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Re: Not Many Trade Options for our Lakers Mitch says

Postby Jajwanda on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:41 pm

He put up great numbers at C yesterday. Centers that put up the kind of numbers that he does aren't easy to come by.

He's a 20/10 guy at C who next to an athletic PF can give you good enough defense (Jamison was guarding the PF yesterday which hurt rotations).

If he were on any other team REALGM would be going nuts about his value.
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Re: Not Many Trade Options for our Lakers Mitch says

Postby Run-MKE 311 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:48 pm

Mitch is damn good at this, he is not going to show his hand. He is correct that there is a not a lot of room to be active in the trade market, but we all know that he wants to do something with Pau. I would be shocked if something does not happy to shake things up.

I am not asking for a reaction based freak out, but Pau has needed to go for a while now and his value sinks each day. Mitch has weaved magic in the past, the Lakers certainly need it again now.

The season has been a complete disaster, I understand injuries hurt, but this team as currently constructed, is not going to win a damn thing.
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Re: Not Many Trade Options for our Lakers Mitch says

Postby old rem on Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:17 pm

leeprettyp wrote:http://www.dailybreeze.com/portal/sports/ci_22391170/lakers-notebook-pau-gasol-optimistic-about-playing-tonight?_loopback=1

"We don't have many options," Kupchak said Wednesday at the Lakers All-Access event at Staples Center, hosted by the LA Sports & Entertainment Commission. "It's not like we're going to be active or overly active in the trade market."




In your opinion is this Pau Gasol, "trade him or not trade him" drama becoming to much of a detriment for this team to overcome? Its been like this ever since the 2011 playoffs when Pau totally disappeared (rumors say over a girl but nothing was ever set in stone). You could even argue the 2010 playoffs when Pau was AWFUL every single road game almost besides the Utah Jazz series.

Me personally I've gotten to the point where I realize the guy has lost 2 steps (not 1 yes 2) and we have to move him. I think the biggest issue with the team now (beside defense of course) has been chemistry. It only makes sense to move him for a package of role players (athletic, shooters, and a speedy PG) so we can add more depth to the team and spread the court for Nash,Kobe, and Dwight. Watching every game this year teams are just telling there PF to run as soon as they secure the rebound and then they throw that lead pass while Pau is 2 steps behind his man. With this coaching hire and also with us already having the best big in the NBA in Dwight finishing at the rim we know Pau isnt gonna be the focal point in the post anymore and is expendable.

Trust this is coming from a guy that has been a Pau apologist for years. But the guy cant even hold post position against these undersized PF's. Gets killed on the Pick n roll defense. Doesn't seem comfortable taking that open jumper at the top of the key so other teams dont even honor him. He's a backup Center at best on this team and at 17mill a season I think it be better for both parties to move on. We've used Pau as the scapegoat for to long but I cant watch another minute of a playoff series against OKC where Serge Ibaka is cheating off of him to help over on Dwight in the paint because Pau isnt knocking down that open jumper. We got Clark and Jamison at this point to handle the PF position. I wouldnt mind us bringing in Kmart and/or Delonte West also (Morris is so out of control 80% of the time to me)


Just my opinion...Thoughts fellas?


Yeah..with Pau pouting..scoring 12+, slacking on D and about to be near $20 mill next year..including trade kicker...the Lakers will find it a challenge to just find a taker...even if LAL just gets back fillers. There might be 4-5 teams LAL can find ANYTHING with..and none of those deals will give LAL anything they really want. Meanwhile, Artest can't be traded for a warm beer and Kobe pretty much can't be traded. None of the bench guys adds up to much. The one who might have some worth...Hill....is hurt for the year.

The Lakers seemed sure to keep Dwight...but...that's not so certain when the Lakers ain't as good as Houston, Portland. The Lakers big plan...backfired. I assume they intend to rebuild around Dwight but it may be only once the old guys expire and go that they begin
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Re: Not Many Trade Options for our Lakers Mitch says

Postby leeprettyp on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:06 pm

Run-MKE 311 wrote:Mitch is damn good at this, he is not going to show his hand. He is correct that there is a not a lot of room to be active in the trade market, but we all know that he wants to do something with Pau. I would be shocked if something does not happy to shake things up.

