Kobe: This Ain't Working; We Need to Get Back to Basics

[lake_show]

"I just want them to go have fun," the Lakers' interim coach said before their 101-77 rout of the Golden State Warriors. "These guys have been playing basketball for a long time. Call on it. Go play.

"Try to win the game and have a little fun."

This seemed to work.

Bernie Bickerstaff, 4-1 as Lakers head coach.

Just saying.

[minifang]

Dwight Howard attempted just five shots in the Los Angeles Lakers' 95-83 loss to the Chicago Bulls on Monday.

Howard expressed his frustration with his lack of touches.

"Look at the stat sheet," Howard said. "Look at the stat sheet."

Howard also proposed a solution for the Lakers' offense.

"It's simple. Play inside-out."

Howard would not be venting his frustration if we were running the triangle. Every play is initiated in the post...

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[Michael Lucky]

Even if it was a short sample it does seem like the systems that have been forced on these guys is just making things extremely difficult on them. Bickerstaff just basically told them to play basketball and put themselves in positions that they are comfortable with. I mean our lone loss was to the spurs on a last second possession without Nash.

[Yerstem]

We misuse Kobe and Pau to promote Nash and Dwight

Are you serious? How did that happen? Kobe has shot the ball 907 times until now. This is 131 more than Westbrook, 149 more than Durant which are second and third in the list.
(http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... aders.html)

MWP has the second most FGA on the team. This alone shows there's sth wrong, right?

Here's the full list:

Player FGA
Kobe Bryant 907
Dwight Howard 397
Metta World Peace 459
Pau Gasol 317
Jodie Meeks 249
Antawn Jamison 221
Jordan Hill 155
Steve Nash 143
Darius Morris 171
Chris Duhon 108
Earl Clark 85
Devin Ebanks 65
Steve Blake 34
Robert Sacre 39
Darius Johnson-Odom 4

(http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2013.html)

[Michael Lucky]

It's always been like that with Kobe. The shot disparities weren't that much different when we won our last two titles. What makes no sense though is how much Artest is getting to shoot it. that just baffles me to no end.

[SlavaMedvedenko]

We misuse Kobe and Pau to promote Nash and Dwight

Are you serious? How did that happen? Kobe has shot the ball 907 times until now. This is 131 more than Westbrook, 149 more than Durant which are second and third in the list.
(http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... aders.html)

MWP has the second most FGA on the team. This alone shows there's sth wrong, right?

Here's the full list:

Player FGA
Kobe Bryant 907
Dwight Howard 397
Metta World Peace 459
Pau Gasol 317
Jodie Meeks 249
Antawn Jamison 221
Jordan Hill 155
Steve Nash 143
Darius Morris 171
Chris Duhon 108
Earl Clark 85
Devin Ebanks 65
Steve Blake 34
Robert Sacre 39
Darius Johnson-Odom 4

(http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2013.html)

Not saying this completely useless but MWP also played 7 more games than the next highest guy.

[Michael Lucky]

Dwight has only been out 3 games.

[tenten]

I think the problem is trying to have a system, this Lakers team would be much better without any system (on offense anyways)

[tenten]

Dwight Howard attempted just five shots in the Los Angeles Lakers' 95-83 loss to the Chicago Bulls on Monday.

Howard expressed his frustration with his lack of touches.

"Look at the stat sheet," Howard said. "Look at the stat sheet."

Howard also proposed a solution for the Lakers' offense.

"It's simple. Play inside-out."

Howard would not be venting his frustration if we were running the triangle. Every play is initiated in the post...

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Sorry Dwight,
I looked at the stat sheet, yes you only had 5 official shots, but you also have 4 turnovers and shot 4 for 8 on ft.
I wonder how much Lakers will be better if you have 10 to's and shoot 15 for 30 on ft's. I'm sorry, you're probably half as good as Shaq in his Lakers days, no where near Shaq's Orlando days.

