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Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:37 pm
by franktony
Honestly the big mistake was not trading T-Rob. I don't even think he is better than Patterson tbh. The huge mistake was drafting T-Rob instead of Drummond, Barnes or Lillard. T-Rob is basically a poor's man Hickson.

The Kings organization screwed up big time in the past 2 drafts.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:03 pm
by x-
HAHAHAHAHHAHHA!

:wizard:

(Sorry Kings fans.)

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:16 pm
by RoyalWun
franktony wrote:Honestly the big mistake was not trading T-Rob. I don't even think he is better than Patterson tbh. The huge mistake was drafting T-Rob instead of Drummond, Barnes or Lillard. T-Rob is basically a poor's man Hickson.

The Kings organization screwed up big time in the past 2 drafts.


But the argument people are making is that he's only in his rookie season and BARELY gotten a chance to play. Everyone knows the more opportunity you get = the faster you improve.

He's only gotten more than 25 minutes 6 times in the whole year so far. And 4/6 of those games he's scored over 10 points. I know that may not be breathtaking stats, but he's shown to be able to produce if given the opportunity. The same opportunity he has not received.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:44 pm
by franktony
RoyalWun wrote:
franktony wrote:Honestly the big mistake was not trading T-Rob. I don't even think he is better than Patterson tbh. The huge mistake was drafting T-Rob instead of Drummond, Barnes or Lillard. T-Rob is basically a poor's man Hickson.

The Kings organization screwed up big time in the past 2 drafts.


But the argument people are making is that he's only in his rookie season and BARELY gotten a chance to play. Everyone knows the more opportunity you get = the faster you improve.

He's only gotten more than 25 minutes 6 times in the whole year so far. And 4/6 of those games he's scored over 10 points. I know that may not be breathtaking stats, but he's shown to be able to produce if given the opportunity. The same opportunity he has not received.


I don't disagree with you that the Kings organization is a mess. Look at what happened with JJ Hickson. They traded Omri and a 1st round pick for him just to waive him in a few months. The same Hickson is producing good numbers in Portland.
People are overreacting because T-Rob was a top 5 pick in the past draft, not because of his ceiling or skills.

I could be wrong, but I don't see anything special in Robinson. Never did. His absolutely ceiling is Hickson. To me, Houston has better prospects to develop at the position. Moutie, for example, has a much higher ceiling than T-Rob.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:26 pm
by gswhoops
Morey strikes again.

T-Rob may not have lit it up so far but he hasn't really had an opportunity either. There's a reason he was the #5 overall pick (and in discussions to go as high as #2 IIRC). Can't believe the Kings are willing to give up on him so early but their loss is the Rockets' gain. Lin/Harden/Parsons/Robinson/Asik is a great lineup IMO.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:48 pm
by RIPskaterdude
This is what happens when you don't work out any of the players in the top 5, then just pick one based on what you saw in college. No wonder no one wants to come to Sacramento...

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:49 pm
by Krodis
This is the Rockets buying really low on Robinson, and not really giving up all that much to do it.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:03 pm
by ILOVEIT
Robinson is an energy crash the offensive boards type of player.....He'll likely do well with guys like Lynn and the Beard dishing him lobs. Good players are often considered bad players because the system they are in stinks...

I would not be surprised if Robinson busts out as a rocket.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:42 pm
by scottyg
why dont the rockets turn and trade all them players for josh smith?
francisco garcia, thomas robinson, terrance jones or royce white and a 1st for josh smith?

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:44 pm
by Sasaki
scottyg wrote:why dont the rockets turn and trade all them players for josh smith?
francisco garcia, thomas robinson, terrance jones or royce white and a 1st for josh smith?

We can't because the logistics of the trade (physicals, reporting with the team) won't be finished by the deadline, and besides, why trade those guys when we could pick up Smith in free agency?

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:24 pm
by NashtyNas
CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:I should be allowed to vote for Houston 20 times.


Yeah, definitely.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:17 pm
by old rem
Blazinaway wrote:Kings ineptness at drafting and trading reaching new heights, surprised they did this with a sale imminent


Hard to explain or justify. i guess they think that they can't coach up a talent themselves,so need to trade potential for someone a bit more developed. Strange they even threw in a rd 2 when they got the short end without that.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:48 pm
by Dr Positivity
I think Pat will have a better career than Robinson, but this is still horrid as TRob would've had trade value.

I love how the Zorro sign of a horrible trade is the ripped off team throwing a 2nd. :lol:

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:20 am
by RIPskaterdude
The Kings could have at least used T-Rob to trade away a bad contract, like Salmons, or used him and Evans together to get a quality star back. Ugh.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:20 am
by jarryd3107
Robinson is under no pressure in Houston, he'll be fine. He gets after it, brings good energy. He'll also benefit from playing next to Asik who can bail him out on defense against better PFs.

Houston also pick-up an above-average perimeter defender in Garcia, which has been an issue for their second unit.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:21 am
by Fattz
Sasaki wrote:
scottyg wrote:why dont the rockets turn and trade all them players for josh smith?
francisco garcia, thomas robinson, terrance jones or royce white and a 1st for josh smith?

We can't because the logistics of the trade (physicals, reporting with the team) won't be finished by the deadline, and besides, why trade those guys when we could pick up Smith in free agency?

Wow smart teams just wait when they now they can just buy the player they want in the off season. (it was time to punch Patterson's ticket out :wink: ) I had no idea that Rodinson was the answer much better (more upside) than Lopez. I see him getting time as a back-up center for the rest of this season though. We will still make the play-offs because of the pace we play at. Morris for a 2nd round - I thought it would have been Defino - I was wrong. That is way DM is the GM - better player & better pick :D

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:28 am
by Laowai
T-Rob is trash and should never been a top 5 pick little less top 20.
He played behind the Morris twins who are both trash enough said.

Re: Official: Rockets trade for Thomas Robinson

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:08 pm
by Golabki
jarryd3107 wrote:Robinson is under no pressure in Houston, he'll be fine. He gets after it, brings good energy. He'll also benefit from playing next to Asik who can bail him out on defense against better PFs.

Houston also pick-up an above-average perimeter defender in Garcia, which has been an issue for their second unit.
I don't think T. Rob is going to play next to Asik. In Houston's system they like open up the lane, by bring Asik out on the high screen and playing PF who can hit a 10-15 fter if there man leaves to help. T-Rob can't do that now, and may never be able to.

I think T. Rob fits in as a back-up center... he's a bit undersized, but he brings good rebounding, athleticism and energy... of course so does Greg Smith (who is only a few months older than Robinson).

I wonder if Morey think T. Rob is a long-term fit for Houston, or if this is a asset accumulation move.

Also, Garcia isn't above average at anything, but he is a swing man with a brain is his head... so he may get minutes for Houston.