Dallas Mavericks Cap Space

[HotrodBeaubois]

I seriously did not intend to derail this discussion, but I feel it needed to be said. Dallas is spinning its wheels. Loyalty is one thing, but if you were Nowitzki, with which core would you want to spend the last 2-3 years of your career vying for a ring:

-- Rose, Butler, Mirotic and Noah
-- Harden, Parsons and Howard
-- Calderón, Ellis and, for example, Deng

I'm even being optimistic for the air of the argument, that Dallas would land Luol, when do many other teams have money to pursue so few impact FA's this summer. Dirk is younger than Duncan and Garnett were when they took their last deals, and is still HIGHLY coveted around the league. IMO, Cuban is not foolish enough to let him walk by under-bidding. But if he does, Dirk will depart, and I say good for him.

I'm sure Dirk is jumping through hoops and really looking forward to leave Dallas for Chicago to play with

Rose who has played 49 games in 2 years . Just 10 games this season
Mirotic who hasn't played 1 NBA minute yet ..


Dirk is not leaving Dallas to play for Chicago or Houston ...

[HotrodBeaubois]

Real Cap Space


1-Ellington + Mekel + $3 Million cash trade for Cap Space


2-Dalembert traded for a draft pick late 1st or early 2nd


3-Dirk Re-signed 3 years $30,000,000 ( 1st year salary $9.3 Million + 7.5% Raises )


4-Harris Re-signed 3 years $9 Million


Calderon -7,097,000
Dirk -9,300,000
Ellis -8,360,000
Larkin -1,606,000
Ledo -816,000
Crowder-916,000
Wright-5,000,000
Boston 2nd rd Pick -491,000
Dallas 2nd rd Pick -491,000
Harris -3,000,000


$37,077,000


$26,123,000 In Cap Space or enough to sign 2 $13 Million players and Carter for the $2.7 Million Room exception

[HotrodBeaubois]

Real Cap Space


1-Ellington + Mekel + $3 Million cash trade for Cap Space


2-Dalembert traded for a draft pick late 1st or early 2nd


3-Dirk Re-signed 3 years $30,000,000 ( 1st year salary $9.3 Million + 7.5% Raises )


4-Trade Calderon + multiple 1st rd picks for pure cap space



Dirk -9,300,000
Ellis -8,360,000
Larkin -1,606,000
Ledo -816,000
Crowder-916,000
Wright-5,000,000
Boston 2nd rd Pick -491,000
Dallas 2nd rd Pick -491,000
1 Cap hold -491,000



$27,471,000



$35,729,000 in Cap Space or enough to sign 3 players @ $11,909,000 each


Lowry-11,909,000
Gortat-11,909,000
Deng-11,909,000
Harris -$2.7 Million Room exception
Carter Vet Min
Anthony Tolliver Vet Min


PG-Lowry / Harris / Larkin
SG-Ellis / Carter / Ledo
SF-Deng / Crowder / Vet Min
PF-Dirk / Tolliver / Boston Pick
C-Gortat / Wright / Dallas Pick

[HotrodBeaubois]

Even better if Dallas can get 1 of Cleveland / Washington / Toronto to agree to a sign and trade for Calderon + Mekel + $3 Million + Picks.. Calderon doesnt have to end up with any of those 3 teams .


By doing the sign and trade you are keeping Calderon + Mekel salaries while also not needing to account for a cap hold . Leaving you with $28,307,000 in cap space


Say the Sign and trade is for Deng $11,969,000



1-$28,307,000 in cap space . You could sign Monroe for $14 Million and Lowry $12.0 Million while giving Carter $2.3 Million .


2-$28,307,000 in cap space . Harris gets $3 Million , Carter gets $2.7 Million Room exception , Lowry and Gortat get $12 Million . With the left over $1.3 Million that can go to Dirk

[Smitty731]

I don't see anyone giving a 1st for Dalembert, even a late one. That is just me. Maybe in season if they are one piece away, I could see a team making that deal. Not in the offseason though.

[avon barksdale]

I don't see anyone giving a 1st for Dalembert, even a late one. That is just me. Maybe in season if they are one piece away, I could see a team making that deal. Not in the offseason though.

