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Post#1 » by Kupchak9 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:59 am

LAL out: Pau MWP Blake JHill
LAL in: Afflalo West Hedo Harrington

LA gets a couple of defensive-minded guys that can hit jumpers, better fit for their system, given that they have to take on some deadweight.


ORL out: Afflalo Hedo Harrington
ORL in: MWP Hansbrough JHill IND 1st

The Magic are in need of a serious revamp before they enter a treadmill stage. While they do lose one of
their best players, they unload roughly 20 mil of deadweight.


IND out: West Hansbrough Augustin 1st
IND in: Pau Blake

The Pacers put Pau in a position where he can thrive, while he may not be playing at the 5, he's always been able to maximize the offensive abilities of center's he's played with (Bynum, Howard). Hes really a guy that can get Hibbert through this sluggish start.
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Post#2 » by Kobe System » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:34 pm

I like it for the Lakers. Not because of West but because of Afflalo. Too good for the Lakers to be honest.
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Post#3 » by tiderulz » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:11 pm

Absolutely not from the Magic. Harrington and Hedo can be cut next year for half their prices. A late Indy 1st is not nearly enough compensation for something like this.
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Post#4 » by Dr Aki » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:49 pm

this is a major overhaul id be behind

west/harrington makes this deal go down smoother for sure
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Post#5 » by BizGilwalker » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:28 pm

The Magic don't need to be [you-know-what]-ed again by the Lakers.
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Post#6 » by Wizop » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:44 pm

Pacers can't afford to move West he's just too much of a leader and role model to be traded. I'd love Pau though. I wouldn't even laugh at a deal that included a healthy Granger.
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Post#7 » by Cigamodnalro » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:21 pm

Lakers can have Afflalo if they can land the Magic a top pick in the draft. Magic willing to absorb semi-bad contract. Not going to get screwed again by the Lakers. Good luck.

LA trades Pau Gasol, Devin Ebanks
Receives: Arron Afflalo, Emeka Okafor, WAS 2015 Protected #1 Pick

WAS trades: Trevor Ariza, Emeka Okafor, Unprotected 2013 Pick, 2015 Protected #1 Pick
WAS receives: Pau Gasol, Devin Ebanks

ORL trades: Arron Afflalo
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Post#8 » by Kupchak9 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:15 pm

tiderulz wrote:Absolutely not from the Magic. Harrington and Hedo can be cut next year for half their prices. A late Indy 1st is not nearly enough compensation for something like this.


Hoopshype has Hedo with a player option next year and Harrington with 2 more fully guaranteed years of salary. I dont see how they can be cut for half prices?
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Post#9 » by tiderulz » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:18 pm

Kupchak9 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:Absolutely not from the Magic. Harrington and Hedo can be cut next year for half their prices. A late Indy 1st is not nearly enough compensation for something like this.


Hoopshype has Hedo with a player option next year and Harrington with 2 more fully guaranteed years of salary. I dont see how they can be cut for half prices?


Harrington's next 2 years are only half guaranteed. Hedo can be cut for $6mil. So that is the half price
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Post#10 » by Alienware » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:14 pm

Love this as a laker, especially for Afflalo.
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Post#11 » by Kupchak9 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:50 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Kupchak9 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:Absolutely not from the Magic. Harrington and Hedo can be cut next year for half their prices. A late Indy 1st is not nearly enough compensation for something like this.


Hoopshype has Hedo with a player option next year and Harrington with 2 more fully guaranteed years of salary. I dont see how they can be cut for half prices?


Harrington's next 2 years are only half guaranteed. Hedo can be cut for $6mil. So that is the half price


yes but as a GM thats already amnestied 60 million plus dollars just to get rid of a player (Arenas) wouldn't it look bad to keep giving away millions just to cut players.
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Post#12 » by Jase » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:21 am

Kupchak9 wrote:yes but as a GM thats already amnestied 60 million plus dollars just to get rid of a player (Arenas) wouldn't it look bad to keep giving away millions just to cut players.


Different GM. You're thinking Otis Smith. He was canned.
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Post#13 » by Doddage » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:24 am

Absolutely not from the Pacers.
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Post#14 » by Cigamodnalro » Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:51 am

Kupchak9 wrote:yes but as a GM thats already amnestied 60 million plus dollars just to get rid of a player (Arenas) wouldn't it look bad to keep giving away millions just to cut players.


A) Not the same GM. Otis Smith no longer works for the Magic. And Rich Devos is more than happy to make financial concessions for the benefit of his team. ORL has it really nice in that regard.
B) Harrington is half guaranteed in the sense that roughly 50% of his contract is performance based after this season. The team wouldn't have to cut him to save money (or at least that is my impression).
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Post#15 » by Darth Tyrannus » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:34 am

way too good for the lakers as usuall, the need to realize Gasol is not going to net that value back with age, contract and recent injuries that are an a issue
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Post#16 » by Kupchak9 » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:15 am

I was under the assumption that Harrington and Turk were bad contracts.
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Post#17 » by Cigamodnalro » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:19 am

Kupchak9 wrote:I was under the assumption that Harrington and Turk were bad contracts.


Harrington is a solid player whose contract is 50% incentive based after this season. Turkoglu has a 50% buyout after this season as well, making it such that a team could trade for him and then waive him for more than $6,000,000 in savings. It's not like either contract is worth a ton on the trade market, but both are potentially useful pieces if utilized correctly by whoever acquires them.
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Post#18 » by winter_mute_13 » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:38 am

Kupchak9 wrote:I was under the assumption that Harrington and Turk were bad contracts.


So are Artest and Blake's contracts though. Agree with others, simply too good for the Lakers. Other teams are giving up too much value.

As for the Pacers, I don't think we're interested in trading West, even though Gasol would seem to be an upgrade (on paper anyway). Plus Gasol makes too much for a cost-conscious small market team like the Pacers.
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Re: Lakers / Magic / Pacers 

Post#19 » by Wizop » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:06 pm

and West's leadership is too important to give up.

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