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Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby parson on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:37 am

The deal is Josh Smith to Houston for Omer Asik, Marcus Morris and Royce White.

ATL gets the true Center they need and stops asking if they can figure out how to use Smith. Asik helps the team make sense.

HOU, which is fading a bit lately, ends up in the lottery, since they'll have no Center. They dump 2 salaries (their 2nd and 6th-best PFs) that would get in the way of a max FA this offseason and become the frontrunners for Dwight Howard. Next season, they begin with Lin/Harden/Parsons/Smith/Howard AND a lottery player.

If HOU really wants Dwight Howard, they're prepared to trade Asik, anyway.
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby N.O.R.E. on Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:05 am

The only way Houston considers this is if they talk to Dwight's people and confirm his interest in playing alongside Harden and Josh Smith. PG could be addressed using Lin, their lotto pick and other young assets in a trade.
The Rox would be able to build a potential dynasty fairly quickly...

On the other hand, I see the Hawks doing this deal only if they talk to Dwight's people and realise there's no way he's coming home to play alongside Josh Smith. I think this is a pretty damn good package for Josh Smith and would give the Hawks plenty of flexibility to make further moves.
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby Br0ken_Sp0ke on Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:25 am

No thanks. You're saying it like it's a done deal that Dwight would choose the Rockets if we had Smith, but really it's far from a sure thing. The Rockets can just take a shot at Dwight this summer the way things are...And if by some crazy chance he agrees to sign here, THEN we could proceed to trade Asik for a PF upgrade.

You're more than welcome to have Royce though.
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby zapatasblood on Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:34 am

Want nothing to do with Smith
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby pja123 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:14 am

How about this variation...

Rockets get:
Josh Smith
Timofey Mozgov
Mike Scott

Hawks get:
Omer Asik
Marcus Morris
Donatas Montajeunas

Nuggets get:
Anthony Morrow
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby branny on Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:41 am

Br0ken_Sp0ke wrote:No thanks. You're saying it like it's a done deal that Dwight would choose the Rockets if we had Smith, but really it's far from a sure thing. The Rockets can just take a shot at Dwight this summer the way things are...And if by some crazy chance he agrees to sign here, THEN we could proceed to trade Asik for a PF upgrade.

You're more than welcome to have Royce though.


That's a much safer way
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby Texas Chuck on Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:53 am

I cant imagine Houston trading Asik under any circumstances this season. Completely agree that if they reach a deal with Dwight that they would have absolutely no trouble moving him for good return. They could even potentially deal him to Atl in a S&T for Smith this offseason but I dont love the fit of those two together nor would I like the idea of essentially letting Dwight play GM.

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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby torotoe on Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:06 am

I love it for ATL, not too hot on this for Houston. If it helps em land dwight that's good.
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby zapatasblood on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:13 pm

pja123 wrote:How about this variation...

Rockets get:
Josh Smith
Timofey Mozgov
Mike Scott

Hawks get:
Omer Asik
Marcus Morris
Donatas Montajeunas

Nuggets get:
Anthony Morrow

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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby BigLurch92 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:42 pm

Smith doesn't get you Asik. Especially since he is a free agent at the end of the year.

His trade value isn't this high IMO.
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby x- on Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:23 pm

Br0ken_Sp0ke wrote:No thanks. You're saying it like it's a done deal that Dwight would choose the Rockets if we had Smith, but really it's far from a sure thing. The Rockets can just take a shot at Dwight this summer the way things are...And if by some crazy chance he agrees to sign here, THEN we could proceed to trade Asik for a PF upgrade.

You're more than welcome to have Royce though.


This.

zapatasblood wrote:Want nothing to do with Smith


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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby parson on Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:37 pm

BigLurch92 wrote:Smith doesn't get you Asik. Especially since he is a free agent at the end of the year.

His trade value isn't this high IMO.

How high will Asik's trade value be if you sign Dwight Howard? Teams will know you'll have to trade him, since he'll be headed for a $15 million payout, which is a ton for a bench guy who'll would only play 10-15 minutes/game.
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby Golabki on Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:54 pm

N.O.R.E. wrote:The only way Houston considers this is if they talk to Dwight's people and confirm his interest in playing alongside Harden and Josh Smith. PG could be addressed using Lin, their lotto pick and other young assets in a trade.
The Rox would be able to build a potential dynasty fairly quickly...

I agree, value wise it doesn't make sense for Houston unless there is a clear plan to get Dwight. But, it seems like if that's the plan they may as well keep Asik for a Dwight S/T and sign Smith outright.
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby phx#7 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:34 pm

parson wrote:
BigLurch92 wrote:Smith doesn't get you Asik. Especially since he is a free agent at the end of the year.

His trade value isn't this high IMO.

How high will Asik's trade value be if you sign Dwight Howard? Teams will know you'll have to trade him, since he'll be headed for a $15 million payout, which is a ton for a bench guy who'll would only play 10-15 minutes/game.


The number of teams who'd want Asik won't diminish if the Rockets sign Howard so it really wouldn't effect his trade value.
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Re: Wanna trade Josh Smith? HOU!

Postby BigLurch92 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:46 pm

The whole premise of this trade is questionable. Without a guarantee from Dwight and Josh to resigning they don't do it.
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