A first for dally ain't happening he's a reasonable contract and is a quality backup big

[HotrodBeaubois]

My theory on Dalembert getting a 1st


It would be something like this . Dalembert + Dallas 2nd Rd + Memphis 2016 2nd Rd Pick for a 20-30 1st rd pick


I could see Okc doing this for the 21st Pick . Why ? Okc if they amnesty Perkins could use a good cheap Center and may rather pay Dalembert $3.8 Million instead of a draft pick $1.2 Million

Its really doesn't matter what we get for Dalembert . Just stating that we wouldn't have to give up anything with him if we wanted his cap space ..

I know several people here don't want to get rid of Dalembert . But look at it this way say Dallas has $20 Million to get a Center and Small Forward . Do you really think $10 Million each will get it done ? I don't but by dumping Dalembert you could then offer $11.9 Million to 2 free agents . That might be enough to convince Gortat and Deng .

[avon barksdale]

It's much better cap wise and roster wise to dump Ellington (not playing) and Wright(unnecessary luxury)than to dump sam

[HotrodBeaubois]

I don't see anyone giving a 1st for Dalembert, even a late one. That is just me. Maybe in season if they are one piece away, I could see a team making that deal. Not in the offseason though.

A first for dally ain't happening he's a reasonable contract and is a quality backup big

OKC - #22 or #29
Houston - #25
Phoenix - #27

I think any of these 3 could be possibilities


1-OKC even after amnestying Perkins they still wont have much if any cap space to sign another Center . The do have a $6.5 Million Trade exception that they could use to get Dalembert


2-Houston depending if they can get rid of Asik . If so then they could use a cheap reliable backup Center . And one that does not hurt their 2015 cap space

3-Phoenix less of a need here . It comes down to if they can use Dalembert . As for the pick if they don't use it to trade up I don't see them drafting 3 players

[HotrodBeaubois]

It's much better cap wise and roster wise to dump Ellington (not playing) and Wright(unnecessary luxury)than to dump sam

I disagree ... Ellington yes but there is no way that you can tell me Dalembert is the better backup Center


Wright already knows and plays his role off the bench and helps us have a Top 5 Bench . Dalembert at 33 years old may fall off a cliff this summer , or may just not like his role .


Harris and Carter already play excellent with Wright . How will they play with Dalembert ?


I believe Dalembert will be the unnecessary luxury when we sign a 30 MPG Center . The Mavs will be fine with pick your starter ? Gortat / Monroe / Gasol to go with Wright for 18 MPG with another Vet Min or 2nd Rd Pick Center as the third string

[avon barksdale]

Dalembert is a much better center than Wright who isn't even a center all Wright can do is catch lobs he has no range cant rebound or defend and hes injury prone and who cares about his fit with Harris and Carter both of whom probably wont be here next year anyway

[HotrodBeaubois]

27 year old Wright 18.6 MPG 9.1 PPG 4.2 RPG 0.9 BPG 23.60 PER 1.26 RPM 2.33 WAR



33 year old Dalembert 20.2 MPG 6.6 PPG 6.8 RPG 1.2 BPG 16.88 PER -0.43 RPM 1.92 WAR

[HotrodBeaubois]

Dalembert is a much better center than Wright who isn't even a center all Wright can do is catch lobs he has no range cant rebound or defend and hes injury prone and who cares about his fit with Harris and Carter both of whom probably wont be here next year anyway

1-Both Harris and Carter are most likely here next year
2-Dalembert is declining and will continue to decline
3-How motivated will Dalembert be next year at 33 years old coming off the bench ?
4-Wright is great playing Center off the bench
5-Wright plays great off the bench with Harris and Wright and all 3 most likely will be here next year
6-Wright will be 27 years old and has improved and continue to improve while Dalembert will continue to decline .


27 year old Wright 18.6 MPG 9.1 PPG 4.2 RPG 0.9 BPG 23.60 PER 1.26 RPM 2.33 WAR



33 year old Dalembert 20.2 MPG 6.6 PPG 6.8 RPG 1.2 BPG 16.88 PER -0.43 RPM 1.92 WAR

[HotrodBeaubois]

6-6 or 5-7 .500 or .417 Win % with Dalembert off the Bench ( Only was able to find 11 games where Dalembert came off the bench he was 5-6 in those games . somehere there is 1 other game )


36-22 .621 Win % with Wright off the Bench

[HotrodBeaubois]

The numbers Smitty has posted don't seem to be realistic ... I think it will be something more like this .