I am not asking for a reaction based freak out, but Pau has needed to go for a while now and his value sinks each day. Mitch has weaved magic in the past, the Lakers certainly need it again now.

The season has been a complete disaster, I understand injuries hurt, but this team as currently constructed, is not going to win a damn thing.


I agree with this. But here's my opinion, Mitch and Jim have their eyes on 2014 and 2015 class of free agents, but why put all the eggs in one basket waiting for that free agent class? We should focus on winning now. But We have the great Superstars Kobe, and Dwight... Alongside great core players in Metta, and Nash. Also great talent in Hill (i know he hurt), Clark. Now we need to fill the rest of the roster out with players that compliment their games, will rebound and play SOLID DEFENSE. Guys that wont pout when their only shooting 3-5 times in a game. This roster has to many names on it in my opinion. Pau recently has been a big culprit of that. It's not hard to see that he doesn't really like/or can get comfortable being the 3rd/4th option on this team
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Re: Not Many Trade Options for our Lakers Mitch says

Postby HiiiPOWER on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:52 pm

Jajwanda wrote:He put up great numbers at C yesterday. Centers that put up the kind of numbers that he does aren't easy to come by.

He's a 20/10 guy at C who next to an athletic PF can give you good enough defense (Jamison was guarding the PF yesterday which hurt rotations).

If he were on any other team REALGM would be going nuts about his value.


he wasn't being checked by anybody and that's 1 game
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Re: Not Many Trade Options for our Lakers Mitch says

Postby ballislife on Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:14 pm

So would the Lakers do a Calderon/Bargnani swap for Gasol? It seems like a potential fit for both sides...
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Re: Not Many Trade Options for our Lakers Mitch says

Postby Lakerfan17 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:50 am

No trades...just fire that idiot D'Antoni. Mike Brown was 100 times better than this clueless halfwit.
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If you were Mitch Kupchak

Postby Vinsanity420 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:59 am

The topic title says it all.

If you were Mitch, wow would you realistically fix this mess? Do you blow this team up completely? Rebuild around Dwight? Or is it still possible to build a title contender around this core?
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Re: If you were Mitch Kupchak

Postby Lakerfan17 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:01 am

Fire D'Antoni....there is NO EXCUSE for almost beating the Heat then turning around and losing to the Raptors and Bulls without Rose and Deng. He's just terrible.
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Re: If you were Mitch Kupchak

Postby myersia on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:05 am

Fire Pringles. Trade Dwight for young athletic defensive minded players. Start Pau at Center.
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Re: If you were Mitch Kupchak

Postby TruSkool on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:10 am

i hate to say it but i think i'd have to trade one of the 2 bigs- gasol or howard. probably gasol.

although, id look to package howard to the grizzlies for marc gasol+rudy gay. this way the gasol brothers can probably be play very well together, and rudy gay would just be a plus/filler.


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Re: If you were Mitch Kupchak

Postby myersia on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:12 am

TruSkool wrote:i hate to say it but i think i'd have to trade one of the 2 bigs- gasol or howard. probably gasol.

although, id look to package howard to the grizzlies for marc gasol+rudy gay. this way the gasol brothers can probably be play very well together, and rudy gay would just be a plus/filler.


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gasol
gasol

use mwp as a 6th man.


Interesting. I think I like it.
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Re: If you were Mitch Kupchak

Postby Lyrix on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:16 am

TruSkool wrote:i hate to say it but i think i'd have to trade one of the 2 bigs- gasol or howard. probably gasol.

although, id look to package howard to the grizzlies for marc gasol+rudy gay. this way the gasol brothers can probably be play very well together, and rudy gay would just be a plus/filler.


nash
kobe
gay
gasol
gasol

use mwp as a 6th man.


Don't forget about firing D'Antoni. That's a damn good trade though. Don't know if the Grizzlies would do it since Marc Gasol has been better than Howard this season though.
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Re: If you were Mitch Kupchak

Postby Cashin out on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:20 am

See if we can package Nash/Gasol for some younger athletes to build around Dwight/Kobe.

Something like Nash/Gasol for Jennings/Ilyasova/fillers.
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Re: If you were Mitch Kupchak

Postby DEEP3CL on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:22 am

Walk away now.....before they try to pin the fallout on him.

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