[leeprettyp]

Lol this team is broken on so many levels its unreal. Lets just admit it fellas. The Mike D hire was bad on SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many levels. People wonder why this team stinks on defense. Lets just look at who's the coach of the team. Do you guys ever wonder why every single Mike Dantoni coached team sucks on the defensive end????? Its because when your chucking quick 3's and running pick an roll 90% of the time players get tired. Then on top of that to play only a 8man rotation makes it even worse. It is what it is the rebuild just may come in 2 years just accept it. The kobe haters will get their way because he will be gone and also Gasol. Because Jim and Jerry will never admit it that the coaching hire was a MISTAKE FROM DAY 1. It should've been Brian Shaw from the beginning and like D33P has been saying alot of this is KARMA.. The way we did Lamar Odom right after his driver killed that kid in an car accident then to trade him for a box of pringles when he was an emotional wreck. it is what it is

[ballaholick]

Dwight this crab handed **** needs to lose that **** eating grin, realise hes Tyson Chandler and be ready to catch lobs instead of posting up and getting stripped

Nash needs to know his role, stop dribbling in circles and spot up on the 3 point line like you're the rich mans Steve Kerr

Pau needs to man up and just play his game

Earl Clark and MWP are doing fine, Kobe is Kobe

and D'Antoni needs to STFU and just let the players play. its not rocket science, Kobes got 5 rings, he knows how to get it done

+10000000

[SlavaMedvedenko]

I don't even understand the criticism of pick and roll because we rarely even do that. How many times has Dwight set a solid screen for Nash to work with? I can barely remember one instance of it. Pau atleast sets a screen and rolls to the rim.

The offense is just Metta post up, Nash dribble drive, Kobe posting up with one foot on the 3 point line and Kobe dribble drive. Howard post ups once in a while and gets fouled immediately to choke on the FTs.

There is absolutely no coherence to this team.

I've seen you complain about this a few times, so I'll explain it to you. D'Antoni, Howard, and Nash, all at some point, have talked about wanting to use the "pick" as more of a "touch and go"/"flash and go" type of thing, rather than an actual pick. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that this isn't completely on Howard.

That would make sense if he atleast opts to come up for a screen. He's just looking for post ups at this time and when he does receive it he just gets stripped or fouled. He atleast used to do work in getting good low post position early on in the season and now he's become too lazy to even do that.

He's just not working hard and I refuse to believe its the injury because he was much better early in the season.

You cannot blame the play when you are not even running it the way its meant to be, Nash needs that separation to work on his passing and now he's just being closed down far too easily.

[leeprettyp]

Dwight this crab handed **** needs to lose that **** eating grin, realise hes Tyson Chandler and be ready to catch lobs instead of posting up and getting stripped

Nash needs to know his role, stop dribbling in circles and spot up on the 3 point line like you're the rich mans Steve Kerr

Pau needs to man up and just play his game

Earl Clark and MWP are doing fine, Kobe is Kobe

and D'Antoni needs to STFU and just let the players play. its not rocket science, Kobes got 5 rings, he knows how to get it done

+10000000

+50000000

[Hon-essim]

System is: Nash -> Young Guys. Rest -> Kobe. Hot Kobe -> Play Hard on D. Rebound well and get Fast Break Opportunity -> Post up Howard. Howard fails -> drop plan until several possessions -> Post up Gasol. When either Howard or Gasol makes one mistake -> get Kobe hot to fadeaway. When Kobe is not hot -> Back to Nash.

Problems with the system besides the obvious problem with D'Antoni:

Dwight fails on O, Dwight sulks on D

Gasol out of position hates not having Odom when he posts up to bail him out and tries to go Kobe on D on his man

Kobe gets hot, Kobe does not like to pass except for bail out passes that play to the motion of last season's underrated Bynum

Nash then tells everyone to slow down. Nash when slowed down plays like Dallas Nash trying to throw Jason Kidd passes. Nash then turns it over forcing Nash to run back. Nash runs back then he's more tired and sloppy running on offense and Dwight has no pity for Nash's fatigue.

Rest of the team try to figure out how to be anything but a jump shooter and a rebounder.

[Kilroy]

Dwight Howard attempted just five shots in the Los Angeles Lakers' 95-83 loss to the Chicago Bulls on Monday.

Howard expressed his frustration with his lack of touches.

"Look at the stat sheet," Howard said. "Look at the stat sheet."

Howard also proposed a solution for the Lakers' offense.

"It's simple. Play inside-out."

Howard would not be venting his frustration if we were running the triangle. Every play is initiated in the post...

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Sorry Dwight,
I looked at the stat sheet, yes you only had 5 official shots, but you also have 4 turnovers and shot 4 for 8 on ft.
I wonder how much Lakers will be better if you have 10 to's and shoot 15 for 30 on ft's. I'm sorry, you're probably half as good as Shaq in his Lakers days, no where near Shaq's Orlando days.

Also, in the third, Pau came in and focused just about all his effort on feeding Dwight from the high post... And he was pretty successful at it... But Dwight bobbled the passes, was stripped or was fouled and couldn't convert the free-throws...