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Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby celtspacers on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:56 pm

Pacers get Rondo a true point guard they need. Celtics get a center Roy Hibbert
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Postby jowglenn on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:59 pm

I'm a Pacers fan.

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Jesus of course yes.
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby Curmudgeon on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:09 pm

Nah, Hibbert is too expensive.
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Postby Kupchak9 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:10 pm

Kind of slim for Boston and Indy wont have any starting caliber Centers

How bout:

INDY out: Hibbert Granger Hill
INDY in: Rondo Gortat Lee

That team is lethal

BOS out: Rondo Sullinger Lee
BOS in: Hibbert Hill

They get younger\

PHO out: Gortat
PHO in: Granger Sullinger

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Postby eliasrapp98 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:10 pm

Love the reasoning... Pacers get a PG, Celtics get a C. Lol
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby j_angel on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:13 pm

I want more value from that as a Boston fan.

Also the addition Sully/Lee for Hill included is a no go.


I think we could get more for Rondo from a team like Utah. Who have young big men to offer + better young assets.
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby Curmudgeon on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:51 pm

I like Mahinmi. I might trade Rondo for Mahinmi, Paul George and filler, but I doubt if the Pacers do that. Indiana would obviously like to get rid of the overpaid and underperforming Hibbert, but he's not going to fetch Rondo.
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby Jon Niednagel on Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:15 pm

Kupchak9 wrote:Kind of slim for Boston and Indy wont have any starting caliber Centers

How bout:

INDY out: Hibbert Granger Hill
INDY in: Rondo Gortat Lee

That team is lethal

BOS out: Rondo Sullinger Lee
BOS in: Hibbert Hill

They get younger\

PHO out: Gortat
PHO in: Granger Sullinger

All Star scoring option


That trade is worse than the first for the Celtics, and how do you figure they younger? Did I miss the green font?
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby hcsilla on Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:50 pm

There is no way that the Suns give Gortat for Granger and Sullinger.
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby old rem on Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:53 pm

jowglenn wrote:I'm a Pacers fan.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes yes yes yes.

Jesus of course yes.


I'm surprised. I would not touch it. You can't GET a 7-2 versatile C who has a good attitude,is young,is healty. A PG? Every year there are a couple.
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby old rem on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:00 pm

hcsilla wrote:There is no way that the Suns give Gortat for Granger and Sullinger.


You may underestimate Sullinger, who's damn good. I thought the Suns might be the only team that says yes in this.
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby hcsilla on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:05 pm

I see Sullinger a future nice benchplayer ala Tyler Hansbrough. Even if I underestimate him, the Suns do not need him with Scola, Morris, Beasley and maybe Frye at PF.

But the main problem is Granger and his salary. He and it do not make sense for a rebuilding teams.
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby j_angel on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:05 pm

Young? hes basically the same age as Rondo.
Versatile?
- He isnt a good offensive player.
- He isnt a good rebounder for his size either. He averages 8.2 rebounds per 28mins. Thats 10.5 per 36. Thats less than 6'9 Jared Sullinger.
- Yes he is a terrific defender, but he isnt versatile. Kevin Garnett is versatile.

You are overselling Hibbert & Undervaluing Rondo.
There two careers are not even comparable to this date.
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby j_angel on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:12 pm

hcsilla wrote:I see Sullinger a future nice benchplayer ala Tyler Hansbrough. Even if I underestimate him, the Suns do not need him with Scola, Morris, Beasley and maybe Frye at PF.

But the main problem is Granger and his salary. He and it do not make sense for a rebuilding teams.


Sullinger has a way higher ceiling than Hansborough.

Sullinger is 20, just entering the league and putting up 6.1/6 in 20 mins (around 11/10.8 per 36).
Hansborough is 27, seven years old and his best season was 11/5.2 (think he was around 25/26 in that season) in 22 mins. He has not matched those stats since then.

Hansborough is a solid bench player good for 15-20mins a night currently, having been in the league 4 years and being 27. Sullinger is already that at the age of 20.
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Re: Pacers Celtics Hibbert Rondo

Postby pacers33granger on Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:12 pm

j_angel wrote:Young? hes basically the same age as Rondo.
Versatile?
- He isnt a good offensive player.
- He isnt a good rebounder for his size either. He averages 8.2 rebounds per 28mins. Thats 10.5 per 36. Thats less than 6'9 Jared Sullinger.
- Yes he is a terrific defender, but he isnt versatile. Kevin Garnett is versatile.

You are overselling Hibbert & Undervaluing Rondo.
There two careers are not even comparable to this date.


The issue is mostly that it turns Indy from a large, strong defensive team into a team lacking size. After the trade our center rotation would be Mahinmi and Pendergraph, with West in spot minutes.

Plus it puts Hill on the bench making $8 mil and gives us way to many wing players.
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