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A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby Kupchak9 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:44 am

Here's a different version of http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1219959

LAL out: Howard Duhon Blake Hill
LAL in: Love Humphires Ridnour

Simply said, if LA cant fetch anything for Pau, they should shop Howard for something that they actually like and is guaranteed to stay. Love has a natural affinity to LA and has always wanted to play for the Lakers. The Lakers can have better overall depth, maximize Pau's abilities and continue to have their so called *2014 plan.*


MIN out: Love Ridnour
MIN in: Lopez Brooks BRK 1sts


In the other deal we got Minny taking back on Gasol which isnt the direction they're going in, while in this one they don't need to give up either Dwill orAK.


BRK out: Howard Duhon Blake Hill
BRK in: Lopez Humphries Brooks 1sts

BRK is getting a steal in the previous deal, in this one they're asked to take on some deadweight to even out the odds.
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby srrono on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:55 am

All happy accept MIN. Love under contract 3 more years no hurry. Will take more to get Love.
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby Texas Chuck on Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:08 am

what is Minny supposed to do with Pek now? They certainly cant be playing him and Lopez together.

Even if those guys could co-exist on the court the value is still absolutely terrible for Minny. Its just like all those Gasol for LMA threads. LAL cant turn anything they have into Kevin Love. They need a 3rd team that wants Howard and has the right ingredients to give Minny. And Im not sure there are any teams with the assets to get Love free who would prefer taking a chance on Howard walking over keeping Love.

LAL fans need to start being more realistic with their trade targets.
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Postby shrink on Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:28 am

Love would probably require a superstar back.

It's a good attempt for LAL to get major value for Dwight Howard, but I have a question that I don't know the answer to:

After all of Howard's indecisiveness for the last two years, is there any team that would feel there is a 100% chance he would re-sign with them exclusively?
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby Saltine on Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:29 pm

LOL, Minny says nope.
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Postby I_Socrates on Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:55 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:what is Minny supposed to do with Pek now? They certainly cant be playing him and Lopez together.

Even if those guys could co-exist on the court the value is still absolutely terrible for Minny. Its just like all those Gasol for LMA threads. LAL cant turn anything they have into Kevin Love. They need a 3rd team that wants Howard and has the right ingredients to give Minny. And Im not sure there are any teams with the assets to get Love free who would prefer taking a chance on Howard walking over keeping Love.

LAL fans need to start being more realistic with their trade targets.


It's not hard to find a taker for Pek. This is not terrible value for the Wolves, although they could use a bit more coming to them. I'm not sure who can offer more though, because now you've got the Nets taking on Duhon and Blake while also sending out the picks and Brooks. You might get them to give up some euros or something, but don't think that would be enough so you'd have to maybe involve a 4th team to take on one of the dead weights and Pek and send value to Minny.
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Postby casteral on Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:55 pm

Lol, it may be a surprise to the Laker nation, but Kahn hangs up the phone.

Gasol probably makes some sense in Adelman's scheme (albeit perhaps like Pau from 2-5 years ago), but Lopez makes absolutely no sense, especially at the cost of Love. Brooks and some undefined 1sts don't make up the difference.
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby theatlfan on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:38 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:what is Minny supposed to do with Pek now? They certainly cant be playing him and Lopez together.

Even if those guys could co-exist on the court the value is still absolutely terrible for Minny. Its just like all those Gasol for LMA threads. LAL cant turn anything they have into Kevin Love. They need a 3rd team that wants Howard and has the right ingredients to give Minny. And Im not sure there are any teams with the assets to get Love free who would prefer taking a chance on Howard walking over keeping Love.

LAL fans need to start being more realistic with their trade targets.
IF Howard is on the table, then ATL has Horford, expirings, 2 1sts, and Jenkins (basically another 1st) on the table. If we;re taking on some of LAL's contracts though, we'd take assets off the table.

Having said that, I seriously doubt Howard is on the table no matter how many threads we see here. It doesn't matter if LAL loses the next 40 games, Howard is almost a certainty to remain with LAL so it's really a moot point anyway.
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby Esohny on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:50 pm

Saltine wrote:LOL, Minny says nope.


Yep, can't even get upset about this one, it's so far off.
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby magic wand time on Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:58 pm

Insane overvalueing of Klove on this site but this one is still light.
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby [RCG] on Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:19 am

magic wand time wrote:Insane overvalueing of Klove on this site but this one is still light.


Why is that?

And Lopez is redundant - not close for Minny.
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby Texas Chuck on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:22 am

magic wand time wrote:Insane overvalueing of Klove on this site but this one is still light.


not sure how saying hes much more valuable than a maxed-out Brook Lopez and scraps is "insane overvaluing"?

Care to defend/elaborate that statement?
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby magic wand time on Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:44 am

No. I said site not thread. Asking for Lebron or Durant, give me a **** break.
Posters are acting like he's a once in a generation player, like he's the next Barkley. Absurdity.
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby Kupchak9 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:25 am

magic wand time wrote:No. I said site not thread. Asking for Lebron or Durant, give me a **** break.
Posters are acting like he's a once in a generation player, like he's the next Barkley. Absurdity.


Now you're just exaggerating. I have never seen a Wolves fan post an asking price of Lebron or Durant for KLove, more like have them paired up rather than swapped. You're perception of how other fanbases overvalue their players is twice as inflated to the way they see the Laker's fanbase.
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Re: A different approach on LAL/ MIN / BRK

Postby magic wand time on Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:40 am

Kupchak9 wrote:Now you're just exaggerating. I have never seen a Wolves fan post an asking price of Lebron or Durant for KLove, more like have them paired up rather than swapped. You're perception of how other fanbases overvalue their players is twice as inflated to the way they see the Laker's fanbase.

People always adding words to make their point... I said this site, not Wolves fan. Do you read into everything or just make it up to support your point? And asking prices quoted on this site... Lebron, Durant, for instance:
I think Love trades need to end unless one of the following players is heading to Minny:
LBJ
Durant
As in a locked up star player.
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