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Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:47 am
by myersia
destro wrote:
myersia wrote:Also let me add this. We all will be emotional wrecks when the lakers are mediocre for the next five or so years.


I won't be. I understand no team can stay at the top throughout the whole league's existence, there's down periods for each franchise. Seemingly only the bandwagon fans refuse to comprehend this.

The only thing that could make me an emotional wreck is if we trade Howard for anything that's been proposed on this website. Brook Lopez would be enough of an emotional wreck to cause me to stop rooting for the Lakers.


:lol: Nice.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:48 am
by LLcoleJ
myersia wrote:
GAME TIME wrote:Lakers have bird rights, other teams don't, reason why Lakers won't trade him.


True. However, given his history you don't think this helps Dwight gain more leverage? In the summer he is going to demand a trade so his bird rights are traded to the Nets. Now other teams will not trade with us and know that we are desperate because Dwight can just leave us if he wants to join the Mavs or Rox. Yes that means he walks away from 30 million, but in the end we are screwed. If he walks then what do we do? Trade Pau? Trade Nash? Trade MWP? Earl will probably be gone as well.


From what I understand. Since we are over the cap we cannot sign and trade him. ( new CBA)

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:48 am
by Jetset
dockingsched wrote:
destro wrote:
dockingsched wrote:destro, there's def. a big difference in what u asserted

"He's already said he doesn't want to be traded"

and what the article says

"sources say he won't ask to be traded".


He doesn't want to be traded because he doesn't want what happened in Orlando to happen again, he also doesn't want to be traded because he wants to make his own decision at the end of the season. That's what I read a while back. Like I said before, I'll see if I can find better when I have time later. If later is too long of a wait then oh well.



y u always seemingly so defensive? be coo destro!


Because my words hit with the same force as a 300 lb lumberjack sucker punch. But it seemed like you were pushing me for answers man, I told you that's the because I can do right now. I'll try to find better when I get more time, but what I just laid out describes the Howard situation.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:49 am
by myersia
Phil XI wrote:
myersia wrote:
GAME TIME wrote:Lakers have bird rights, other teams don't, reason why Lakers won't trade him.


True. However, given his history you don't think this helps Dwight gain more leverage? In the summer he is going to demand a trade so his bird rights are traded to the Nets. Now other teams will not trade with us and know that we are desperate because Dwight can just leave us if he wants to join the Mavs or Rox. Yes that means he walks away from 30 million, but in the end we are screwed. If he walks then what do we do? Trade Pau? Trade Nash? Trade MWP? Earl will probably be gone as well.


From what I understand. Since we are over the cap we cannot sign and trade him. ( new CBA)


I am still confused about sign and trades. I thought someone had said we can still sign and trade him.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:49 am
by Muggsy Bogues
myersia wrote:
GAME TIME wrote:Lakers have bird rights, other teams don't, reason why Lakers won't trade him.


True. However, given his history you don't think this helps Dwight gain more leverage? In the summer he is going to demand a trade so his bird rights are traded to the Nets. Now other teams will not trade with us and know that we are desperate because Dwight can just leave us if he wants to join the Mavs or Rox. Yes that means he walks away from 30 million, but in the end we are screwed. If he walks then what do we do? Trade Pau? Trade Nash? Trade MWP? Earl will probably be gone as well.


You're only screwed until the 2014 offseason, at which point you've got a clean slate and can probably attract some damn good free agents to vault you back into contention again. Kowtowing to that idiot manchild isn't going to lead to anything good. Given his situation, anyone trading for him is going to do their best to rip you off.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:50 am
by Jetset
Phil XI wrote:
myersia wrote:
GAME TIME wrote:Lakers have bird rights, other teams don't, reason why Lakers won't trade him.


True. However, given his history you don't think this helps Dwight gain more leverage? In the summer he is going to demand a trade so his bird rights are traded to the Nets. Now other teams will not trade with us and know that we are desperate because Dwight can just leave us if he wants to join the Mavs or Rox. Yes that means he walks away from 30 million, but in the end we are screwed. If he walks then what do we do? Trade Pau? Trade Nash? Trade MWP? Earl will probably be gone as well.


From what I understand. Since we are over the cap we cannot sign and trade him. ( new CBA)


I believe that doesn't go into effect until the start of next season.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:54 am
by dockingsched
Phil XI wrote:
myersia wrote:
GAME TIME wrote:Lakers have bird rights, other teams don't, reason why Lakers won't trade him.


