Aaron Brooks matchup

kevin_405 · Post #1 » by **kevin_405** » Tue May 5, 2009 11:06 pm

I think the game was decided by Aaron Brooks making critical shots driving to the basket..
Didn't look like we had a handle on how to stop him.. Fisher looked too slow for him..

We need to play Shannon and Farmar more to win this matchup..

daddyfivestar · Post #2 » by **daddyfivestar** » Tue May 5, 2009 11:10 pm

Even Shannon got worked, but not nearly as bad as Fish.

Farmar only played a handful of possessions, but he at least kept Brooks out the paint... and hit his open 3. Phil should've given Farmar a few more minutes to see if it was a good matchup.

Post #3 » by **crazyeights** » Tue May 5, 2009 11:56 pm

Phil is getting a little too tight with his rotations and it's acing out our bench, making them even less effective.

Seriously, Powell has played like crap for two months. Sasha has only had a handful of good games. Farmar is well, he's Farmar...the only real bright spot has been Shannon and he didn't have a stellar game either yesterday.

Our bench is weak right now. Hopefully Luke comes back soon or Kobe starts playing the 3, giving our other guards some more PT, because we need everyone to be gelling by now.

DEEP3CL · Post #4 » by **DEEP3CL** » Wed May 6, 2009 12:00 am

Brooks is the type of guard that you have to shade to certain areas on the court. Due to his speed you can't press up and since he can also shoot with range you really can't sag all that much. The Lakers have their hands full on this one. It's no clear cut answer on how to contain him, using Brown isn't the be all end all answer either. Yes Shannon has the size and decent speed but without the use of an outlawed hand check, Shannon is in the same boat as Fish.

Sadly Pjax may have to re-trust Jordan again, this could be the series where he get his mojo back.

Sofa King · Post #5 » by **Sofa King** » Wed May 6, 2009 12:24 am

Miss match of Ariza, Shannon, Fish, and Farmar should confuse him. Or just get Bynum down there to block his shots.

LAKERLAW · Post #6 » by **LAKERLAW** » Wed May 6, 2009 12:56 am

Its not Derek Fisher's fault. The blame must be placed on Lamar, Bynum, Gasol and Ariza for the most part. The Lakers play a complex defense where we shadow point guards on defense and force them baseline with the hope that another laker defender (usually a big man) will rotate over and cut of the opposing player at the baseline.

Our players did not rotate, leaving Fisher and Brown looking like horrible defenders.

magic1fan · Post #7 » by **magic1fan** » Wed May 6, 2009 1:39 am

we have to take it back to 05' when parker was killing us. we have to put brooks on his ass a few times and keep him out of the lane. we have bynum,mbenga,and powell. that is 18 fouls to protect the paint.

DEEP3CL · Post #8 » by **DEEP3CL** » Wed May 6, 2009 4:15 am

magic1fan wrote:we have to take it back to 05' when parker was killing us. we have to put brooks on his ass a few times and keep him out of the lane. we have bynum,mbenga,and powell. that is 18 fouls to protect the paint.

Yep yep..........make him think about it the next time, I agree magic1f.

Post #9 » by **milesfides** » Wed May 6, 2009 4:58 am

Aaron Brooks or any other quick small point guard has ALWAYS been a Lakers weakness. That will be the biggest mismatch until Fisher retires or we upgrade. We need to give Shannon Brown and/or Farmar more minutes from the start. That is the single most important move we can make. Hopefully, Phil does it.

Post #10 » by **crazyeights** » Wed May 6, 2009 5:38 am

What's sort of funny is Farmar ended up hitting half of our 3's last game.

Not sure why he didn't get any minutes in the 2nd half.

DEEP3CL · Post #11 » by **DEEP3CL** » Wed May 6, 2009 5:50 am

crazyeights wrote:What's sort of funny is Farmar ended up hitting half of our 3's last game.

Not sure why he didn't get any minutes in the 2nd half.

