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Official: Redick to Bucks

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Who won the trade

Milwaukee
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34%
Orlando
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39%
Both
5
12%
Neither
4
10%
Philadelphia?
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5%
 
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby jarryd3107 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:24 pm

^^^

Orlando, by rights, shouldn't have got anything close to that for him, given he is an upcoming FA. Indy got Barbosa for a late-2nd last year and I can't fathom how Redick's value is that much higher.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby The Rebel on Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:16 pm

jarryd3107 wrote:^^^

Orlando, by rights, shouldn't have got anything close to that for him, given he is an upcoming FA. Indy got Barbosa for a late-2nd last year and I can't fathom how Redick's value is that much higher.


You mean other then the fact that barbosa is out for the season?
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby jarryd3107 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:47 pm

The Rebel wrote:
jarryd3107 wrote:^^^

Orlando, by rights, shouldn't have got anything close to that for him, given he is an upcoming FA. Indy got Barbosa for a late-2nd last year and I can't fathom how Redick's value is that much higher.


You mean other then the fact that barbosa is out for the season?


Yes, I thought it was clear I was comparing the Barbosa-Indiana trade last year to the Redick-Bucks trade this year.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby FireNellieQuick on Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:58 pm

Because Redick is much, much better than Barbosa?

Milwaukee gets a steal talent-wise, and Redick should fit in with Jennings well. He's a bit older but should be a solid, steadying presence for the Bucks. ORL gets one prospect worth mentioning, but its better than nothing. Like it for both teams

JJ remains a very underrated player.. @ .590 TS% and a 2:1
Ast/to ratio. Scoring 15 pts per and 4.5 assists per, so its not in minimal playing time either.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby BossHoggin on Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:19 pm

Bucks focusing on locking down that first round exit vs the Heat. 4-0 sweep. Best trade of the day sadly.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby Baddy Chuck on Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:26 am

Pretty dumb trade. We could get the 8th seed without him and we have the cap to get him in the offseason. I think Tobes will show well in Orlando, you guys will like him.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby MagicFan32 on Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:04 am

yeah everyone said the magic got a buncha scrubs for dwight howard to, henny knows what he's doing
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby Prospect Dong on Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:20 am

Orlando got 3 intriguing young players for a one-dimensional FA-to-be, a back-up PF and a 3rd-string PG.


This requires a very, very generous definition of young, and a pretty generous definition of intriguing. I'd be just as intrigued by Ayon as by Lamb, IMO.

Magic fans seemed much higher on Redick a couple of days ago: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1233902&p=34773925
"If Hickson was in this draft he would be a top 3 pick" cavs fan

"Hickson IS going to be a stud. He will be an 18/10 guy within 2 years" cavs fan

"No Cavs fan ever overrated Hickson" TheOUTLAW. After reading those quotes.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby tiderulz on Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:40 am

Prospect Dong wrote:
Orlando got 3 intriguing young players for a one-dimensional FA-to-be, a back-up PF and a 3rd-string PG.


This requires a very, very generous definition of young, and a pretty generous definition of intriguing. I'd be just as intrigued by Ayon as by Lamb, IMO.

Magic fans seemed much higher on Redick a couple of days ago: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1233902&p=34773925


generous definition of young? Harris is 20, Lamb is 21. Yes, Udrih isnt a teenager, but the 1st two are definitely young.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby Golabki on Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:33 am

tiderulz wrote:
Prospect Dong wrote:
Orlando got 3 intriguing young players for a one-dimensional FA-to-be, a back-up PF and a 3rd-string PG.


This requires a very, very generous definition of young, and a pretty generous definition of intriguing. I'd be just as intrigued by Ayon as by Lamb, IMO.

Magic fans seemed much higher on Redick a couple of days ago: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1233902&p=34773925


generous definition of young? Harris is 20, Lamb is 21. Yes, Udrih isnt a teenager, but the 1st two are definitely young.
Lamb isn't interesting though. Given a choice between the 60th pick in the draft and D. Lamb... I'd take the pick.

Harris is a viable asset, you could probably get a late 1st for him on draft day if you wanted to.

