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crazyeights wrote:Is that effort or has he lost athleticism?
Pau Gasol was awful and injured on Mem and once he was traded he became "the most talented big man in the league" to a lot of people.
But if Rondo's over the hill then: pass.
leeprettyp wrote:Kilroy wrote:I can't see us trading picks for Rondo... I think if it happens, it'd be for cap relief and maybe Hill. Otherwise, it'll be about where Rondo wants to go to as a free agent.
The way Jordan Hill has been playing we'd be crazy to move him. He's actually playing above his contract right now
crazyeights wrote:Is that effort or has he lost athleticism?
Pau Gasol was awful and injured on Mem and once he was traded he became "the most talented big man in the league" to a lot of people.
But if Rondo's over the hill then: pass.
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Slava wrote:crazyeights wrote:Is that effort or has he lost athleticism?
Pau Gasol was awful and injured on Mem and once he was traded he became "the most talented big man in the league" to a lot of people.
But if Rondo's over the hill then: pass.
Bill Simmons has a running joke that there's national TV Rondo who is a superstar and then there's regular Rondo.
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before;
semi-sentient wrote:leeprettyp wrote:Kilroy wrote:I can't see us trading picks for Rondo... I think if it happens, it'd be for cap relief and maybe Hill. Otherwise, it'll be about where Rondo wants to go to as a free agent.
The way Jordan Hill has been playing we'd be crazy to move him. He's actually playing above his contract right now
Hill is very much replaceable (particularly since he's not much of a defensive anchor), and I suspect that if we get a top pick or sign a free agent it's going to be for a center anyway which really marginalizes Hill.
I'm not really a huge Rondo fan, but I'd definitely trade Hill + relief for him.
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Kalidogg24 wrote:The only way I see Rondo and Kobe clashing is when Kobe is doing his James Harden impersonation on defense.
Because Rajon doesn't take any breaks on defense, EVER.
Not really. Rajon is the new Kobe, and by that, I mean he still gets credit for being a good defender, even though he stopped playing that calibre of defense years ago. He's still good at playing the passing lanes, but in terms of keeping his man in front of him, Rondo is probably 4th on the team, maybe 5th.
crazyeights wrote:Tee212 wrote:lin is like wtf...there goes my starting job.
His starting job? This isn't about Lin it's about the team. I'm not even convinced he'd be mad if we acquired Rondo, I think this would free him up to not be Kobe's #2.
leeprettyp wrote:semi-sentient wrote:leeprettyp wrote:
The way Jordan Hill has been playing we'd be crazy to move him. He's actually playing above his contract right now
Hill is very much replaceable (particularly since he's not much of a defensive anchor), and I suspect that if we get a top pick or sign a free agent it's going to be for a center anyway which really marginalizes Hill.
I'm not really a huge Rondo fan, but I'd definitely trade Hill + relief for him.
Besides DeAndre Jordan and Marc Gasol at the Center position I dont see another big i'd rather have right now than keeping Jordan Hill and just picking up his option next season. For how much Monroe is gonna ask for I'd rather keep Hill. I do agree through he needs to pick it up on rim protection.
How about Nash Houson 1st and Houston 2nd rounder (didnt we get that in the Lin deal also) would that be enough to entice Ainge into moving Rondo?
leeprettyp wrote:semi-sentient wrote:leeprettyp wrote:
The way Jordan Hill has been playing we'd be crazy to move him. He's actually playing above his contract right now
Hill is very much replaceable (particularly since he's not much of a defensive anchor), and I suspect that if we get a top pick or sign a free agent it's going to be for a center anyway which really marginalizes Hill.
I'm not really a huge Rondo fan, but I'd definitely trade Hill + relief for him.
Besides DeAndre Jordan and Marc Gasol at the Center position I dont see another big i'd rather have right now than keeping Jordan Hill and just picking up his option next season. For how much Monroe is gonna ask for I'd rather keep Hill. I do agree through he needs to pick it up on rim protection.
How about Nash Houson 1st and Houston 2nd rounder (didnt we get that in the Lin deal also) would that be enough to entice Ainge into moving Rondo?
Tee212 wrote:crazyeights wrote:Tee212 wrote:lin is like wtf...there goes my starting job.
His starting job? This isn't about Lin it's about the team. I'm not even convinced he'd be mad if we acquired Rondo, I think this would free him up to not be Kobe's #2.
its obvious that any trade made is for the team, he was the man in ny then lost his starting job in houston then goes to the lakers to back up nash to find out hes the starting pg for the lakers. enters rondo hmmm im in back of the bus again. yes lots to be excited about here for him.
crazyeights wrote:Tee212 wrote:crazyeights wrote:
His starting job? This isn't about Lin it's about the team. I'm not even convinced he'd be mad if we acquired Rondo, I think this would free him up to not be Kobe's #2.
its obvious that any trade made is for the team, he was the man in ny then lost his starting job in houston then goes to the lakers to back up nash to find out hes the starting pg for the lakers. enters rondo hmmm im in back of the bus again. yes lots to be excited about here for him.
"Back of the bus?" Seriously, it's not the time to start evoking that. Stop.
According to 82games.com, Lin is giving up 21.3 PER to his opponents and only producing 14.9...league average is 15.0.
Essentially every night his opponent is playing at Jimmy Butler, Tim Duncan, or Carmelo Anthony's level.
In PER he is tied for 166th in the league according to ESPN's PER ratings. There are 30 teams, and 5 starters a team, that's 150 players who are starters...he's 166th right now. Amongst PGs he's rated 38th.
It's simply basketball. The guy is a fringe starter. Could he start on a team? Sure. But they'd either need to be stronger at the other positions or they'd be a team with 0.4% chance to make the playoffs.
As with our team, in the starting lineup, Lin is meant to be the 2nd best player. This does not bode well the way we're constructed. It's obvious we have only Kobe as a top 100 player and we're needing top tier talent. It's not about Lin, or even about Rondo, it's about the Lakers have a lot of nice players (Lin, Nick Young, Hill, Davis) but they should be your 6th-8th men. Not your 2nd and 3rd options.
Tee212 wrote:yes on his behalf, it didnt matter youre the one bust out the stats like it mattered. just like most of the threads on the forum that gets started. much like kobe has dinner with rondo? does it matter? he has dinner with lot of other players.
