 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 12:19 am by Slava

Beard wrote: Let's say hypothetically that Kobe gets injured for a month and Nash/Gasol/Howard trio win fifteen straight without him - do the Lakers even think about trading Kobe?


If pigs fly out of your ass and Toronto wins the NBA finals, do we still have this conversation? Hypothetically....

The only reason we still won 15 games is because of Kobe.
g105rick wrote:LA needs changes. That means benching Kobe into a lesser role or let him retire if he has another season ending injury. Why wait another 2 losing seasons? That's extremely selfish to guys like Nash, Boozer, and others

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Post#66 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 12:29 am by Rox_Nix_Nox

mentally weak people ugh
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Post#67 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 12:29 am by Beard

Okay so you won't answer the question then?
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Post#68 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 12:36 am by dockingsched

the answer is obviously no
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Post#69 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 12:39 am by Beard

I guess I would question then how the Lakers hope to compete from now until Kobe's retirement. Unless they're okay with 1st or 2nd round bounces for a few years prior to the rebuild. This is the Lakers, for crying out loud. They can have any free agent they want if they're willing to give him the keys.
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Post#70 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 12:52 am by Dr Aki

hungry vets the lakers are not.

except nash, he's awfully hungry
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Post#71 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 1:03 am by loveshaq786

The team us not playing to expectations and media wants answers. What do you expect him to say?

Our record is a lie, we were never really defeated and we are excelling as a team.... :roll:
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Post#72 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 1:05 am by Desiderium

5 rings

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Post#73 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 1:20 am by Dr Aki

hire derek fisher as ass. coach
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Post#74 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 1:20 am by LA_Sports

Whether you like what he said or not, this has always been the way Kobe is. Players know he will talk like before they join the team. It doesn't matter if it is good for team morale, this is the way it will be for the next two years.
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Post#75 Re: What Exactly Is The Issue?
Thu Jan 3, 2013 2:06 am by stillflossin

What ever happened to the 'Horns' set with Dwight Pau Metta Kobe Nash? It was virtually unstoppable versus golden state down the stretch and I'm not sure they ran it once against philly? I hope they aren't 'saving it' because they ain't got time for saving things.
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Post#76 Re: What Exactly Is The Issue?
Thu Jan 3, 2013 2:25 am by Speedlot

I don't get why people are blaming kobe's offense. That's the dumbest thing I've heard of so far this season. His defense is full of fail though. And that's where it stands to be honest. I don't blame kobe's defense for the team sucking though. Cus there are bigger things. But sure, if Kobe could improve then yeah. His defense sucks, must get better. As for Gasol to improve... A book can be written about that. And the blame should really be shifted to Howard more. His defense is a godsend sure, compared to bynum. But really he doesn't fit at all in the offense right now. And he seem to forgot how to play a double team like bynum last year.
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Post#77 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 2:33 am by classic_magic

atleat he is honest
kobe and gasol both are old and dhoward cant run like before
so they should not play this way and its big mistake they hired mike
other old teams they dont run too much and they give rest to the players
we like it or not but the team is going no where with this style
There's some folks, that, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
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Post#78 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 2:44 am by JustAwesome

PandGneverfold wrote:People make me laugh. We call our players old and slow but when Kobe does it he's wrong. Smh


Bryant has more of an audience than we do.
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Post#79 Re: Kobe failing as a leader and destroying L
Thu Jan 3, 2013 2:49 am by GeneralNash

I just wonder if his leadership style is doing more damage than good. It is good to see he wants to push Dwight to the next level:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zjxD3MJI61Y[/youtube]

Average Celtics during their 2008 championship run were older than this team, and they were not being called old and slow....they were probably remembered as being tough, and passionate. Lakers identity is quickly becoming "old and slow" and that is not a good thing.

The reality is they don't seem to have the passion to win. That is why when they come out in the 1st quarter a lot of times this season, they get off to slow starts.
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Post#80 Re: What Exactly Is The Issue?
Thu Jan 3, 2013 3:14 am by laduane1

No team wants Pau's over paid contract. Maybe a year from now. No team wants to help the Lakers. No teams are that stupid...Again.
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