True. However, given his history you don't think this helps Dwight gain more leverage? In the summer he is going to demand a trade so his bird rights are traded to the Nets. Now other teams will not trade with us and know that we are desperate because Dwight can just leave us if he wants to join the Mavs or Rox. Yes that means he walks away from 30 million, but in the end we are screwed. If he walks then what do we do? Trade Pau? Trade Nash? Trade MWP? Earl will probably be gone as well.


From what I understand. Since we are over the cap we cannot sign and trade him. ( new CBA)


yep, nets cannot get dwight in the summer. they're only chance is in the next 2 days.

edit: and yeah, the lakers can trade him sign n trade him away at any time, rule is only for when you're receiving the player.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:18 am
by GAME TIME
Nets don't have any leverage with those bloated contracts they signed with Brooks and Kardashian. I think the Nets have moved on, even D-Will is done with Howard. I doubt the Lakers will do a bone headed sign and trade, and would rather have him walk if he chooses and go to Hotlanta, Dallas or Houston, but if he wants to win and make more money (not even counting endorsements in la), then he be smart and stay here.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:41 am
by Jaykoolzboy
At this point I would be very happy if lakers can get Asik and Lin/Parson + some draft picks

Lin
Kobe
Clark
Gasol
Asik

Trade Nash and Ron Artest (Exp next year) for some big time bench player, Lakers are set for the next 2 years.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:45 am
by GAME TIME
Jaykoolzboy wrote:At this point I would be very happy if lakers can get Asik and Lin/Parson + some draft picks

Lin
Kobe
Clark
Gasol
Asik

Trade Nash and Ron Artest (Exp next year) for some big time bench player, Lakers are set for the next 2 years.


:roll:

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:44 am
by GeneralNash
I think we would take dwill for dwight at this point...

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Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:20 am
by DEEP3CL
destro wrote:Oh and that HotRocks guy on the GB is having a little too much fun reading the blogs.
That dude gossips more than a women, it's funny as hell to me because the boy seems so damn gullible. Anybody believing half of this BS needs to be slapped. Further more if the Nest want Howard they better get started on shedding about $28 mil, cause that's the only way they're getting him.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:05 am
by mjba
Jaykoolzboy wrote:At this point I would be very happy if lakers can get Asik and Lin/Parson + some draft picks

Lin
Kobe
Clark
Gasol
Asik

Trade Nash and Ron Artest (Exp next year) for some big time bench player, Lakers are set for the next 2 years.

set for...?

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:48 am
by BlackBerry
Lin doesn't like the lime light. That is why he was okay with leaving the New York Knicks. Even Stephen A. Smith stated this.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:25 pm
by dho4ever
BlackBerry wrote:Lin doesn't like the lime light. That is why he was okay with leaving the New York Knicks. Even Stephen A. Smith stated this.


Is there some hidden sarcasm in here?

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:49 pm
by GAME TIME
Mitch was just on CowTURD show and says there is no way he is trading Dwight, he was pretty demonstrative in saying that Dwight is the future.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:36 pm
by dockingsched
this is the type of stuff that just gets to me, but i guess i should just get used to it

Beto Duran @DuranSports

Dwight Howard if he sees himself with Lakers in future “only thing matters is right now. Nobody can control what happens this offseason”


you control what happens this off-season u freaking idiot.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:38 pm
by TyCobb
The brain of a 5 year old.

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:47 pm
by Kilroy
I mean, I get that he has to remain non-committal to a certain extent just due to the nature of the negotiations... Although, from what I've seen in the past, the Lakers are pretty fair/trustworthy/generous with their stars...
But Dwight's responses are almost confrontational in their ambiguity.
"We'll handle that after the season." Is that so hard?

Re: Dwight alluding to leaving the Lakers?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:48 pm
by dockingsched
oh chad ford

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/47144

Question: "Given that Kobe and Howard do not like eachother, Why do not the Lakers trade Kobe and keep the younger Howard and build for the future. The could still get a lot for Kobe even though he is 34."

Chad Ford (1:41 PM): One, Kobe has a no trade clause, so they can't just ship him anywhere. Two, Kobe is very popular in LA. Dwight is not. It would be a very hard sell to fans. However, with that said, I've heard rumblings that if Howard told Laker officials this summer that the only way he'd stay in LA is if Kobe leaves, the Lakers could end up choosing Howard over Kobe. It's an unlikely scenario, but one worth watching.