swap of italian stallions

Lakonomy · Post #1 » by **Lakonomy** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:38 pm

This is for a roster re-balancing of both teams. Simple swap: Gallinari + protected pick for Bargs.

For Den, Bargs would actually work pretty well sandwiched between K. Faried and McGee/Kosta, with AI at the wing. Adds a dose of shooting while the rest of the team crashes the glass.

For Tor, We need SF production badly, and have a glut of PFs. This team is not constructed to maximise Bargs strengths. With this trade we start Amir and have an SF that can help take the scoring pressure off DD and Lowry.

The pick is for the fact that Gallinari's contract is a year longer. I'd think lottery protection for Denver, so Tor would likely get a pick in the late teens to mid twenties sometime in the next 1-3 years.

Mad-Eye Moody · Post #2 » by **Mad-Eye Moody** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:43 pm

This doesn't make sense for Denver. Gallinari is the better player, and also younger than Bargnani. Denver also has better options at the 4, starting with Kenneth Farried. And then you have Denver adding a pick, adding insult to injury.

For Toronto, this is a no brainer. They drastically improve the SF position from Fields (who is contributing nothing) to Gallo, who can play at an all-star level.

becorz · Post #3 » by **becorz** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:04 pm

Mad-Eye Moody wrote:This doesn't make sense for Denver. Gallinari is the better player, and also younger than Bargnani.

As a person with no dog in this race, I disagree that Gallinari is better. He has never had a PER better than Bargs. I will give you Galinari being better at defense, but he isn't a difference maker on that side of the ball. If I'm a win now team that needed a shooter, I probably take Bargs.

Post #4 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:17 pm

becorz wrote:
Mad-Eye Moody wrote:This doesn't make sense for Denver. Gallinari is the better player, and also younger than Bargnani.

As a person with no dog in this race, I disagree that Gallinari is better. He has never had a PER better than Bargs. I will give you Galinari being better at defense, but he isn't a difference maker on that side of the ball. If I'm a win now team that needed a shooter, I probably take Bargs.

Agreed Gallo isnt clearly better than Bargs and Denver has the players to hide some of Bargs' warts. Being asked to be a 2nd or 3rd option offensively and always taking the easiest defensive matchup he would fit in great with Denver. Gallo is good at a lot of things but he isnt great at anything and Im beginning to wonder if he ever will be.

I actually think this deal makes sense for both sides if you take the pick out.

x- · Post #5 » by x- » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:41 pm

The concept isn't bad, I just think it would be TOR that would have to add further value, not Denver.

I'd much rather have Gallinari on my team than Bargnani.

BossHoggin · Post #6 » by **BossHoggin** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:46 pm

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1211897

BossHoggin wrote:
Yoga wrote:Further added from original post:

Denver In: Kleiza, Bargnani
Denver Out: Gallinari, Mozgov

Toronto In: Gallinari, Mozgov
Toronto Out: Kleiza, Bargnani

We get our starting SF (Gallinari) and back up center (Mozgov) to Jonas V

Denver gets 3 pt shooting in Bargnani and a backup SF in Kleiza

DEN/TOR discussion: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1211103&p=33523621

Gallo > your players

Kleiza is overpaid and not positive value. So he widens the gap on Bargnani and Gallinari. Who cares about Mozgov.

In this thread, I link to a thread where I linked to a thread concerning Toronto and Denver

Lakonomy · Post #7 » by **Lakonomy** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:43 pm

I think Tor would still consider this without the pick.

We'd have a frontcourt scoring gap to fill, but Gallo, Lowry and DD is a pretty decent starting pg/wing group.

torotoe · Post #8 » by **torotoe** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:32 am

Denver would not make this trade. Gallo has high potential, bargs is what he is.