Jeff Green and Brandon Bass for Greg Monroe and CV

[BleedGreen1989]

For Detroit?
Gets their SF to plug into their line up and locked up at a very reasonable contract. Green can defend at a high level, shoot the 3, and give you 14-17 points while playing multiple positions. Brandon Bass can space the floor and defend very well on the ball. Useful against the Lebron, Carmelo, and PG group.

Why for Boston?
Gets a fairly young and skilled center to plug into an already young and highly skilled front court. Contract and post defense may be an issue but perhaps Danny and Brad can figure those things out.

[DK-All Day]

I'm not sure Danny would give Monroe the max; which is what it would take to retain him.

[jayjaysee]

Pistons should need a bit more value than this.. Not much but definitely something..

N.O.R.E.'s thread a couple days ago had..

Jennings , Monroe, Stuckey, KCP for Rondo + green

Obviously a much bigger trade but pretty similar.. In my opinion it should look more like..


Monroe, Stuckey for Green, Lee, Faverani.

Boston gets out of the third year of Lee's deal, get their PF/C whatever of the future.. Pistons get support on the wings at Green/Lee who could/should be their two starters for the rest of the season depending on KCP and get a seemingly quality backup center in Faverani who in my eyes has a pretty decent ceiling..

But if Boston is tanking this year, they might prefer CV or something as Stuckey actually is trying to earn a new contract unlike the other.. But Lee+Faverani would do a lot more for the Pistons than for the Celtics post trade..

But if Boston doesn't think Monroe is the max, this deal is DOA.

[DetroitPistons]

Replace Monroe with Smith and it's a deal.

[TGW]

Replace Monroe with Smith and it's a deal.

This

[Blkbrd671]

Ya i don't think the OP has enough value coming back for detroit to part with moose. as mentioned earlier you change moose to smith and its done deal

[Notanoob]

It's perfect with Smith, but if Joe Dumars decides that he's not keeping Monroe, this would be pretty good return. Green would be a solid fit. I'd like to get Lee since he would be a solid backup SG, and we're hopefully moving Stuckey for value while he's playing like SMOTY.

[sfballa13]

Deal structured around Monroe would require the following coming back to Detroit
- Rondo or Green
- Bass
- Lee or Wallace (one not both)
- Young player (Sullinger, Faverani)

Going to Celtics:
- Monroe
- Stuckey
- Jerebko
- Bynum
- Charlie V (only if Wallace not Lee is traded we would trade Charlie V and Jerebko and keep Bynum)

I dont take back any salary from Boston unless Jerebko AND Bynum are going out.

I dont trade KCP unless Bradley is included AND we take back less salary.

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That being said, if im Detroit I try to make this blockbuster that clears every bad contract Boston has and gives them Monroe:

Rondo, Green, Bass, Sullinger, Lee, Gerald Wallace, Faverani
for
Jennings, Monroe, Stuckey, Charlie V, Bynum, Jerebko, Mitchell

Leaves us with:

Rondo / Billups
KCP / Lee
Green / Wallace - Singler
Smith / Bass
Drummond / Faverani / Harrelson

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Would also consider:
Smith, Stuckey, Charlie V, Jerebko, Bynum, Singler
for
Wallace, Green, Bradley, Sullinger / Faverani, Bass

Boston trades some youth (Bradley, Sullinger, Faverani) in exchange for getting a very productive player in Smith and dumping Wallace, Bass, Lee

Jennings / Billups
Bradley / KCP
Green / Wallace
Monroe / Bass
Drummond / Sullinger --- Faverani / Harrelson

[Blkbrd671]

It's perfect with Smith, but if Joe Dumars decides that he's not keeping Monroe, this would be pretty good return. Green would be a solid fit. I'd like to get Lee since he would be a solid backup SG, and we're hopefully moving Stuckey for value while he's playing like SMOTY.

put it this way, i wouldn't necessarily be mad if we made this trade, but at the same time i'd have this gut feeling that we got screwed over or not enough value

[UN-Owen]

I've always liked Green, but you don't trade a young big with Monroe's talent for this return

[rickrolled]

No thanks from Boston.

