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PHO/NY/POR

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Post#1 PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:08 pm by ORANGEandBLUE

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=awoomrw

Portland gets: J.R. Smith, Jermaine O'Neal

Phoenix gets: Victor Claver

NY gets: Shannon Brown, PJ Tucker

For Portland: gets 2 experienced vets on its bench for its playoff run.

For Phoenix: sacrifices Tucker to turn Brown's 3.5 per over 2 years into Claver's upside and 1.3 per over 3 years. Gets rid of O'Neal in the process without having to pay his whole contract.

For NY: NY has too many scorers and needs a defensive, tough-minded 3 to put next to Melo. Dolan can deal with Brown's contract. Perhaps add in a Prigs/Telfair swap as well?
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Post#2 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:15 pm by Milkdud

Portland isn't looking like a playoff team or a quick first round exit at best. I don't think they are looking to gear up for a playoff run this season. That said Portland isn't giving much in value away, just kind of a weird deal. I really doubt JR Smith would be happy at all going from NYC to Portland, I could see bringing a pretty bad attitude with him.
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Post#3 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:31 pm by cucad8

I imagine JR would HATE getting traded from NY to Portland. I've never been a fan of his, but just on the value, I'd take it. I suppose at the very least, it opens another 1.3 in cap space for Portland, removing Victor, and assuming JR opts out.
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Post#4 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:47 pm by phx#7

Suns wouldn't trade Tucker in a deal like that.
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Post#5 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:51 pm by ORANGEandBLUE

phx#7 wrote:Suns wouldn't trade Tucker in a deal like that.


How about this one? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aw5wb7a

Phoenix gets about $3m extra cap room and gets rid of Beasley.
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Post#6 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:55 pm by phx#7

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
phx#7 wrote:Suns wouldn't trade Tucker in a deal like that.


How about this one? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aw5wb7a

Phoenix gets about $3m extra cap room and gets rid of Beasley.


As appealing as it would be to get rid of Beasley the Suns wouldn't want to be locked into a specialist like Novak. If Novak could be flipped for expirings then it would make sense.
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Post#7 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:07 pm by ORANGEandBLUE

I don't know if Novak can get a 2013 expiring but how about Linas Kleiza at $4m per for 2 years?
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Post#8 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:09 pm by phx#7

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:I don't know if Novak can get a 2013 expiring but how about Linas Kleiza at $4m per for 2 years?


I'd probably do that.
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Post#9 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:10 pm by ATF

Lol the Blazers aren't needed in this one. The Suns would trade Brown and Trucker for Smith.
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Post#10 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:17 pm by ORANGEandBLUE

ATF wrote:Lol the Blazers aren't needed in this one. The Suns would trade Brown and Trucker for Smith.

I don't know about that. He'd sulk all season and then walk. At least Portland is a playoff team.
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Post#11 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:20 pm by Lin Your Face

There is no way the Knicks trade JR for this package. His scoring is needed, his defense is good, and the Knicks don't need the extra depth.
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Post#12 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:20 am by Village Idiot

Portland would probably say yes. I like it. It makes us immediately better and entails no risk.
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Post#13 Re: PHO/NY/POR
Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:34 am by hcsilla

ATF wrote:Lol the Blazers aren't needed in this one. The Suns would trade Brown and Trucker for Smith.


No, they wouldn't since Smith certainly will opt-out of his deal while Tucker is signed for another year. Smith can't help the Suns and would walk away next summer.'
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