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Suns & Grizz Usher Dwight Back East

Postby ecuhus1981 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:02 am

Trade ID# 6198300

Brooklyn Nets Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Dwight Howard, Metta World Peace, Hamed Haddadi
Outgoing Players: Brook Lopez, Gerald Wallace, MarShon Brooks, '13 and '15 1sts
BRK drops trou for a superstar.
Williams, Johnson, Peace, Humphries, Howard
Watson, Bogans, Stackhouse, Evans, Blatche


Los Angeles Lakers Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Rudy Gay, Marcin Gortat, Kendall Marshall
Outgoing Players: Dwight Howard, Metta World Peace, Chris Duhon
LAL gets younger while maintaining a win-now approach.
Nash, Bryant, Gay, Gasol, Gortat
Blake, Meeks, Clark, Jamison, Hill


Memphis Grizzlies Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Gerald Wallace, Chris Duhon, Shannon Brown, '13 and '15 1sts
Outgoing Players: Rudy Gay, Jerryd Bayless, Hamed Haddadi
MEM improves defense and depth for the postseason, while trimming future payroll.
Conley, Allen, Wallace, Randolph, Gasol
Duhon, Brown, Pondexter, Arthur, Speights


Phoenix Suns Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Brook Lopez, MarShon Brooks, Jerryd Bayless
Outgoing Players: Marcin Gortat, Shannon Brown, Kendall Marshall
PHX nabs a young C to build for the future.
Dragic, Brooks, Dudley, Beasley, Lopez
Bayless, Johnson, Scola, Morris, O'neal
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Re: Suns & Grizz Usher Dwight Back East

Postby JB2 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:46 am

Phx and BK say hell yess
Lakers and Grizz decline

Send the Lakers back some picks from Phx, including their own, then maybe.
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Postby hcsilla on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:48 am

Creative trade and a very good one, I have a hard time finding a hole in it, good job,

I disagree that both the Lakers and Grizzlies refuse this deal.

Gortat is an ideal pick-and-roll partner for Nash, they upgrade MWP to Gay and get a lottery pick. The Suns won't send back their picks, especially not in this deal.

Memphis get Wallace a hardworker replacement for Gay, Brown is a servicable backup and the picks make up the youth that they lose with Gay.
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Postby LA_Sports on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:59 am

I can't see the Lakers downgrading their center for what they gain in Gay. Plus that doesn't give them a true player to build around in the future. So no
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Postby UN-Owen on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:17 am

Does Memphis need to improve their defense?

I thought they needed shooters
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Postby Young_Star11 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:40 am

Not bad value-wise for all involved. Can't say that about most of the trades on this board.
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Re: Suns & Grizz Usher Dwight Back East

Postby nevetsov on Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:51 am

Suns don't want to help the Lakers get healthy. They want the Lakers to miss the Playoffs so PHX gets their lottery pick.
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Re: Suns & Grizz Usher Dwight Back East

Postby magic wand time on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:42 pm

ecuhus1981 wrote:Trade ID# 6198300

Brooklyn Nets Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Dwight Howard, Metta World Peace, Hamed Haddadi
Outgoing Players: Brook Lopez, Gerald Wallace, MarShon Brooks, '13 and '15 1sts
BRK drops trou for a superstar.
Williams, Johnson, Peace, Humphries, Howard
Watson, Bogans, Stackhouse, Evans, Blatche


Los Angeles Lakers Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Rudy Gay, Marcin Gortat, Kendall Marshall
Outgoing Players: Dwight Howard, Metta World Peace, Chris Duhon
LAL gets younger while maintaining a win-now approach.
Nash, Bryant, Gay, Gasol, Gortat
Blake, Meeks, Clark, Jamison, Hill


Memphis Grizzlies Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Gerald Wallace, Chris Duhon, Shannon Brown, '13 and '15 1sts
Outgoing Players: Rudy Gay, Jerryd Bayless, Hamed Haddadi
MEM improves defense and depth for the postseason, while trimming future payroll.
Conley, Allen, Wallace, Randolph, Gasol
Duhon, Brown, Pondexter, Arthur, Speights


