Rob Pelinka to become new Lakers GM

lake_show · Post #61 » by **lake_show** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:53 am

Hellcrooner wrote:does some of the top notch UFA this offseason happen to be one of his clients?

Only:
Andre Iguodala
And, Shabazz Muhammad

But he's also the agent for:
James Harden
Eric Gordon
Buddy Heild
Dante Exum
Marquese Chriss
Avery Bradley
Dion Waters
Tyus Jones
And, Shabazz Napier

Landsberger · Post #62 » by **Landsberger** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:58 am

Rookie coach.... rookie GM and Rookie President of BB operations. What could go wrong?

Seriously, this could have been done so much better. It's almost like it was a publicity stunt. LA drama in LA I guess.

I'm hoping a guy who's job it's been to convince players that 10% of everything is a good deal can now evaluate talent that actually fits together into a team and not on a stat sheet. That's the nuances of player development and being a GM in the league.

danfantastk32 · Post #63 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:05 am

I think it's great what we did with Lou Will. I think they should try and shop Young till the end. Other than that, I'd like to see everyone kinda sit pat. Yes.....if someone wants to trade A-Davis for Ingram, we do it.....but otherwise, let's get everyone together for a month or so, and get a plan. No need to make rushed splashes.

I like what we're doing myself.....I think this is fantastic. But let's not get carried away. Grab as many picks as you can get....and let's just keep our real pieces until Luke can weigh in with everyone, and a full-blown plan is created.

danfantastk32 · Post #64 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:08 am

Landsberger wrote:Rookie coach.... rookie GM and Rookie President of BB operations. What could go wrong?

It's becoming a bit of a broken record with me....but we could go 27-wins, 21-wins, and 17-wins, and the 22ish we'll prob get this year. In other words: How could any of this possibly be worse than what we've been dealing with? Toss Moz and Deng into the equation, and I just have no worries that this will be better.

Let's all just hope its great. Another couple titles in the next decade would be just fine with me =0)

Landsberger · Post #65 » by **Landsberger** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:44 am

danfantastk32 wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Rookie coach.... rookie GM and Rookie President of BB operations. What could go wrong?

It's becoming a bit of a broken record with me....but we could go 27-wins, 21-wins, and 17-wins, and the 22ish we'll prob get this year. In other words: How could any of this possibly be worse than what we've been dealing with? Toss Moz and Deng into the equation, and I just have no worries that this will be better.

Let's all just hope its great. Another couple titles in the next decade would be just fine with me =0)

Yeah.... I agree to a degree. It just seems so disorganized. The stuff about this being in the works for a while seem to be smoke. The timing was planned to be in the middle of deadline trade season?

It was a coup. It can't be worse can it?

TylersLakers · Post #66 » by **TylersLakers** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:17 am

Love the hire.

Spens1 · Post #67 » by **Spens1** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:32 am

What is his front office experience?

That is the main difference between Lacob and him. Lacob at least worked in a front office.

Kirito · Post #68 » by **Kirito** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:55 am

danfantastk32 wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Rookie coach.... rookie GM and Rookie President of BB operations. What could go wrong?

It's becoming a bit of a broken record with me....but we could go 27-wins, 21-wins, and 17-wins, and the 22ish we'll prob get this year. In other words: How could any of this possibly be worse than what we've been dealing with? Toss Moz and Deng into the equation, and I just have no worries that this will be better.

Let's all just hope its great. Another couple titles in the next decade would be just fine with me =0)

OO i dont know trade one of the best 6th men in the league who is killing it making peanutes for 2 years. for a late pick and a bad contract with 2 days left of the tradeline to go....

danfantastk32 · Post #69 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:37 am

Kirito wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Rookie coach.... rookie GM and Rookie President of BB operations. What could go wrong?

It's becoming a bit of a broken record with me....but we could go 27-wins, 21-wins, and 17-wins, and the 22ish we'll prob get this year. In other words: How could any of this possibly be worse than what we've been dealing with? Toss Moz and Deng into the equation, and I just have no worries that this will be better.

Let's all just hope its great. Another couple titles in the next decade would be just fine with me =0)

OO i dont know trade one of the best 6th men in the league who is killing it making peanutes for 2 years. for a late pick and a bad contract with 2 days left of the tradeline to go....

How about a 4-year $72 million dollar deal for a guy giving you 8-points and 5 rebounds? Thats year-1 for a guy on wrong side of 30.

Kirito · Post #70 » by **Kirito** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:40 am

danfantastk32 wrote:
Kirito wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:
It's becoming a bit of a broken record with me....but we could go 27-wins, 21-wins, and 17-wins, and the 22ish we'll prob get this year. In other words: How could any of this possibly be worse than what we've been dealing with? Toss Moz and Deng into the equation, and I just have no worries that this will be better.

Let's all just hope its great. Another couple titles in the next decade would be just fine with me =0)

OO i dont know trade one of the best 6th men in the league who is killing it making peanutes for 2 years. for a late pick and a bad contract with 2 days left of the tradeline to go....

How about a 4-year $72 million dollar deal for a guy giving you 8-points and 5 rebounds? Thats year-1 for a guy on wrong side of 30.

Mitch has what kind of track record? ooo yeah a great one.
The other person has 1 trade on the books ad it was horrible

Post #71 » by **Jakay** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:44 am

I can't see how a great agent wouldn't make a very competent GM. Obviously he has to prove himself in his new role, but the man obviously knows how to work the phones, discuss deals, work with the CBA, and develop player and front office relationships.

Seems like a smart hire to me. I'd be worried if Magic was planning on being the GM himself. I'm sure he'll still sign off on all transactions, but I doubt he'll be stupid controlling about it a la Dolan.