Renounce Dirk / Carter / Blair / Harris / Marion = $31,948,918 in Cap Space includes the cap holds of both 2nd Round Picks so could rise by $491,000 if they decide to unguarantee #51 or dont evn keep that pick .


Wright / Ellington / Mekel most likely traded for Cap space $8,585,822 ( $40,536,740 in Cap space )


Dirk $10 Million or even less
Harris $3 Million
Carter $2.7 Million Room exception ( Doesnt count against cap space )
Marion walks


Leaves $27,536,740 in Cap space ( If Wright / Ellington / Mekel Dumped )


Ellington / Wright / Mekel / Picks could also be traded for a player $12.9 Million ( James could also be added for any amount up to $5.3 Million to match salaries while lowering the Cap space by $915,000 )


If Ellington / Wright / Mekel / Picks are traded for a player that leaves $18,948,918

[HotrodBeaubois]

I seriously did not intend to derail this discussion, but I feel it needed to be said. Dallas is spinning its wheels. Loyalty is one thing, but if you were Nowitzki, with which core would you want to spend the last 2-3 years of your career vying for a ring:

-- Rose, Butler, Mirotic and Noah
-- Harden, Parsons and Howard
-- Calderón, Ellis and, for example, Deng

I'm even being optimistic for the air of the argument, that Dallas would land Luol, when do many other teams have money to pursue so few impact FA's this summer. Dirk is younger than Duncan and Garnett were when they took their last deals, and is still HIGHLY coveted around the league. IMO, Cuban is not foolish enough to let him walk by under-bidding. But if he does, Dirk will depart, and I say good for him.

Pretty Easy decision if you ask me ...

1-Harden, Parsons and Howard--- Dirk would never leave Dallas to play with these losers ,,,You can book that .
2-Rose, Butler, Mirotic and Noah---Talk about being optimistic .. No way Dirk leaves Dallas to go to Chicago based on Rose returning to form after playing in just 49 of the last 230 games


Dirk will be in Dallas next year 100% Sure !!! And its going to take a lot more than Houston or Chicago for him to even remotely consider it .

[Hook_Em]

Their outlook is pretty bleak. Hayward might be a nice fit.

[HotrodBeaubois]

Their outlook is pretty bleak. Hayward might be a nice fit.

Bleak ?

49 Win team and $21 Million in cap space ( $29.5 Million if Wright / Ellington / Mekel moved ) after re-signing Dirk ( $10 Million ) to replace Marion and Dalembert in the starting lineup . $29.5 Million and they could easily overpay and steal both Gortat / Ariza while still having the money to bring back Marion / Carter / Harris


PG-Calderon / Harris / Larkin
SG-Ellis / Carter / Ledo
SF-Ariza / Marion / Crowder
PF-Dirk / Marion / Vet Min / Dallas 2nd
C-Gortat / Dalembert / Boston 2nd


If this years Roster wins 49 Games the roster above wins 55-60 easily

[Hook_Em]

Their outlook is pretty bleak. Hayward might be a nice fit.

Bleak ?

49 Win team and $21 Million in cap space ( $29.5 Million if Wright / Ellington / Mekel moved ) after re-signing Dirk ( $10 Million ) to replace Marion and Dalembert in the starting lineup . $29.5 Million and they could easily overpay and steal both Gortat / Ariza while still having the money to bring back Marion / Carter / Harris


PG-Calderon / Harris / Larkin
SG-Ellis / Carter / Ledo
SF-Ariza / Marion / Crowder
PF-Dirk / Marion / Vet Min / Dallas 2nd
C-Gortat / Dalembert / Boston 2nd


If this years Roster wins 49 Games the roster above wins 55-60 easily

36 year old Dirk surrounded by journeyman will result in another 7-8 seed at best. Not hating, i like the Mavs.

[the_process]

What he's trying to say is there no obvious way for Dallas to acquire another superstar, seeing as how they have been shunned in back to back off seasons by free agents. Their best hope is that MIA loses in the finals and Bosh decides he needs to get paid and be the man again. So he comes home. I think there's a decent chance of that. Less than 50/50 but greater than 25/75. Assuming they max him out and renounce everyone, they have 6 mill give or take to play with before re-signing Dirk and using their exceptions in that scenario.