The Pau Gasol Pickle

shrink · Post #316 » by **shrink** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:22 pm

schaffy wrote:
Foshan wrote:I think MIN fans are still dreaming if they think DWill has positive value...

DWill is a bench scrub

If D-Will is such a bench scrub and has no positive value, why not leave him out of your trade? I mean, what team would volunteer to take on a guy who has no positive value? Just leave him with Minnesota if that is how you really feel about him and match salaries with some other players.

If MIN thinks he has more value than an expiring and you do not, the answer is simple: just substitute Steimsma in as salary filler.

MIN will happily trade Williams elsewhere, in some of the other deals posters make to get him. In most Gasol deals, a starting SG is still left as a hole, for the luxury of having Gasol come off the bench behind Pek.

spree8 · Post #317 » by **spree8** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:27 pm

GhostX wrote:Probly the most likely packages being offered from teams with interest ...

MIN- Pek, Williams, Broys EXP, Barea

TOR- Bargs, Jose (maybe Ross)

BOS- Green, Bass, filler

MIA- Basically their whole bench including Chalmers

Mitch would never let Miami have Gasol....that's just crazy.

SCourGe OF GoD · Post #318 » by **SCourGe OF GoD** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:59 am

LA Gets: Nene, Ariza, DWill, JCrawford

WAS Gets: Pekovic, Roys EXP, Barea, Blake

MIN Gets: Gasol

Mattya · Post #319 » by **Mattya** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:08 am

Take out Pekovic.

Cashin out · Post #320 » by **Cashin out** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:44 am

Mattya wrote:Take out Pekovic.

So Minny gets Gasol for peanuts?

Dwill/Barea/Roy is not enough to get Pau Gasol.

Mattya · Post #321 » by **Mattya** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:08 am

Cashin out wrote:
Mattya wrote:Take out Pekovic.

So Minny gets Gasol for peanuts?

Dwill/Barea/Roy is not enough to get Pau Gasol.

Pau Gasol at 20 mil, with bad knees. Yea I'm not giving more than peanuts.

Gasol isn't even worth Pekovic alone.

Cashin out · Post #322 » by **Cashin out** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:24 am

Mattya wrote:
Cashin out wrote:
Mattya wrote:Take out Pekovic.

So Minny gets Gasol for peanuts?

Dwill/Barea/Roy is not enough to get Pau Gasol.

Pau Gasol at 20 mil, with bad knees. Yea I'm not giving more than peanuts.

Gasol isn't even worth Pekovic alone.

lol Pekovic is nothing special your gm wanted to trade him and Dwill for Pau and the Lakers turned them down.

Pau has won championships Dwill looks like a draft bust and Pekovik is a ok center but he is a stiff on defense.

Pau>Dwill/Pekovic

Mattya · Post #323 » by **Mattya** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:58 am

No. Pekovic is not a stiff on defense. Keep on making assumptions.

False report from LA followed by the sheep.

Post #324 » by **Texas Chuck** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:41 pm

A healthy and motivated Gasol is certainly a better player than Pek. But we dont know how healthy he is, Minny would be taking a serious risk on how happy Gasol would be in Minny--newsflash all Spaniards arent automatically BFFs, and then there is the whole issue of their respective contracts/ages. I can appreciate Minny passing on Gasol for Pek+. Too much risk for too little gain for them imo.

jscott · Post #325 » by **jscott** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:16 pm

Cashin out wrote:
Mattya wrote:
Cashin out wrote:So Minny gets Gasol for peanuts?

Dwill/Barea/Roy is not enough to get Pau Gasol.

Pau Gasol at 20 mil, with bad knees. Yea I'm not giving more than peanuts.

Gasol isn't even worth Pekovic alone.

lol Pekovic is nothing special your gm wanted to trade him and Dwill for Pau and the Lakers turned them down.

Pau has won championships Dwill looks like a draft bust and Pekovik is a ok center but he is a stiff on defense.

Pau>Dwill/Pekovic

You're delusional.

Gasol doesn't have anywhere near that kind of value. A guy making 40 million over the next 2 (at 60% w/ bad knees and poor play) isn't considered an asset.

