ATL/LAL Draft Night

Laimbeer · Post #1 » by **Laimbeer** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:32 am

Schroder and #9 for #4 and #24

Lakers get their point guard while Hawks deal depth to move up in the draft

Dr Aki · Post #2 » by **Dr Aki** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:26 am

Bentley1225 · Post #3 » by **Bentley1225** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:38 pm

Lakers have the cap room to sign a starting PG without downgrading their draft pick.

Only way I see Lakers trading #4 is for a legit starting PG on a reasonable contract like Ty Lawson.

DanishLakerFan · Post #4 » by **DanishLakerFan** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:12 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Schroder and #9 for #4 and #24

Lakers get their point guard while Hawks deal depth to move up in the draft

We'd be giving up way too much, i think. The #4 could land us Mudiay, Russell, Towns or Okafor which all are top tier talents, so i'd want a lot more than 9th + Schroeder, much less give up the #24. Regarding a PG for the future, i think there are guys to be had with the #Hou pick - Delon Wright, Tyus Jones, Grant, Rozier etc. - or in free agency, so this is a big NO, imo.

If we land the #5 pick, i'd be open to moving it for the 9th + Schroeder, though.

Post #5 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:46 pm

IAMRANDYMARSH wrote:We'd be giving up way too much, i think. The #4 could land us Mudiay, Russell, Towns or Okafor which all are top tier talents, so i'd want a lot more than 9th + Schroeder, much less give up the #24. Regarding a PG for the future, i think there are guys to be had with the #Hou pick - Delon Wright, Tyus Jones, Grant, Rozier etc. - or in free agency, so this is a big NO, imo.

If we land the #5 pick, i'd be open to moving it for the 9th + Schroeder, though.

I pretty much agree with this. Right now the draft feels like it has a pretty big drop off after #4. So I can't see the Lakers being willing to do this if they land in the top 4. They need a potential franchise-changing talent with Kobe on his way out.

OTOH I can't see the Hawks wanting to do it for 5 unless they were just in love with a guy. I think Schroeder has more value than the difference between 9 and 5 plus a late 1.

azuresou1 · Post #6 » by **azuresou1** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:55 pm

No. Schroeder has more proven value than moving up from 9 to 5 and adding a probable non-contributer at 24

Post #7 » by **ATL Boy** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:38 pm

I agree with my compatriot that we wouldn't touch that deal. We really like Schroder and wouldn't use him to just trade just trade up 4 spots.

Mattya · Post #8 » by **Mattya** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:47 pm

Not a fan of either team but I wouldn't do that if I were the Lakers even if you took out the #24 pick and I like Schroder.

Michael Lucky · Post #9 » by **Michael Lucky** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:50 pm

why would the Lakers downgrade their pick for Schroeder, even more so when you consider the type of talent disparity usually found between a 4th pick and a 9th pick. Not to mention the addition of another first round pick on top.......

LApwnd · Post #10 » by **LApwnd** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:20 pm

azuresou1 wrote:No. Schroeder has more proven value than moving up from 9 to 5 and adding a probable non-contributer at 24

I don't want the trade but what has Schroeder proven? from the value standpoint, trade makes it seem like we're trading for a top 10 PG or something.

Laimbeer · Post #11 » by **Laimbeer** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:25 pm

Neither side likes it, so value is about right...

Post #12 » by **dms269** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:29 pm

LApwnd wrote:
azuresou1 wrote:No. Schroeder has more proven value than moving up from 9 to 5 and adding a probable non-contributer at 24

I don't want the trade but what has Schroeder proven? from the value standpoint, trade makes it seem like we're trading for a top 10 PG or something.

If you think you are going to get a top 10 pg and a top 10 pick for 5 (in the scenario you commented on) and a late first, then you are sadly mistaken.

LApwnd · Post #13 » by **LApwnd** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:31 pm

uga_dawgs24 wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
azuresou1 wrote:No. Schroeder has more proven value than moving up from 9 to 5 and adding a probable non-contributer at 24

I don't want the trade but what has Schroeder proven? from the value standpoint, trade makes it seem like we're trading for a top 10 PG or something.

If you think you are going to get a top 10 pg and a top 10 pick for 5 (in the scenario you commented on) and a late first, then you are sadly mistaken.

well we certainly not getting a top 10 pg in this scenario and that's fine if the value isn't there for a top 10pg but this is far as comparison to getting a top 10pg value in ref. to Schroeder and where ever he is ranked

Post #14 » by **dms269** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:34 pm

LApwnd wrote:
uga_dawgs24 wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
I don't want the trade but what has Schroeder proven? from the value standpoint, trade makes it seem like we're trading for a top 10 PG or something.

If you think you are going to get a top 10 pg and a top 10 pick for 5 (in the scenario you commented on) and a late first, then you are sadly mistaken.

well we certainly not getting a top 10 pg in this scenario and that's fine if the value isn't there for a top 10pg but this is far as comparison to getting a top 10pg value in ref. to Schroeder and where ever he is ranked

Can't imagine any teams willing to give up a top 10 pg for 5 when the value drops off significantly after 4.

atlantabbq99 · Post #15 » by **atlantabbq99** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:24 am

No, its either Schroeder for #4, or nothing at all. And still that is probably is still a no for Atlanta.

warren weel im · Post #16 » by **warren weel im** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:59 am

The Lakers are set to draft either a CE or a PG at 4, and we have Jordan Clarkson.

Hawks can keep Shroeder.

Post #17 » by **Smitty731** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:02 am

Is Schroeder's value really that high? Seems like a very high value being out on a guy who plays less than 20 MPG and has all of 7 starts in two years. Not to mention the poor shooting percentages.

azuresou1 · Post #18 » by **azuresou1** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:08 am

Averaging 18/8/4 per 36, capably runs our offense when Teague is sitting, and with exceptional quickness. No glaring holes in his game unlike many young guards.

Ball4life32 · Post #19 » by **Ball4life32** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:13 am

Michael Lucky wrote:why would the Lakers downgrade their pick for Schroeder, even more so when you consider the type of talent disparity usually found between a 4th pick and a 9th pick. Not to mention the addition of another first round pick on top.......

As a Hawks fan I would laugh the lakers off the phone. Schroder has been dominating lately and is only 21. No way in hell I am giving him up to move up 5 spots...(at least projected)

Ball4life32 · Post #20 » by **Ball4life32** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:15 am

Smitty731 wrote:Is Schroeder's value really that high? Seems like a very high value being out on a guy who plays less than 20 MPG and has all of 7 starts in two years. Not to mention the poor shooting percentages.

He's shooting 43% and up to 35% from 3 well. He's got a chance to be a star player in the league...he's been killing lately with more minutes and Hawks are undefeated when he starts. He's an elite passer as well.