Phoenix Suns Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Brook Lopez, MarShon Brooks, Jerryd Bayless
Outgoing Players: Marcin Gortat, Shannon Brown, Kendall Marshall
PHX nabs a young C to build for the future.
Dragic, Brooks, Dudley, Beasley, Lopez
Bayless, Johnson, Scola, Morris, O'neal


Change Duhon to Blake to add to LA's benefit and I'm sold (no pick needed).
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Re: Suns & Grizz Usher Dwight Back East

Postby 1UPZ on Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:11 pm

JB2 wrote:Phx and BK say hell yess
Lakers and Grizz decline

Send the Lakers back some picks from Phx, including their own, then maybe.



If Howard was locked in for 3-4 years... you'd have a case for Lakers wanting picks as they have leverage..

but with Howard expiring and a FA... Lakers would be better off looking for a big man and another contributor locked in whilst Kobe, Nash, Gasol core can compete.
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Postby 1UPZ on Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:12 pm

nevetsov wrote:Suns don't want to help the Lakers get healthy. They want the Lakers to miss the Playoffs so PHX gets their lottery pick.



yeah Suns dont want ANY part of making the lakers playoff chances increase..... its a conflict of interest.
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Postby I_Socrates on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:58 pm

JB2 wrote:Phx and BK say hell yess
Lakers and Grizz decline

Send the Lakers back some picks from Phx, including their own, then maybe.


Not a chance in hell. I don't like it for the Suns as is, then you want us to include picks? PLEASE!
Lopez has been nice, sure. Let's not forget though that the injury concerns have not disappeared, and he's paid a max salary. He's not a number 1 option, probably never will be, and we don't have anyone else that can be that for us. Add in the fact that we like to run and Lopez is slower than a sloth, and we're just not interested.

He's not a good fit, he's overpaid, and he has injury concerns. I'll stick with Gortat and possibly be happier taking on Gay, who's locked in for less years and doesn't have the injury concerns. :)
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Re: Suns & Grizz Usher Dwight Back East

Postby ecuhus1981 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:51 am

1UPZ wrote:
nevetsov wrote:Suns don't want to help the Lakers get healthy. They want the Lakers to miss the Playoffs so PHX gets their lottery pick.

yeah Suns dont want ANY part of making the lakers playoff chances increase..... its a conflict of interest.

Fair points. Realize though that IF the Lakers trade Dwight, it'll be at the trade deadline, with playoff hopes already effectively dashed. I don't think that PHX would be helping LAL keep its pick.


This deal would help LAL recoup something substantial for Howard before he bolts, and prep for next season. As an unrestricted FA with a dozen willing to move mountains to sign him, Dwight has other options. He is NOT staying in LA for a team that can't maximize his strengths, and is getting ancient. With a reunited Nash/Gortat P&R combo and an offseason work out the Jordan/Pippen dynamic of Kobe and Gay, the could be a force in 2014.
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Re: Suns & Grizz Usher Dwight Back East

Postby willbsn13 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:50 am

Phoenix says hell yes. Lakers still don't improve the bench though, which has been a problem for them this season
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Postby DirtyDez on Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:44 am

It's good value but I wouldn't do something like this until the summer.
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Re: Suns & Grizz Usher Dwight Back East

Postby JoseRizal on Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:53 am

1UPZ wrote:
JB2 wrote:Phx and BK say hell yess
Lakers and Grizz decline

Send the Lakers back some picks from Phx, including their own, then maybe.



If Howard was locked in for 3-4 years... you'd have a case for Lakers wanting picks as they have leverage..

but with Howard expiring and a FA... Lakers would be better off looking for a big man and another contributor locked in whilst Kobe, Nash, Gasol core can compete.

This.

Without any commitment for Dwight, the Lakers don't have the cards. Unless, they let him walk for nothing...

Good trade for all parties imo.
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