I think there's just some confusion from non-Orlando fans who read the thread (link above), and heard Orlando fans pooping on a proposed package that was arguably better than what they got.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby GhostX on Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:03 am

Hammond shoulda kept Harris and offered a 2nd + cash considerations instead
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby Prospect Dong on Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:27 am

tiderulz wrote:
Prospect Dong wrote:
Orlando got 3 intriguing young players for a one-dimensional FA-to-be, a back-up PF and a 3rd-string PG.


This requires a very, very generous definition of young, and a pretty generous definition of intriguing. I'd be just as intrigued by Ayon as by Lamb, IMO.

Magic fans seemed much higher on Redick a couple of days ago: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1233902&p=34773925


generous definition of young? Harris is 20, Lamb is 21. Yes, Udrih isnt a teenager, but the 1st two are definitely young.


Sure, two young players, and one intriguing one. Maybe two young and two intruiging, if you're being generous. But not:

3 intriguing young players


Hence my (pretty self-explanatory) correction.
"If Hickson was in this draft he would be a top 3 pick" cavs fan

"Hickson IS going to be a stud. He will be an 18/10 guy within 2 years" cavs fan

"No Cavs fan ever overrated Hickson" TheOUTLAW. After reading those quotes.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby tiderulz on Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:39 pm

Golabki wrote:
tiderulz wrote:generous definition of young? Harris is 20, Lamb is 21. Yes, Udrih isnt a teenager, but the 1st two are definitely young.
Lamb isn't interesting though. Given a choice between the 60th pick in the draft and D. Lamb... I'd take the pick.

Harris is a viable asset, you could probably get a late 1st for him on draft day if you wanted to.

I think there's just some confusion from non-Orlando fans who read the thread (link above), and heard Orlando fans pooping on a proposed package that was arguably better than what they got.


so Lamb has half a year in the league under a coach not known for really playing youth and he isnt good? possibly i guess, but easily someone worth a flyer on. Maybe he develops with Orlando. Vucevic didnt look like he does now with Philly last year.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby Golabki on Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:57 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Golabki wrote:
tiderulz wrote:generous definition of young? Harris is 20, Lamb is 21. Yes, Udrih isnt a teenager, but the 1st two are definitely young.
Lamb isn't interesting though. Given a choice between the 60th pick in the draft and D. Lamb... I'd take the pick.

Harris is a viable asset, you could probably get a late 1st for him on draft day if you wanted to.

I think there's just some confusion from non-Orlando fans who read the thread (link above), and heard Orlando fans pooping on a proposed package that was arguably better than what they got.


so Lamb has half a year in the league under a coach not known for really playing youth and he isnt good? possibly i guess, but easily someone worth a flyer on. Maybe he develops with Orlando. Vucevic didnt look like he does now with Philly last year.

Well... we're talking about a mid-second rounder, who hasn't looked effective in the NBA or the NBDL. You'd be lucky to get a late 2nd for him. His value is a close to zero as possible. He might become an viable NBA player, but there are equally "interesting" players with no NBA contract.

...given a choice between Lamb and Jerel McNeal for my 15 roster spot, I'd take McNeal.
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Re: Official: Redick to Bucks

Postby Gomagic44 on Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:59 pm

buckboy wrote:^^

That seems to be the Bucks plan. Spend a ton of money to be average. It's wonderful being a Bucks fan.

In this deal, I think you're overvaluing what Milwaukee gave up. Harris has a chance to be a rotation player. Udrih is useful in a different settting (3rd string emergency point guard on a good team). Lamb is garbage.

I'd be surprised if anyone Orlando got became a good player for them.


I have no hostility for the bucks. However, you are wholly overestimating what we gave the bucks. Ish is damn quick, but he blows. Ayon is atrocious. JJ is a great
Player IMHO and I'm not bein a homer. He works his tail off day in day out. Always improving.

The bucks roster confuses me so I don't know how he will
Fit, but I happily take the young and unplayed players you gave us.

Orlando wins. We avoided an awkward situation in the offseason with having to resign or match offers for reddick, while continuing the tank and getting rid of what we already know are players who don't fit. I may be delusional but we will win a chip before Charlotte or Milwaukee. And this trade helped us in Our rebuild to do so.
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