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Re: DeRozan

Postby Mr Swagtastic on Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:55 pm

I don't think Toronto does this really. Turner has potential to be a Jalen Rose type of SF but then again DeRozan has potential as well. Either way both players are what they are I think at the end of the day Turner is more valuable then DD at this point and time. Now that leaves us Bargs + Kleiza for Thad and Nik Young to me I don't do that deal. Bagnani is a elite scorer in this league who is a underrated man defender and defender in general. I think he will fit the mold in Toronto and if we were to do this deal I think Thad and Nik would be shipped out for a good legit PF in return or some sort of draft pick.
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Re: DeRozan

Postby AussieBuck on Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:16 pm

Horrible for Philly.
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Re: DeRozan

Postby LongLiveIverson on Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:22 pm

I just feel that Toronto isn't going anywhere with Barganani as their top scorer. Very talented, but then again so is a guy like JR Smith and Marcus Thornton. (No defense, not a complete player who wins you games if you get what im saying)

Turner-Ross-Lowry backcourt would be perfect together. Fields as a swing 6th man, Young just as an extra shooter to space the floor. At center obviously Jonas would be relied on heavily, Amir Johnson and Gray would provide depth. The 4 would obviously be weaker without Barganani but Thad and Ed Davis would provide an offense/defense combo much like what we did in the playoffs and succeeded with Thad and Lavoy Allen. In Klienza your not losing much as you already have Turner/Ross/Fields/Young to play the 2-3. If the Sixers threw Arnett Moultrie their first rounder this year I think it would be extremely beneficial for the future. Keep in mind you also have Calderon as an expiring to swing with lets say an Ed Davis for a quality 4 like Paul Milsap.

C. Jonas/Amir/Gray
F. Thad/Davis/Moultrie
F. Turner/Fields
G. Ross/Young
G. Lowry/JLucas/Jose
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Re: DeRozan

Postby ballislife on Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:45 pm

If we're giving up Bargnani and pieces, I'd look for something like Jrue at least. He's a game changer... Thad really cant make the same impact on the game.

DeRozan and Turner are a wash, but this season is going to be determinant on how their careers will pan out. They both have higher expectations this upcoming season.
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Re: DeRozan

Postby old rem on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:57 am

LongLiveIverson wrote:Sixers fan here.
Seems like Derozan is on a shorter leash with you guys drafting Terrence Ross at 8..who by the way I love, has the bounce and the jumper to be a solid scoring threat for a long time.

Evan Turner, Thad Young, Nick Young For DeMar Derozan, Barganani, Klienza

In Turner you are getting an upgrade from Derozan on the wing, who actually plays defense and rebounds like a beast. Would fit in perfect with Terrence Ross and Lowry who both can stroke it from deep. He can run the point as well when Lowry is on the bench assuming you trade Calderon.
Nick Young is a nice expiring deal who provides 3pot shooting which you guys lacked. Thad can be your 6th man and would be perfect next to a defensive center like JV.

C. Jonas/Amir/Gray
F. Ed Davis/Thad
F. Turner/Fields
G. Ross/Young
G. Lowry/JL3


Here...I think Canadians look at Math just like I would and the DeRozean/Bargs duo were close to 40ppg,the Turner,Young duo,were not much over 20. That Turner might someday be an upgrade,he is not that now. He's been less than expected.

I expect DeRozean moves to SF, which was more his natural slot. Valancunias might become a quality starter but he's not there yet and Bargs is therefore the big who's of value. The various PF's Toronto plays with him are,like T Young, SF sized and at best borderline starters. Here...Toronto loses established starters,gets guys who failed to lock down a starter job. Duh? :roll:
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Re: DeRozan

Postby Mattd97 on Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:38 am

torontos giving up too much, but id still do it just to reboot
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Re: DeRozan

Postby eliasrapp98 on Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:03 pm

old rem wrote:
LongLiveIverson wrote:Sixers fan here.
Seems like Derozan is on a shorter leash with you guys drafting Terrence Ross at 8..who by the way I love, has the bounce and the jumper to be a solid scoring threat for a long time.

Evan Turner, Thad Young, Nick Young For DeMar Derozan, Barganani, Klienza

In Turner you are getting an upgrade from Derozan on the wing, who actually plays defense and rebounds like a beast. Would fit in perfect with Terrence Ross and Lowry who both can stroke it from deep. He can run the point as well when Lowry is on the bench assuming you trade Calderon.
Nick Young is a nice expiring deal who provides 3pot shooting which you guys lacked. Thad can be your 6th man and would be perfect next to a defensive center like JV.

C. Jonas/Amir/Gray
F. Ed Davis/Thad
F. Turner/Fields
G. Ross/Young
G. Lowry/JL3


Here...I think Canadians look at Math just like I would and the DeRozean/Bargs duo were close to 40ppg,the Turner,Young duo,were not much over 20. That Turner might someday be an upgrade,he is not that now. He's been less than expected.

I expect DeRozean moves to SF, which was more his natural slot. Valancunias might become a quality starter but he's not there yet and Bargs is therefore the big who's of value. The various PF's Toronto plays with him are,like T Young, SF sized and at best borderline starters. Here...Toronto loses established starters,gets guys who failed to lock down a starter job. Duh? :roll:

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