Monroe is what he is at this Stage of his career, hes hit hit ceiling. And he cant defend, you don't pay the Max for guys that cant defend.

[DK-All Day]

Deal structured around Monroe would require the following coming back to Detroit
- Rondo or Green
- Bass
- Lee or Wallace (one not both)
- Young player (Sullinger, Faverani)

Going to Celtics:
- Monroe
- Stuckey
- Jerebko
- Bynum
- Charlie V (only if Wallace not Lee is traded we would trade Charlie V and Jerebko and keep Bynum)

I dont take back any salary from Boston unless Jerebko AND Bynum are going out.

I dont trade KCP unless Bradley is included AND we take back less salary.

-----------------

That being said, if im Detroit I try to make this blockbuster that clears every bad contract Boston has and gives them Monroe:

Rondo, Green, Bass, Sullinger, Lee, Gerald Wallace, Faverani
for
Jennings, Monroe, Stuckey, Charlie V, Bynum, Jerebko, Mitchell

Leaves us with:

Rondo / Billups
KCP / Lee
Green / Wallace - Singler
Smith / Bass
Drummond / Faverani / Harrelson

-----

Would also consider:
Smith, Stuckey, Charlie V, Jerebko, Bynum, Singler
for
Wallace, Green, Bradley, Sullinger / Faverani, Bass

Boston trades some youth (Bradley, Sullinger, Faverani) in exchange for getting a very productive player in Smith and dumping Wallace, Bass, Lee

Jennings / Billups
Bradley / KCP
Green / Wallace
Monroe / Bass
Drummond / Sullinger --- Faverani / Harrelson

I hope you are not serious.

[BleedGreen1989]

Deal structured around Monroe would require the following coming back to Detroit
- Rondo or Green
- Bass
- Lee or Wallace (one not both)
- Young player (Sullinger, Faverani)

Going to Celtics:
- Monroe
- Stuckey
- Jerebko
- Bynum
- Charlie V (only if Wallace not Lee is traded we would trade Charlie V and Jerebko and keep Bynum)

I dont take back any salary from Boston unless Jerebko AND Bynum are going out.

I dont trade KCP unless Bradley is included AND we take back less salary.

-----------------

That being said, if im Detroit I try to make this blockbuster that clears every bad contract Boston has and gives them Monroe:

Rondo, Green, Bass, Sullinger, Lee, Gerald Wallace, Faverani
for
Jennings, Monroe, Stuckey, Charlie V, Bynum, Jerebko, Mitchell

Leaves us with:

Rondo / Billups
KCP / Lee
Green / Wallace - Singler
Smith / Bass
Drummond / Faverani / Harrelson

-----

Would also consider:
Smith, Stuckey, Charlie V, Jerebko, Bynum, Singler
for
Wallace, Green, Bradley, Sullinger / Faverani, Bass

Boston trades some youth (Bradley, Sullinger, Faverani) in exchange for getting a very productive player in Smith and dumping Wallace, Bass, Lee

Jennings / Billups
Bradley / KCP
Green / Wallace
Monroe / Bass
Drummond / Sullinger --- Faverani / Harrelson

I hope you are not serious.

Yeah, sorry balla, but your "demands" are a little ridiculous.

And to those who want to swap out Monroe for Smith and try and steal Rondo somehow, you change the entirety of the trade and Boston has no interest.

[cellar-door]

I don't think it happens, but the OP is the best deal in the thread. (I'd probably add something like a 2nd going to DET)
Monroe's problem is that he is a very good player who if you want him for more than one year is going to get close to the max, which is an overpay.
With that in mind, no team including the Celtics is going to both give up talent for him and take back bad deals, since he is himself about to be a bad deal.

The Smith deals are a completely different deal (and one I think the Celtics have no interest in at all.)

[BadWolf]

Deal structured around Monroe would require the following coming back to Detroit
- Rondo or Green
- Bass
- Lee or Wallace (one not both)
- Young player (Sullinger, Faverani)

Going to Celtics:
- Monroe
- Stuckey
- Jerebko
- Bynum
- Charlie V (only if Wallace not Lee is traded we would trade Charlie V and Jerebko and keep Bynum)

I dont take back any salary from Boston unless Jerebko AND Bynum are going out.