He played in the 3rd eights, he made the 3 at the end of the quarter then vanished in PJax black hole......never to be seen again. Go figure.

Post #12 » by **Slava** » Wed May 6, 2009 5:57 am

Yeah if there was a chance of Farmar being of any use in this series it could have been in that game. He did a nice job staying infront of Brooks in the 2 mins he got and made his only 3 pt shot and bingo!he's never to be seen again. Only for us to watch Brooks run circles around old man Fish when we desperately needed stops. I know he's in the doghouse but you've got to give him a chance to redeem himself when you don't have a better option.

KObe Bryant · Post #13 » by **KObe Bryant** » Wed May 6, 2009 6:14 am

Phil has to understand he should use Farmar a lot of times. I hope they learned from this and I expect Farmar to have more playing time on Game 2.

TylersLakers · Post #14 » by **TylersLakers** » Wed May 6, 2009 6:18 am

I personally think that anytime we need defense, we shouldn't mention Jordan Farmar in the same sentence.

Please.. 20+ minutes for Shannon Brown. We could use the outside shooting and the athleticism, as well.

Tommy Trojan · Post #15 » by **Tommy Trojan** » Wed May 6, 2009 6:43 am

NO TO FARMAR!

realfung · Post #16 » by **realfung** » Wed May 6, 2009 9:50 am

Brooks did what T-Mac supposed to do in a smaller scale.

tlifeset · Post #17 » by **tlifeset** » Wed May 6, 2009 2:45 pm

Great thread. While I don't necessarily agree that Brooks was the "reason" the Lakers lost, he obviously contributed to the demise in game one. And is one of the many leaks we need to patch up.

I think we're all in agreement about Fisher being too slow to stay in front of Brooks. Shannon is a big body, but he over commits too much for Brooks slashing. I liked Farmar on him for the limited time he played and he seemed pretty composed despite not getting much run.

But I think we need to look at this another way. When another team goes that small you have got to expose that player when they're on defense. You run picks so that the player has to switch and then you post them up and absolutely abuse them. Then you make Adelman react ... is it worth having Brooks out there if the Lakers are just going to throttle him on defense. Have Kobe set the pick and make Brooks go to Kobe, or Ariza, or Walton (when he's back), or Odom, etc. All these guys that have good post games that Brooks will need help against. That is how you get Brooks off the floor and make him a non-factor ... trying to find someone to cover him is playing Houston's game.

This is perhaps Phil's greatest weakness, he will not adjust the game plan. I have to think it's some kind of Art of War philosophy ... never react, only act. The other Phil weakness that he HAS to get over is burying players on the bench ... why did it take so long for him to go to Farmar? Where was Bynum at the end of the game? Sure, he's in foul trouble ... but at least he made Yao have to work a little harder.

Again, let me reiterate ... I'm not mad that they lost. This is sports ... losing happens. And I know that Houston is a stout opponent. In the end, the Lakers shots went cold and they couldn't get it to the rim to draw fouls. I just hope Phil learns as the playoffs go on and doesn't try and do the same thing he did last year in the Boston series ... why is try the same things over and over and over again ... and getting the same result.

Dexmor · Post #18 » by **Dexmor** » Wed May 6, 2009 3:12 pm

I knew that matchup would kill us. I expect him to average 18 this series. We have never fixed that damm spot.

hermes · Post #19 » by **hermes** » Wed May 6, 2009 3:14 pm

Sofa King wrote:Miss match of Ariza, Shannon, Fish, and Farmar should confuse him. Or just get Bynum down there to block his shots.

he has to be in the game for that to work :-?

lakersfanatic · Post #20 » by **lakersfanatic** » Wed May 6, 2009 4:29 pm

given that aaron brooks basically man handled us in game 1. I'm pretty sure the lakers won't allow that to happen again. I think we focused to much on Yao (which was ineffective) and when aaron brooks tore it up... it caused confusion to everyone. not knowing whether it would be best to guard yao or brooks.

But like what kobe said.. it's not the end of the world.. We'll see in tonights' must win game