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Post#1 Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:33 pm by HartfordWhalers

Who was it?

Josh Smith?
Bargs?
Mozgov?
Wilson Chandler?
Monta Ellis?
Philly expirers -- Wright and Young
Sac other rookie players -- Evans and Cousins
Dwight Howard?

If we get a bunch of other names I will add a poll. Me, I'm leaning Mozgov. And Wes Johnson from Phoenix as salary filler for anything.
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Post#2 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:36 pm by Wasabi_Johnson

I would say Smith. They essentially letting him walk for nothing since they say they won't pay him the max. Really didn't expect anybody else to be move who was listed unless they was traded as part of a Josh Smith deal.
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Post#3 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:37 pm by WizardsWorld

Smith obviously. Everyone already wished him goodbye last night after the game.... and today they'll be welcoming him back.... LOL
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Post#4 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:47 pm by Cliff Levingston

Smith for sure. If Atlanta really is interested in letting him walk, couldn't they have at least got a future 1st and some salary filler for him? Not much, sure, but something.
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Post#5 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:48 pm by teke184

Smith is an easy choice.

Atlanta wanted too much and blew whatever chances they had of getting something for him.
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Post#6 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:52 pm by Trader_Joe

I thought for sure Smith was heading to the Bucks... or Rockets... or Suns... or Nets... or Washington ... or...
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Post#7 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:55 pm by vege

I would add Will Bynum to that list.

Josh Smith not being traded was a huge shock what is Atlanta thinking.
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Post#8 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:59 pm by parson

Hawks wanted a good Center or ... well, that's it. Nothing else y'all were willing to offer mattered. We told BKN we wanted Lopez; we told MIL we wanted Sanders; we told HOU we wanted Asik.

Why is everyone surprised? Haven't we been saying this for years? A Center is all that makes sense for us in a Josh Smith trade -- or draft picks that can be turned into a Center.

It'd be better for us to wait until the offseason and use Smith to try for Dwight Howard, or overpay for Pekovic or Jefferson, or SNT Smith to HOU for Asik and Parsons to help them get Howard than it would be for us to settle on what y'all thought was "reasonable." ATL has a premiere talent in Josh Smith, is first in line to re-sign him and is sitting on enough cash to sign 2 max FAs, even if Smith walks. I fail to see the reason for the consternation.
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Post#9 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:10 pm by [RCG]

Any player on an expiring deal not likely to be brought back or RFA who won't be matched.
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Post#10 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:28 pm by shrink

Smith.

I'm a bit surprised we didn't see Milsap go somewhere too.
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Post#11 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:39 pm by darkangle901

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Post#12 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:40 pm by Lindecision

has to be Millsap for me, he's a better player than Josh

does anyone know when Redick is elligable for the Bucks?
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Post#13 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:44 pm by DusterBuster

I think people were dooped by all the talk surrounding Smith. It was pretty clear the Hawks were never going to get the value they wanted for him.

The Jazz not making a move is more surprising imo. They're going to end up losing Millsap and Jefferson for nothing this summer, just so they can get a 6th seed and be swept in the 1st round. The way they've "rebuilt" since trading Williams has been pretty asinine if you ask me.
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Post#14 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:50 pm by Sun Scorched

I don't understand the whole "Hawks weren't getting the value they wanted" nonsense.

Yeah, they aren't going to get Gortat + Dudley + 1st for him, but they could have gotten Gortat... Which is better than nothing.

What are they hoping for now? A S&T?
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Post#15 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:52 pm by deanwoof

smith, milsap, jefferson first. then jameer nelson or al harrington NOT being packaged with redick. spurs not tinkering. and josh smith again.
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Post#16 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:59 pm by DusterBuster

Sun Scorched wrote:I don't understand the whole "Hawks weren't getting the value they wanted" nonsense.


How exactly is it "nonsense"? If they would have gotten the value they wanted for him, Smith wouldn't still be in Atlanta right now. He is, so obviously no one offered Atlanta they value they wanted to pull the trigger on a deal. Pretty basic logic here.......
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Post#17 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:06 pm by Guy986

Utah didn't move any of their bigs??
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Post#18 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:14 pm by DusterBuster

Guy986 wrote:Utah didn't move any of their bigs??


they didn't move anything.
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Post#19 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:42 pm by Lindecision

DusterBuster wrote:I think people were dooped by all the talk surrounding Smith. It was pretty clear the Hawks were never going to get the value they wanted for him.


perhaps Atlanta can get value (and the C they want) in a S&T for Asik + filler... could that be their line of thinking?

this does depend on Houston signing Dwight as a free agent though, Josh would then be willing to sign for less money

then by dealing Asik's salary Houston would have enough cap room to keep Parsons long term, actually i'm only presuming they have enough cap room
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Post#20 Re: Biggest Surprise Not traded?
Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:44 pm by theatlfan

Sun Scorched wrote:I don't understand the whole "Hawks weren't getting the value they wanted" nonsense.

Yeah, they aren't going to get Gortat + Dudley + 1st for him, but they could have gotten Gortat... Which is better than nothing.

What are they hoping for now? A S&T?
Nonsense is what you suggest though. In the NBA, it's better to be dreadful than mediocre, and one sure way to be mediocre is to trade better talent for less simply in the name of getting something. Do you honestly believe that CLE would have been better off today than if they had traded LeBron for a mid-tier starting C a few years ago?

Honestly, I've always figured this one would go to FA. I think our hope would be that we'd re-sign him to a reasonable deal once he sees the market, then SNT him. Failing those options, I'm not really sure what the next stage would be though. With the CBA the way it is, you can't really go on a full scale rebuilding effort since you have to carry a minimum salary or run into the same issues with those at the LT threshold. Should be interesting to see where this goes if this route is taken.
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