I dont trade KCP unless Bradley is included AND we take back less salary.

-----------------

That being said, if im Detroit I try to make this blockbuster that clears every bad contract Boston has and gives them Monroe:

Rondo, Green, Bass, Sullinger, Lee, Gerald Wallace, Faverani
for
Jennings, Monroe, Stuckey, Charlie V, Bynum, Jerebko, Mitchell

Leaves us with:

Rondo / Billups
KCP / Lee
Green / Wallace - Singler
Smith / Bass
Drummond / Faverani / Harrelson

-----

Would also consider:
Smith, Stuckey, Charlie V, Jerebko, Bynum, Singler
for
Wallace, Green, Bradley, Sullinger / Faverani, Bass

Boston trades some youth (Bradley, Sullinger, Faverani) in exchange for getting a very productive player in Smith and dumping Wallace, Bass, Lee

Jennings / Billups
Bradley / KCP
Green / Wallace
Monroe / Bass
Drummond / Sullinger --- Faverani / Harrelson

I hope you are not serious.

it's not that bad
green, bass, wallace, faverani for monroe, stuckey, jerebko
reroute stuckey somewhere at deadline
I'm on board
the only problem here is if danny sees monroe as an upgrade over Sully worth their very different pricetags

[Blkbrd671]

No thanks from Boston.

Monroe is what he is at this Stage of his career, hes hit hit ceiling. And he cant defend, you don't pay the Max for guys that cant defend.

please explain how you came up with a 23 year old pf/center has hit his ceiling?

[Troubadour]

Rondo is a an all-star. Greg Monroe is not even the second best player on his own team. Any trade that involves Rajon Rondo REQUIRES Andre Drummond.

[Blkbrd671]

Rondo is a an all-star. Greg Monroe is not even the second best player on his own team. Any trade that involves Rajon Rondo REQUIRES Andre Drummond.

Dre's untouchable as already mentioned when Joe and Bos FO had discussions, and quite frankly Boston doesn't have anything that is worth Dre, or at least to how Detroit values dre. Additionally Rondo's coming off a major injury and i question whether he'd be the same player. Also you mention allstar, however i have yet to see Rondo lead his team without being surrounded by allstars. While i don't think he's had a fair chance too as of yet, he still hasn't proven he can. Lastly your diminishing moose's value because there's better players on his team? how does that make sense, he's still a 23 year old big man who plays both the PF/center position.

[DK-All Day]

Rondo is a an all-star. Greg Monroe is not even the second best player on his own team. Any trade that involves Rajon Rondo REQUIRES Andre Drummond.

Dre's untouchable as already mentioned when Joe and Bos FO had discussions, and quite frankly Boston doesn't have anything that is worth Dre, or at least to how Detroit values dre. Additionally Rondo's coming off a major injury and i question whether he'd be the same player. Also you mention allstar, however i have yet to see Rondo lead his team without being surrounded by allstars. While i don't think he's had a fair chance too as of yet, he still hasn't proven he can. Lastly your diminishing moose's value because there's better players on his team? how does that make sense, he's still a 23 year old big man who plays both the PF/center position.

This was idiotic to say. Please name a All-Star who did not have another all star by his side and while you look that up, look at the Celtics roster and tell me who made the ASG other than Rondo. Rondo was carrying the aging team before he got hurt.

[Notanoob]

The way he phrased it may be poor, but his sentiment isn't off. Rondo looked good on a really well constructed team. Also, didn't the Celtics play a lot better after Rondo got hurt?

At this point, we're looking at a Ricky Rubio sort of PG; awesome D, really good passing (not as good as Rubio's though), terrible shooting. We really don't need another guy who can't shoot, and since we have to wait and see how he does until he comes back from injury, Rondo's value isn't super high anyways.

Also, there have to be tons of guys who were the only All-Star on their team at one point or another. Tmac in Orlando, Kobe in the post-Shaq Lakers, LeBron James on the Cavs, CP3 in New Orleans IIRC...I'm not sure what point you're making with this anyways.