Re: RGM's Top 25 Most Valuable Players - Vote for #10
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:13 pm
Vote: Blake Griffin
Nominate: Marc Gasol
Nominate: Marc Gasol
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Narf wrote:V: Love
N: Bosh
I had to think about the Griffin vs Love argument. I think Love is the better player, and I don't think Griffin is more marketable as Love is blowing up the media from Minnesota quite well. So that argument is out.
To me the question is, who do you think gives you a better shot at winning a championship? I think Love does.
WizardsWorld wrote:I'm just going to keep copying and pasting my response... its been the same for about the last 4 of these .... getting silly IMO
The fact that Blake isn't on the list yet is a joke but I'll keep playing along anyway...
Vote: Blake Griffin
Nominate: Deron Williams
Trader_Joe wrote:Narf wrote:V: Love
N: Bosh
I had to think about the Griffin vs Love argument. I think Love is the better player, and I don't think Griffin is more marketable as Love is blowing up the media from Minnesota quite well. So that argument is out.
To me the question is, who do you think gives you a better shot at winning a championship? I think Love does.
I think Griffin is more marketable as H_F has pointed out. His Twitter followers, FB fans, Kia ads, etc.
Also, I think it's a stretch to say Love offers you a better shot at the title when he has yet to be in the playoffs. I'd like to see how he would play in the playoffs before even making that claim.
And finally the fact that Love is about to miss 6-8 weeks (which is a majority of the remaining schedule) because of a re-occurred injury does not help his value. A playoff team wouldn't trade for him since it would severely impact their seeding or chance at the playoffs.. only a rebuilding one would.. but would a rebuilding team take a shot on a player who has publicly been all about being on a winner? I just don't understand what the trade market would be for Kevin Love right now.
fallacy wrote:What's the joke about Griffin not being a top 9 most valuable? What's so special about his okay stat line and already missing an entire season due to injury while being on a max contract?
17.7/8.5/.6blks on .532/.250/.623 shooting, .562 ts%, .535 eFg%, 22.4 PER, 100 million dollars
14.4/8.5/2.9blks on .565/.300/.818 shooting, .609 ts%, .574 eFg%, 19.9 PER, 48 million dollars
The first one is griffin, the second one is Ibaka. Griffin is good, but its far from a "joke" that he's not top 10 most valuable.
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Ibaka should be nominated soon. Imo this current nominee crop is all pretty damn close, and its hard to complain about Bosh or M. Gasol, or Ibaka or ...
But your not voting out Griffin and voting in Ibaka. Your voting in Love, so I will ask you the same question I asked VC, why?
fallacy wrote:HartfordWhalers wrote:
Ibaka should be nominated soon. Imo this current nominee crop is all pretty damn close, and its hard to complain about Bosh or M. Gasol, or Ibaka or ...
But your not voting out Griffin and voting in Ibaka. Your voting in Love, so I will ask you the same question I asked VC, why?
Are we talking about their value for just this year or over their careers? If it's just this year its clearly Griffin, if it's over their careers it's Love.
Love just came off a 26 point, 13 rebound season with a 25.4 PER
Trader_Joe wrote:fallacy wrote:HartfordWhalers wrote:
Ibaka should be nominated soon. Imo this current nominee crop is all pretty damn close, and its hard to complain about Bosh or M. Gasol, or Ibaka or ...
But your not voting out Griffin and voting in Ibaka. Your voting in Love, so I will ask you the same question I asked VC, why?
Are we talking about their value for just this year or over their careers? If it's just this year its clearly Griffin, if it's over their careers it's Love.
Love just came off a 26 point, 13 rebound season with a 25.4 PER
Right now... as we approach the February 21st trade deadline.... who has the highest trade value.
We do this annually too.
fallacy wrote:Love then. He just came off a season that Griffin will never have and his current injury doesn't scare me for the future.
Trader_Joe wrote:fallacy wrote:Love then. He just came off a season that Griffin will never have and his current injury doesn't scare me for the future.
Who are "you" though?
A playoff team that wanted to trade for him, but now worry if they do they might not make the playoffs?
Or a non-playoff team that always worried that Love would publicly state his unhappiness and leave in 2.5 years?