Bynum has weird relationship with the lakers?

[Ballings7]

^ One 3PT shooter in the starting line-up, though (Kirk)... Kobe's more of a self-shooter and creator, than a recieving shooter.

Also don't think the Lakers are giving up on Bynum.

[Mindflayer]

Dodn't Kobe go to Colorado and have surgery on his knee(?) a few years back without the team knowing anything beforehand? We all know how that turned out. How is what Bynum did any different?

[milesfides]

Dodn't Kobe go to Colorado and have surgery on his knee(?) a few years back without the team knowing anything beforehand? We all know how that turned out. How is what Bynum did any different?

How about completely different?

Kobe felt that he needed surgery and got it done early in the OFFSEASON, by the most famous knee doctor in the world. It wasn't major surgery, it was a minor arthroscopic procedure to clean up his knee.

Bynum's camp felt he DIDN'T need surgery DURING THE SEASON - in opposition to team doctors, second opinion after second opinion, and Bynum eventually missed the playoffs, and we lost in the Finals. He finally got knee surgery months later.

Here's another difference:

Kobe SHOULD have consulted the team, but he didn't go against their wishes or their judgment. In fact, would they have wanted him to do anything different? Of course not, which is probably the reason why Kobe didn't feel the need to tell them. It was negligence, no doubt, but the offseason surgery was both in his own interest and the team's.

On the other hand, Bynum's decision involves contracts, money, agents, a difference of interests- his and the team's. At best, Bynum was listening to bad advice; at worst, he put himself above the team. Not that I expect him to play hurt, but there was plenty of sound advice which he chose not to follow.

[ChocolateThundr]

Why did Jerry Buss had to have 2 kids? Unless they were twins.

[milesfides]

He actually has two more children, Johnny and Janie.

Johnny actually was the President of the Sparks, until things went so well that Buss sold the team a couple years ago and Johnny went back to photography.

Janie, I don't know about, but bless her soul.

I don't want to talk crap over the internet about a family, because I'm sure they're all nice people with various talents, but that doesn't mean they're all qualified to run a basketball team.

Except Jeanie.

[LLcoleJ]

put a winner on the floor and everyones happy. ---but, Lets not foget billionare Paul Anshwitz who is 35% owner of thr Lakers and 100% Staples center owner..

His team and his building he wants to make some cash bad ...and he has a great team to suport moving forward. Morale of the story, Buss and Paul have alot of money and they want it wn,

[kno]

put a winner on the floor and everyones happy. ---but, Lets not foget billionare Paul Anshwitz who is 35% owner of thr Lakers and 100% Staples center owner..

His team and his building he wants to make some cash bad ...and he has a great team to suport moving forward. Morale of the story, Buss and Paul have alot of money and they want it wn,

I thought it was Philip (Anschutz, BTW) that owned the company?

Regardless, is it Philip/Paul, or the company (AEG) that own 35% of the Lakers?

[laduane1]

AB is going to get his big contract, why not just start the process and get on with it. Make both sides happy.

[Gek]

we have to worry about bynum's agent more than his doctors. I'd be interested to read an article like this on seattle... erm oklahoma city

[hermes]

put a winner on the floor and everyones happy. ---but, Lets not foget billionare Paul Anshwitz who is 35% owner of thr Lakers and 100% Staples center owner..

His team and his building he wants to make some cash bad ...and he has a great team to suport moving forward. Morale of the story, Buss and Paul have alot of money and they want it wn,

I thought it was Philip (Anschutz, BTW) that owned the company?

Regardless, is it Philip/Paul, or the company (AEG) that own 35% of the Lakers?

it's Philip Anschutz
but as far as him or the company that owns it, i don't know
in the end it would be him either way would it not?

[monk302]

This garbage didn't happen when Jerry West had control of Basketball decisions.

[milesfides]

Actually it was starting to, which is a big reason why he resigned from the Lakers in 2000. He didn't get the money, he didn't get the power, the didn't get the respect.

