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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#221 » by Saaddzz » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:04 pm

If the Lakers are the 5th worst team by the end of the season, they have a high chance of getting the #1 pick! If not, Orlando does, then Philly, then Bucks do, why? Look at this..


Team by record | # of Lottery wins (since 1990)
Worst| 3
2nd-worst| 4
3rd-worst| 5
4th-worst| 0
5th-worst| 5
6th-worst| 2
7th-worst| 1
8th-worst| 1
9th-worst| 1
10th-worst| 0
11th-worst| 1


↑↑↑ Source:http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/5/21/4348616/nba-draft-lottery-history-derrick-rose-lebron-james
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#222 » by ROballer » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:08 pm

We're gonna be 4th worst...just watch :lol:
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#223 » by ROballer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:17 am

In the event that teams finish with the same record, each tied team receives the average of the total number of combinations for the positions that they occupy. In 2007, the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Portland Trail Blazers tied for the sixth worst record. The average of the 6th and 7th positions in the lottery was taken, resulting in each team getting 53 combinations (the average of 63 and 43). Should the average number not be an integer, a coin flip is then used to determine which team or teams receive the extra combination(s). The result of the coin flip is also used to determine who receives the earlier pick in the event that neither of the tied teams wins one of the first three picks via the lottery.


Should we finish tied with Utah or Boston( or both)
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#224 » by Dr Aki » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:07 am

it would be pure awesome if 4 teams had the equal 3rd worst record
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#225 » by minifang » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:54 am

I wonder how you sort out a 4 way coin flip! :lol:
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#226 » by ROballer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:53 am

If we're in a 3-way tie for 4th worst I think this is gonna happen :

In the event that teams finish with the same record, each tied team receives the average of the total number of combinations for the positions that they occupy.


Should the average number not be an integer


4+5+6 it's not (119+88+ 63) =270/3 = 90 combinations each....that would mean a 9% chance of landing the 1st pick for each team...that's roughly better odds than a normal 5th worst would bring (8.8%)

If we are tied with just one team for 4th ,the average is an integer so we're gonna need a coin toss to see which team lands more combinations(ping pong balls) and will have greater odds of advancing

The result of the coin flip is also used to determine who receives the earlier pick in the event that neither of the tied teams wins one of the first three picks via the lottery.


This is a head scratcher for me though....
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#227 » by LApwnd » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:27 pm

nice loss :lol: , we're that much closer to being 3rd in addition to pissing off Suns fans....pretty much win/win situation last night.
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#228 » by Danny Darko » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:24 pm

I'm a law of averages kind of guy... so to me the 5th has the worst hope of getting 1 and 4th has a boost by virtue that it hasn't happened yet. (Cmon Silver...just rig it baby!)

Seriously though if I'm rigging a draft I give LA #2 or 3 pick because the entire rest of the league goes ape if we move from 4,5,6 to 1.
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#229 » by LApwnd » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:10 pm

Danny Darko wrote:I'm a law of averages kind of guy... so to me the 5th has the worst hope of getting 1 and 4th has a boost by virtue that it hasn't happened yet. (Cmon Silver...just rig it baby!)

Seriously though if I'm rigging a draft I give LA #2 or 3 pick because the entire rest of the league goes ape if we move from 4,5,6 to 1.


and I bet there wasn't a peep either when Clev got the #1 pick for Irving which wasn't even theres to begin with, they got it with the clipps pick which had one of the lowest odds too to get #1 :lol:
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#230 » by AI » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:01 am

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At 6th - their likely lottery destination - Lakers have 6.3% odds at #1, 7.1% #2, 8.1% #3, 43.9% #6, 30.5% #7, 4.0% #8, 0.1% #9

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To make matters worse, that idiot Jabari Parker is likely going to stay in college and jeopardize his future as a professional basketball player.

This absolutely sucks.
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#231 » by BullsLakersFan » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:24 am

There's a small chance but we can still finish 5th. We have to lose against Spurs and Boston win against the Wizards. Then wait the coin favors us.
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#232 » by Dr Aki » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:32 am

i somehow dont think boston are that stupid, but we'll see

either way, i was done being angry at the lottery when we beat OKC, portland and phoenix
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#233 » by ROballer » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:37 am

Hope we move 1 spot in the lottery...that's not too much to ask is it?


Hope some GM prefers Randle,over Exum....if not,I'd be good with Randle
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#234 » by kobe808lak » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:22 pm

Awful win vs Utah... just pathetic.
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#235 » by The Skyhook » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:20 pm

ROballer wrote:Hope we move 1 spot in the lottery...that's not too much to ask is it?


Hope some GM prefers Randle,over Exum....if not,I'd be good with Randle

When you're outside of the top 3 you can only move into the top 3. The 4 - 14 picks are done by record unless someone of course jumps ahead of you. I'll be happy with any pick in the top 3.
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#236 » by ROballer » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:25 pm

****,less chances of advancing then

It is what it is,I'm usually optimistic but don't expect to get lucky here
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#237 » by politm » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:49 pm

**** this **** ! I'm so pissed and frustrated that I hope every player in this draft will be a bust. We **** had to beat PHX, POR and OKC. Great.
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#238 » by Draginho » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:53 pm

i'm confident guys. we will land a top3 pick. it'll be a reward for not intentionally tanking like 76ers, jazz or c's. stay positive.
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#239 » by LApwnd » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:00 pm

Dr Aki wrote:i somehow dont think boston are that stupid, but we'll see

either way, i was done being angry at the lottery when we beat OKC, portland and phoenix


I think Wiz playoff position is set and its in Bos, so there's still some hope.
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Re: Lakers Tank Discussion 

Post#240 » by Danny Darko » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:57 pm

Better to score a bump higher than be #1,2,3,4 and feel like the lottery screwed us over on the bright side.
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