The Mark Stein report of Pek/Williams for Pau didn't happen. Just poor reporting and a desperate fanbase looking for a solution.

warren weel im · Post #326 » by **warren weel im** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:58 pm

GhostX wrote:LA Gets: Nene, Ariza, DWill, JCrawford

WAS Gets: Pekovic, Roys EXP, Barea, Blake

MIN Gets: Gasol

Your sending us the worst versions of "DWill" and "JCrawford" ... if only that meant Deron and Jamal.

andyhop · Post #327 » by **andyhop** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:08 pm

warren weel im wrote:
GhostX wrote:LA Gets: Nene, Ariza, DWill, JCrawford

WAS Gets: Pekovic, Roys EXP, Barea, Blake

MIN Gets: Gasol

Your sending us the worst versions of "DWill" and "JCrawford" ... if only that meant Deron and Jamal.

Well the Wolves are getting the worst version of Gasol so its only fair

DanTown8587 · Post #328 » by **DanTown8587** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:59 pm

Udrih, Dalembert and Illasoyva for Gasol, Clark, Morris?

LA
Nash/Udrih
Bryant
World Peace/Meeks
Illasoyva/Hill
Howard/Dalembert

Milwaukee
Jennings
Ellis
LRAM/Harris
Gasol/Gooden
Sanders

JB2 · Post #329 » by **JB2** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:41 pm

Minny: Gasol
Portland: D Will, Pek, Ridnour
LA: Batum

Does Portland want to save some $$ and get a legit center? Do they think D Will can turn into what Batum is?
Does Minny pay that price to get Gasol/Love/Ak/Rubio. I'd think so. That's an insane lineup if Pau comes back to form.

Mattya · Post #330 » by **Mattya** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:44 pm

JB2 wrote:Minny: Gasol
Portland: D Will, Pek, Ridnour
LA: Batum

Does Portland want to save some $$ and get a legit center? Do they think D Will can turn into what Batum is?
Does Minny pay that price to get Gasol/Love/Ak/Rubio. I'd think so. That's an insane lineup if Pau comes back to form.

If is a big word. Especially when that if comes with a 19 million dollar contract.

Post #331 » by **jazzfan1971** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:55 pm

andyhop wrote:
warren weel im wrote:
GhostX wrote:LA Gets: Nene, Ariza, DWill, JCrawford

WAS Gets: Pekovic, Roys EXP, Barea, Blake

MIN Gets: Gasol

Your sending us the worst versions of "DWill" and "JCrawford" ... if only that meant Deron and Jamal.

Well the Wolves are getting the worst version of Gasol so its only fair

Post of the week.

AQuintus · Post #332 » by **AQuintus** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:46 pm

Cashin out wrote:lol Pekovic is nothing special your gm wanted to trade him and Dwill for Pau and the Lakers turned them down.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmx4twCK3_I[/youtube]

torotoe · Post #333 » by **torotoe** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:40 am

Chandler, brewer, mozgov, koufos for gasol, cheapest contracts on la.

Improved starting lineup and bench for la. Chandler at the 4 is a better fit than Pau. Brewer would be 6th man. Mozgov, Koufos and Hill would all battle for minutes. Chandler had his best days with D'antoni.

Denver gets Pau for bench players because of the money, and the fact that Pau has regressed. Now that it's the 15th, this trade is possible.

SCourGe OF GoD · Post #334 » by **SCourGe OF GoD** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:22 pm

torotoe wrote:Chandler, brewer, mozgov, koufos for gasol, cheapest contracts on la.

Improved starting lineup and bench for la. Chandler at the 4 is a better fit than Pau. Brewer would be 6th man. Mozgov, Koufos and Hill would all battle for minutes. Chandler had his best days with D'antoni.

Denver gets Pau for bench players because of the money, and the fact that Pau has regressed. Now that it's the 15th, this trade is possible.

Would prefer the Minnesota offer. Any Denver deal has to start with Gallo or we aint listening

torotoe · Post #335 » by **torotoe** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:23 pm

GhostX wrote:
torotoe wrote:Chandler, brewer, mozgov, koufos for gasol, cheapest contracts on la.

Improved starting lineup and bench for la. Chandler at the 4 is a better fit than Pau. Brewer would be 6th man. Mozgov, Koufos and Hill would all battle for minutes. Chandler had his best days with D'antoni.

Denver gets Pau for bench players because of the money, and the fact that Pau has regressed. Now that it's the 15th, this trade is possible.

Would prefer the Minnesota offer. Any Denver deal has to start with Gallo or we aint listening

Then it's a mutual feeling. Not a chance Denver trades Gallo for Gasol.