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I said any Josh trade had to be ridiculous.

He was not traded, and a day later its reported he is highly unlikely to be resigned. Meanwhile, Atlanta with him isn't a true contender this year, and hoping for something from a sign and trade isvery optimistic.

So, success? (although not phx or the bucks)

HartfordWhalers wrote:I said any Josh trade had to be ridiculous.

He was not traded, and a day later its reported he is highly unlikely to be resigned. Meanwhile, Atlanta with him isn't a true contender this year, and hoping for something from a sign and trade isvery optimistic.

So, success? (although not phx or the bucks)

Every report about Josh has been ridiculously bad. Every year their is a report about Josh leaving or being traded and every time "reports" are always wrong, its just stupid hack journalism. i don't know why gullible casual fans keep beleiving all those wrong reports.

So, your of the expert opinion he isn't on the outs with Atlanta. A lot of Hawks fans feel otherwise.

I think at the end of the day, Smoove is going to the team that makes him the largest offer. If that's Atlanta, then he'll stay for sure. It's not like an awkward relationship between Hawks' FO and him is a new thing.

For Atlanta, you have to figure that they'll try to re-sign Smoove if they can't get Dwight Howard interested. If only to keep him as a trade asset for later. Can't imagine a better use for their cap space.

winter_mute_13 wrote:I think at the end of the day, Smoove is going to the team that makes him the largest offer. If that's Atlanta, then he'll stay for sure. It's not like an awkward relationship between Hawks' FO and him is a new thing.

For Atlanta, you have to figure that they'll try to re-sign Smoove if they can't get Dwight Howard interested. If only to keep him as a trade asset for later. Can't imagine a better use for their cap space.

You have that backwards, Hawks have enough cap space for 3 max contracts, they want to sign both Smith and Howard.

orlandomanic wrote:You have that backwards, Hawks have enough cap space for 3 max contracts, they want to sign both Smith and Howard.

TWO max contracts. Hawks can only do 3 if each player comes at a discount, ala the Miami Heat's trio.

But you're right about us wanting to sign both Smith and Howard.

franktony wrote:Atlanta fans were really delusional about Smith's value.

Don't understand this rationale at all. Atlanta fans stated what it'd take to land Smith which seems and considering how things panned out, asking for a lot for him was what was going on in the FO. I don't want to take credit away from other team's fans around here though - they didn't offer it either.

i think smith and howard will be playing together...question will be which team? LAL, HOU, or ATL? i think smith will likely be willing to accept less since howard will get max

inquisitive wrote:i think smith and howard will be playing together...question will be which team? LAL, HOU, or ATL? i think smith will likely be willing to accept less since howard will get max

I've some to the conclusion that there's no way Smith will take less $$ than the max if he can bring Dwight with him. Josh doesn't think like that at all...

HartfordWhalers wrote:So, your of the expert opinion he isn't on the outs with Atlanta. A lot of Hawks fans feel otherwise.

He's saying the "expert opinions" have been wrong - on all levels - every time they were uttered. We Hawks fans have been lectured by fans (like you) that we didn't know what we were talking about. Check out y'all's record for accuracy - it aint very impressive when it comes to Josh Smith. How many times do we have to be right about him before y'all listen?

We want a good Center for him - or forget trading. He wants to be a star and paid very well. Those are the truths that matter. This offseason, we'll try to get a good Center and Smith will take the best offer he can find. He will not sign elsewhere just to get out. That's silly.

inquisitive wrote:i think smith and howard will be playing together...question will be which team? LAL, HOU, or ATL? i think smith will likely be willing to accept less since howard will get max

dont see how he can end up in LA, the cba does not allow teams $4mill over tax threshold to do a S&T and that is the only way to get Smith in LA.

LApwnd wrote:

inquisitive wrote:i think smith and howard will be playing together...question will be which team? LAL, HOU, or ATL? i think smith will likely be willing to accept less since howard will get max

dont see how he can end up in LA, the cba does not allow teams $4mill over tax threshold to do a S&T and that is the only way to get Smith in LA.

are you guys going to amnesty pau? cause that would be necessary for this to even be considered though even with amnesty lakers might still be over 4mil, but yeah, you're correct abut the S&T requirement.

inquisitive wrote:

LApwnd wrote:

inquisitive wrote:i think smith and howard will be playing together...question will be which team? LAL, HOU, or ATL? i think smith will likely be willing to accept less since howard will get max

dont see how he can end up in LA, the cba does not allow teams $4mill over tax threshold to do a S&T and that is the only way to get Smith in LA.

are you guys going to amnesty pau? cause that would be necessary for this to even be considered, but yeah, you're correct abut the S&T requirement.

whats the point of amenstying Pau? If we resign Howard still over both cap and tax threhold, if Howard doesn't stay still over the cap w/o Pau and in that case why would we want Smith long term in place of Pau w/o Howard?

theatlfan wrote:

inquisitive wrote:i think smith and howard will be playing together...question will be which team? LAL, HOU, or ATL? i think smith will likely be willing to accept less since howard will get max

I've some to the conclusion that there's no way Smith will take less $$ than the max if he can bring Dwight with him. Josh doesn't think like that at all...

then i guess that would eliminate the two playing together if he feels that way.

whats the point of amenstying Pau? If we resign Howard still over both cap and tax threhold, if Howard doesn't stay still over the cap w/o Pau and in that case why would we want Smith long term in place of Pau w/o Howard?[/quote]

then that pretty much ends that then.

im hoping Colangelo gets on this. Sign and trade Terrence Ross/Linas Kleiza/Aaron Gray/John Lucas for Smith. then amnesty Andrea.



Val
Smith
Gay
Derozan
Lowry


is a stud lineup and goes neck and neck for the top 3 slot in the east

Since he wasn't traded, and hitting the open market... I'm banking on Houston to pickup J-Smoove.

I think Houston strikes out with Howard and he goes there.

As long as he doesn't come to Portland

Unrestricted, so why would Houston need to trade for him?

Still thinking that ATL is still the most likely landing spot - maybe on a 1-year deal. After that, I see DET as the most likely destination if he signs outright. The real question would be who, if anyone, looks into SNT possibilities with him - then things could get very interesting...

theatlfan wrote:Still thinking that ATL is still the most likely landing spot - maybe on a 1-year deal. After that, I see DET as the most likely destination if he signs outright. The real question would be who, if anyone, looks into SNT possibilities with him - then things could get very interesting...

I would be really really really shocked if he signed a 1 year deal.