Cavaliers GM says

Saul Goodman · Post #21 » by **Saul Goodman** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:45 am

Amir Johnson for Tristan Thompson?

mademan · Post #22 » by **mademan** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:06 am

donaldduck wrote:Mozgov/Foye to Cleveland, Waiters to a 3rd team and Denver will take the picks.

This is the type of trade CLE should be looking for. I'm not sure which team will surrender a 1st for Waiters though. If it wasn't for his knucklehead ways, I would advocate the Raps throwing a 1st for him.

pcbothwel · Post #23 » by **pcbothwel** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:36 am

Kevin Seraphin for Brendan Haywood

Post #24 » by **bondom34** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:17 am

RSCD3_ wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I think it means "Dion, I don't care that you have the same agent."

That's actually tristian who has the same agent as LeBron

And Thompson is the one eligible for RFA at the end of the summer

So dion waiters won't be much of an issue unless they want to extend

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My bad, still think Waiters is odd man out though.

NBADraft2003 · Post #25 » by **NBADraft2003** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:46 am

Cklbmk wrote:
NBADraft2003 wrote::o

LeBron for Deng and fillers...

I'd lol

They'd both be crying so hard

Sofia · Post #26 » by **Sofia** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:52 am

Kobe for Lebron and picks

AMIRITE

AussieBuck · Post #27 » by **AussieBuck** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:31 am

Saul Goodman wrote:Amir Johnson for Tristan Thompson?

WAT?

Darren_Errman · Post #28 » by **Darren_Errman** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:57 am

californiadude wrote:Klay Thompson and David Lee for Kevin Love and Dion Waters and first....Oh wait the W's already said no to that

GS made the correct non-move.

Klay is better than Love on both ends of the court.

Hendrix · Post #29 » by **Hendrix** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:59 am

I call Lebron

Notanoob · Post #30 » by **Notanoob** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:42 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:Amir Johnson for Tristan Thompson?

Why would you want to do that? Amir is a better player than TT on both ends of the court- he spaces the floor on offense and is a good defender who can shift up to play C. TT is a garbage man.

tidho · Post #31 » by **tidho** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:03 pm

The Penguin wrote:He's going to trade Lebron to the Sixers, Gilbert's ultimate revenge.

Doesn't make sense until LeBron signs an extension.

No one is untouchable is just GM speak. Clearly they won't move LeBron. I think anyone else could be moved though. I think the statement is probably just a reminder to the league that the Cavaliers will take calls.

HornetJail · Post #32 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:22 pm

Seems like the right time to make a move for Wiggins+Bennett+pick

Dat2U · Post #33 » by **Dat2U** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:40 pm

Domejandro wrote:
Cklbmk wrote:I wonder if Minny would have taken Irving/Bennett for Love instead of Wiggins.

Would Waiters/Wiggins/Lebron/Love/Varejao

Have Waiters play PG. He can defend most.

We would have puked at that offer and accepted Golden State's instead.

This is clearly directed at Dion Waiters, it is silly to hypothesize otherwise. If they were smart they would dump Kyrie for any solid Point Guard like I suggested before the season - and got filleted for it - but they likely will not.

Waiters isn't really the problem. It's Kyrie's defense. Guys are getting dribble penetration at will which causes breakdowns all around. It doesn't help either that Love is not a guy that effectively challenges shots. Offensively the Cavs will be fine. Defensively they need to either get Kyrie defending at a passable level or they may need to look at potential trades.

RSCD3_ · Post #34 » by **RSCD3_** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:42 pm

Dat2U wrote:
Domejandro wrote:
Cklbmk wrote:I wonder if Minny would have taken Irving/Bennett for Love instead of Wiggins.

Would Waiters/Wiggins/Lebron/Love/Varejao

Have Waiters play PG. He can defend most.

We would have puked at that offer and accepted Golden State's instead.

This is clearly directed at Dion Waiters, it is silly to hypothesize otherwise. If they were smart they would dump Kyrie for any solid Point Guard like I suggested before the season - and got filleted for it - but they likely will not.

Waiters isn't really the problem. It's Kyrie's defense. Guys are getting dribble penetration at will which causes breakdowns all around. It doesn't help either that Love is not a guy that effectively challenges shots. Offensively the Cavs will be fine. Defensively they need to either get Kyrie defending at a passable level or they may need to look at potential trades.

Kyrie has been more effective and consistent on the defensive end

For all waiters talk he is putting in the least effort of anyone on the team

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LApwnd · Post #35 » by **LApwnd** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:28 pm

bondom34 wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Who wants Waiters is the question to me.

we'll take him for Wes/future 1st

Should clarify:

Who wants Waiters and has anything the Cavs may be interested in?

what?!? you didn't see that shut down D Wes played on Harden last night :lol:

Dat2U · Post #36 » by **Dat2U** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:41 pm

RSCD3_ wrote:
Kyrie has been more effective and consistent on the defensive end

For all waiters talk he is putting in the least effort of anyone on the team

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Kyrie was hands down one of the worst perimeter defenders in recent NBA history and what I'm saying is not hyperbole. Slight improvement from him on that end simply raises the bar from historically bad to horrifically bad. I'm not sure if were looking at the same games because dribble penetration from the guard spot seems to be the Cavs achilles heel right now.

tidho · Post #37 » by **tidho** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:50 pm

RSCD3_ wrote:Kyrie has been more effective and consistent on the defensive end

For all waiters talk he is putting in the least effort of anyone on the team

This is simply not true. LeBron generally puts in the least defensive effort on the team. He won't even try to move his feet to help defensively - ever. His effort man-on is spotty, his effort in help is non existant.

Irving is certainly the guy most often getting beaten ultra quickly too. So quickly the defense (those that try) can't even rotate to help.

Post #38 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:58 pm

Denver out: Mozgov, Foye

Denver in: Payne, Bazemore, ATL top 20 protected 1st

ATL out: Bazemore, Payne, ATL top 20 protected 1st

ATL in: Waiters

CLE out: Waiters

CLE in: Mozgov/Foye

donaldduck · Post #39 » by **donaldduck** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:28 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Denver out: Mozgov, Foye

Denver in: Payne, Bazemore, ATL top 20 protected 1st

ATL out: Bazemore, Payne, ATL top 20 protected 1st

ATL in: Waiters

CLE out: Waiters

CLE in: Mozgov/Foye

I'll take Dennis Schröder.

Narf · Post #40 » by **Narf** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:20 am

Personally I think it's Irving. Who they'd take back for him is beyond me.