Bynum for Lopez

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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#41 » by LApwnd » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:21 am

NetsForce wrote:I've followed the Lakers closely ever since they got rid of Snaq. LA is by no means my favorite team but I've seen enough of them to competently comment on how good Andrew Bynum really is.

so if La is not your favorite team why do you follow them, makes no sense whats so ever, if your following LA just for Bynum you obviously know something is there then, or else why follow a team you have no vested interest? I'll agree the trade makes no sense for either team but dont dismiss Bynum #'s because he plays next to other stars, it works both ways, playing next to 2 dominant players can also reduce his #'s in the same line as make him look better then he is but you guys just want to discredit him. Do you think Lopez can assert himself enough to put up 15/8 if he were here, IMO I dont think so he's doing 18/8 being a 1st/2nd option depending on the games, as Harris I assume is the the other 1st/2nd. Like I said Bynum was doing 20/10 with ease when the season started and has had long stretches of games where he did 20/10 consistently before getting injured.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#42 » by NetsForce » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:29 am

Me following the Lakers has nothing to do with Andrew Bynum, I want Kobe to have my babies there I admitted it.

And you better believe Lopez would in a worst case scenario get a Bynum-like 15-8 he got 13-8 AS A ROOKIE playing with Harris and Carter.

Lopez is more of a team player than Bynum and it's not even debatable.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#43 » by LApwnd » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:28 am

NetsForce wrote:Me following the Lakers has nothing to do with Andrew Bynum, I want Kobe to have my babies there I admitted it.

And you better believe Lopez would in a worst case scenario get a Bynum-like 15-8 he got 13-8 AS A ROOKIE playing with Harris and Carter.

Lopez is more of a team player than Bynum and it's not even debatable.


based on what, carter/harris dont take up space in the paint, who exactly is Lopez competition when it comes to post play? and dont play off your comments with snide remarks....people usually follow a team for nothing if they're not a fan to begin with :roll:
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#44 » by deviljets7 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:55 am

Even if Bynum is as good as Lopez (he isn't), the difference in contract and health makes this a bad trade for the Nets.

The idea that the Nets would be 10 games better with Bynum is beyond laughable.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#45 » by VintaGe36 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:21 am

Regardless of your feelings talent-wise. (which apparently will be disagreed upon for a good long while)

When you factor in contract status, bang for your buck and injury history it's not even close.

Lopez > Bynum
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#46 » by Mr. E » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:13 pm

Lopez has the better contract & is more talented. Why does New Jersey do this?

And to explain that in addition to giving up the better player on the better contract, your selling point for them is "you take a cap hit; but get the hometown kid?"

I don't know if "the hometown kid" is enough for them to overlook the cap hit, worse contract and losing the better player.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#47 » by Jase » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:17 pm

It's pretty much been determined that there's no incentive for New Jersey to consider this. Even from a Laker's standpoint, it's unrealistic.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#48 » by Prospect Dong » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:38 pm

I'll agree the trade makes no sense for either team


No, it makes plenty of sense for the lakers. Even if we take the most generous assessment of Bynum's talent, and say that the lakers would be getting back a guy who was, say, 90% as good, Lopez is healthier, has had less time to realise his potential and saves the lakers millions and millions of luxury tax doubled dollars. The lakers take this one and run...
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#49 » by daddyfivestar » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:58 pm

Surprised this thread has lasted this long
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#50 » by BR0D1E86 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:00 pm

Regardless of your feelings talent-wise. (which apparently will be disagreed upon for a good long while)

When you factor in contract status, bang for your buck and injury history it's not even close.

Lopez > Bynum


Don’t see how this can be argued.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#51 » by CDM88 » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:56 am

VintaGe36 wrote:Regardless of your feelings talent-wise. (which apparently will be disagreed upon for a good long while)

When you factor in contract status, bang for your buck and injury history it's not even close.

Lopez > Bynum

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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#52 » by RTM » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:42 am

^ Do it. You seem to feel pretty strongly that Bynum > Lopez in every aspect. You also seem to be the only one.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#53 » by NetsForce » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:46 am

Bynum is a 5 year veteran while Lopez is in his 2nd year... And Lopez is still better :lol:
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#54 » by Jersey Generals » Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:51 am

I don't know if Lopez is better, but he deff. does have greater value.
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Post#55 » by N.O.R.E. » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:38 pm

There's actually no way you can argue that Bynum has more value than Lopez when you take every factor into account.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#56 » by LApwnd » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:02 pm

N.O.R.E. wrote:There's actually no way you can argue that Bynum has more value than Lopez when you take every factor into account.


there isn't, but some of the poster here make it sound as if Bynum is JJ Hickson or something, he's not getting SPOON fed on every possesion, he can get his own offense and isn't putting up #'s mainly due to playing next to Kobe/Pau.....if anything from other hating on Kobe calling him a ball hog, Bynum being able to avg. 15ppg should be a testament to his talent.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#57 » by dunkonu21 » Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:22 pm

Bynum is not that good. This deal is laughable.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#58 » by doctor him » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:06 pm

LApwnd wrote:
N.O.R.E. wrote:There's actually no way you can argue that Bynum has more value than Lopez when you take every factor into account.


there isn't, but some of the poster here make it sound as if Bynum is JJ Hickson or something, he's not getting SPOON fed on every possesion, he can get his own offense and isn't putting up #'s mainly due to playing next to Kobe/Pau.....if anything from other hating on Kobe calling him a ball hog, Bynum being able to avg. 15ppg should be a testament to his talent.


You're right...Bynum is no JJ Hickson.

Hickson is still on his rookie deal. Bynum is at what? $10 mil a year?

No contest there.
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#59 » by LApwnd » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:40 pm

doctor him wrote:
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N.O.R.E. wrote:There's actually no way you can argue that Bynum has more value than Lopez when you take every factor into account.


there isn't, but some of the poster here make it sound as if Bynum is JJ Hickson or something, he's not getting SPOON fed on every possesion, he can get his own offense and isn't putting up #'s mainly due to playing next to Kobe/Pau.....if anything from other hating on Kobe calling him a ball hog, Bynum being able to avg. 15ppg should be a testament to his talent.


You're right...Bynum is no JJ Hickson.

Hickson is still on his rookie deal. Bynum is at what? $10 mil a year?

No contest there.


yea and I"m sure Clev would say no to Bynum for Hickson if it was offered :roll:
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Re: Bynum for Lopez 

Post#60 » by VintaGe36 » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:56 pm

That was clearly sarcasm.

If you won't agree that Lopez is better than Bynum statistically(which he is this year, btw)

You cannot disagree that in terms of trade value, Lopez is the greater asset.

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