He got all three in Memphis two years later.

[LLcoleJ]

He actually has two more children, Johnny and Janie.

Johnny actually was the President of the Sparks, until things went so well that Buss sold the team a couple years ago and Johnny went back to photography.

Janie, I don't know about, but bless her soul.

I don't want to talk crap over the internet about a family, because I'm sure they're all nice people with various talents, but that doesn't mean they're all qualified to run a basketball team.

Except Jeanie.

He actually has 2 more kids from a different momma that are involved in the org.

[Teen Girl Squad]

Looks like Lil' Jimmy Buss is becoming quite the 'escapegoat' for the divisions of our front office. I take a different spin on this. Clearly there is a powerstruggle in the Lakers FO between Jimmy and Jeanne. But looking at all the articles everything so flippantly anti-Jim and it got me to thinking as to why. Now Jim isn't the most brilliant person and not the most upstanding but sense he became prominent in our FO drafting and trades have markedly improved as well as FO decisions. Jimmy is no where near ready to take over and like Miles says, I think Buss does favor him slightly for the opening.

So where's my spin? Simple, with Jeanne much more public persona, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if these articles weren't in part Jeanne's strategy of power in putting public pressure to oust Jimmy. There are several people playing for power in our front office from Phil, to Mitch to Jeanne to Jimmy to even Dr. Buss. But in all of the articles it seems as if everyone is holding hands and singing songs outside of the evil grinch Jimmy trying to steal Christmas and I don't buy it at all. Wouldn't surprise me at all if insider sources were jeanne or people in her camp.

I may be overthinking this but I will completely wear my cynic cap with all of these articles.

[kobeaki]

He actually has two more children, Johnny and Janie.

Johnny actually was the President of the Sparks, until things went so well that Buss sold the team a couple years ago and Johnny went back to photography.

Janie, I don't know about, but bless her soul.

I don't want to talk crap over the internet about a family, because I'm sure they're all nice people with various talents, but that doesn't mean they're all qualified to run a basketball team.

Except Jeanie.

she runs the the lakers charitable organizations, and i believe lives in either riverside ca, or oklahoma...

and the buss family is muy disfunctional...the mother of the 4 kids, when her and senior divorced, lived in the same house for 5 years , and were divorced, and the kids did not even know it...

[milesfides]

I seriously doubt Jeanie is trying to overthrow her brother, although that would be awesome.

If an accident were to befall Jim...

J/K, can't wish ill will upon anybody.

I'd bet Jeanie wishes Jim well, hopes he starts "getting" it. I can't imagine her wishing he'd fail, or thinking she could do a better job - the only time she was snappy with him was when Jim criticizes Phil. She was defending her man.

Speaking of Phil, he's probably the reason why Jerry Buss is committed to handing things over to Jim. Because giving Jeanie the power would essentially be giving Phil the power, at least that's how Jerry must view it.

No matter how incompetent Jim may seem, a father is blinded by the love for his son.

"O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! Would I had died instead of you, O Absalom, my son, my son!"

2 Samuel 18:33

[kobeaki]

a few years ago during our last run, there was a fox sports behind " the jockstrap" series on the buss family...

what i took away from that is the original 4 buss kids were not very close, and are all very unlike each other both in looks and in personality, really almost all facets of life, what is interesting, is that of the two actively involved in the lakers, the boy jim, was the one who truly was a ne'r do well most of his life, drug issues, yada yada, and that may be where jerry is coming from, now that jim is involved, relegating or even just downright firing him, would be a major rejection of him...

the boy, if the above is true, probably shouldnt have been given a position of power in the first place...and why isnt johnny more involved in the org?

[Vlade4life]

I don't get it, what would the sutures have changed about his recovery?

[Teen Girl Squad]

I don't get it, what would the sutures have changed about his recovery?

Nothing if his reported injury was true. Given that there is no reason to believe the Lakers lied about it, this just shows that Lazenby might be embellishing the truth a bit to fit the story.