Post #72 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:44 am

Dr Aki wrote:how does an agent even put aside conflicts of interest in this situation?

ask Trump I guess

So Gutta · Post #73 » by **So Gutta** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:48 am

I've been the biggest defender of Mitch throughout the years, but the bottom-line is that the Deng/Mozgov contracts this Summer were a fire-able offense. They misread the market, and overpaid for role players. Plus, it became obvious that he couldn't command a room in a way to entice free agents to come. Players were routinely taking less money to play elsewhere.

danfantastk32 · Post #74 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:51 am

Kirito wrote:Mitch has what kind of track record? ooo yeah a great one.
The other person has 1 trade on the books ad it was horrible

Chained himself to the wrong man.....happens all the time. I don't think the Williams trade was horrible at all. I think I could find plenty of people who think it was good. Good luck finding someone who thinks the Deng deal was good.

Mitch was a great GM. Turns out the world evolved.....and he didn't. It was time for new ideas. If he was still great, then we wouldn't have only 85, or so wins over the last 4 seasons.

Don't hate Magic because Mitch and Jim couldn't get this team out of the dumpster.

Post #75 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:55 am

Kilroy wrote:
Slava wrote:My first thought as well

Read on Twitter

"The fact that Rob Pelinka looks exactly like Rob Lowe, had no bearing on his hiring. now that Phil is out of the picture ....wait what!!!!"- Jeanie Buss

fixed!

Kirito · Post #76 » by **Kirito** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:56 am

danfantastk32 wrote:
Kirito wrote:Mitch has what kind of track record? ooo yeah a great one.
The other person has 1 trade on the books ad it was horrible

Chained himself to the wrong man.....happens all the time. I don't think the Williams trade was horrible at all. I think I could find plenty of people who think it was good. Good luck finding someone who thinks the Deng deal was good.

Mitch was a great GM. Turns out the world evolved.....and he didn't. It was time for new ideas. If he was still great, then we wouldn't have only 85, or so wins over the last 4 seasons.

Don't hate Magic because Mitch and Jim couldn't get this team out of the dumpster.

How did he not evolve. He made a great trade got vetoed made 2 more great trades that just ended badly. Sure the trades ended up bad with highnsite but he works in the real world. After all that he went on a rebuilding road even to his last non move just went with young players. Even his draft has been with the new NBA of wings over bigs

TheHartBreakKid · Post #77 » by **TheHartBreakKid** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:11 am

I'm sure it's been brought up, but there is no way Harden's 18 Free agency wasn't atleast briefly considered with this hire. Don't get me wrong, Pelinka seems qualified and I'm excited to see what he's going to do, and Harden is a long shot at best. I'm just saying we can't simply ignore it.....the big three signing, Reports of Durant choosing GS during the previous season.....anything Chandler Parsons related....relationships matter in this league, whether we like it or not, and all signs indicate that while Mitch was imo an incredible GM, he offered no relationship bonuses in anyway, and really played by the books completely. Again, I'm not saying Pelinka won't play by the books, and I'm not saying that we have any form of a higher significant chance to get Harden. I'm just saying it's something to think about......Pelinka was a huge mentor in Kobe's career, and most agents have a good relationship with their clients assuming the agent hasn't screwed them over. That relationship isn't going to make or break a FA's decision....especially a superstar who will probably be looking for his first ring. However, if the basketball side of the situation is a good fit, that relationship certainly will be a plus.

I almost hate myself for going this depth about it because it's a long shot that in no way should affect our strategy, but Harden is an LA kid....he does have a Hollywood type of personality, and out of the league's under 30 superstars who aren't on a rookie contract and locked up for a long time, he's not exactly on the most stacked roster. Also, since he wasn't drafted by the Rockets, he won't qualify for the supermax IIRC. (could be wrong here). I'm just saying.....something to think about.

RamonSessions7 · Post #78 » by **RamonSessions7** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:16 am

Obviously we hired Pelinka to get Kobe back out of retirement on a 2 yr max deal.

danfantastk32 · Post #79 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:34 am

Kirito wrote:How did he not evolve. He made a great trade got vetoed made 2 more great trades that just ended badly. Sure the trades ended up bad with highnsite but he works in the real world. After all that he went on a rebuilding road even to his last non move just went with young players. Even his draft has been with the new NBA of wings over bigs

Go look at the last 3-4 years of FA attempts (not the hacks they badly overpaid for....but the REAL star players we used to pursue) and see what they all thought of the tired Laker pitch rolled out in front of them time after time.

That veto was ages ago. Enough with that. Portland got screwed when Greg Oden fell apart.....do they still get to play that card? Enough. Losing CP didn't make us the 19-win laughingstock we are like 5-6 years later.

BEazy · Post #80 » by **BEazy** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:52 am

Kirito wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Rookie coach.... rookie GM and Rookie President of BB operations. What could go wrong?

It's becoming a bit of a broken record with me....but we could go 27-wins, 21-wins, and 17-wins, and the 22ish we'll prob get this year. In other words: How could any of this possibly be worse than what we've been dealing with? Toss Moz and Deng into the equation, and I just have no worries that this will be better.

Let's all just hope its great. Another couple titles in the next decade would be just fine with me =0)

OO i dont know trade one of the best 6th men in the league who is killing it making peanutes for 2 years. for a late pick and a bad contract with 2 days left of the tradeline to go....

Dude we're paying Brewer $612,712 extra than what we were paying Lou. How is that a bad contract?? We essentially got Lou Will's contract back while contributing to the tank to ensure we keep our pick. Then Brewer's last year (expiring) we'll be paying around $500,000 extra... With the cap rising, this is mere pennies. We basically got a free 1st round draft pick from the Rockets...