A few Ideas for the Cs to Consolidate

[brackdan70]

Jared Sullinger or Kelly Olynyk, and Dallas Pick 2016 for Terrance Jones.

Evan Turner, Avery Bradley and Boston Pick 2016 for Tyreke Evans

actually just 2 ideas. all the rest seem even more foolish

[HartfordWhalers]

Jared Sullinger or Kelly Olynyk, and Dallas Pick 2016 for Terrance Jones.

Evan Turner, Avery Bradley and Boston Pick 2016 for Tyreke Evans

actually just 2 ideas. all the rest seem even more foolish

Mind adding reasons for the other teams?

(Also, I think you are overpaying on both.)

[HornetJail]

I wouldn't do either of these for Boston, especially not the Tyreke one. The west is stacked and I don't see the Mavs making the playoffs without a serious shakeup. I would probably not even trade the pick straight up for Jones. Also I wouldn't attach a 10-15 pick to Bradley just for Tyreke.

[brackdan70]

Jared Sullinger or Kelly Olynyk, and Dallas Pick 2016 for Terrance Jones.

Evan Turner, Avery Bradley and Boston Pick 2016 for Tyreke Evans

actually just 2 ideas. all the rest seem even more foolish

Mind adding reasons for the other teams?

(Also, I think you are overpaying on both.)

Yes Overpay to get the deals done.

Houston has Jones and Montejunas. seems like some talk around here of one potentially being available for the right price. They get a PF back for the depth plus a nice asset.

For N.O. I am not sure they really wan't to move Tyreke, but they get a coupe players that could replace his production (to some extent) and a pick. This one probably wouldn't happen unless NO is struggling midseason...

I like both these players as improving the Cs now and going forward.

[Smitty731]

I wouldn't touch the NO trade. I think Bradley is already at least as good as Evans, if not better. Adding in Turner and a pick just makes it far too much. Turner and the pick alone, maybe.

The first one isn't any kind of upgrade either. Is Jones better than Sullinger or Olynyk? All three have questions.

[Splinter]

I like the idea of the C's consolidating for higher end talent but these examples don't particularly work. I think that Bradley has similar or greater value alone compared to Evans so that deal is dead right away in my eyes

[Scoot McGroot]

Jared Sullinger or Kelly Olynyk, and Dallas Pick 2016 for Terrance Jones.

Evan Turner, Avery Bradley and Boston Pick 2016 for Tyreke Evans

actually just 2 ideas. all the rest seem even more foolish ...



Houston has Jones and Montejunas. seems like some talk around here of one potentially being available for the right price. They get a PF back for the depth plus a nice asset.

Well, wouldn't Houston have the same issue, then? I mean, if they're moving Jones or Motie because they're both young PF's, why would they then want Sully or Olynyk? They also have Capela as a young center, too.....

[Curmudgeon]

Agree that Houston wouldn't do the first deal, but neither would Boston because Terrence Jones isn't a player they need. And Boston would never do the second deal for the reasons others have stated.

Houston might have had interest in Bradley before they traded for Lawson, but I don't see those two teams as good trading partners at this point.

[Texas Chuck]

I like Jones quite a bit so while it definitely feels like an overpay since he needs a new contract next year, I kinda get it. And it feels like a very Morey move to flip Jones for a couple more assets without hurting the team's ability to compete now too much. I think its pretty logical. And that Dallas pick is going to be a lotto pick and probably a top 12 one.

[lordjeff05]

The interesting thing is I think Evans and Bradley would play really well together vs. having one traded for the other. Bradley's deal expires this year, right? I don't think he fits with any of the other pieces on the team.

[Drax]

The interesting thing is I think Evans and Bradley would play really well together vs. having one traded for the other. Bradley's deal expires this year, right? I don't think he fits with any of the other pieces on the team.

No, including this season its three years $24 million.

[Curmudgeon]

The idea of consolidating is to trade two players for one guy who is a little better, or one that fills a need. Right now the Celtics' biggest need is at sf, although they could also use a rim protector. Unless one of those needs is satisfied, it probably makes sense for Ainge to wait and see how training camp shakes out.

The problem with Evans is that the Celtics live or die at the defensive end, and Evans doesn't play any. Evans was definitely a player that Ainge liked coming out of college, but I think the interest has cooled.

[eitanr]

I don't think Boston needs to even touch a pick if they are looking to acquire Terrence Jones, who would be a target I'd look at.

Something like Sully + Young/Hunter for Jones sounds about right.

[eitanr]

Also below are several talents Boston can likely snag with a 2 or even 3 for 1 type deal. The question is what's the deal:
C - N. Noel,
PF - T. Gibson, K. Faried, T. Jones
SF - S. Muhhamed, MKG, D. McDermott, C. Parsons, K. Middleton/J. Parker/Greek, O. Porter Jr
SG - V. Oladipo
PG - E. Bledsoe

[bondom34]

Also below are several talents Boston can likely snag with a 2 or even 3 for 1 type deal. The question is what's the deal:
C - N. Noel,
PF - T. Gibson, K. Faried, T. Jones
SF - S. Muhhamed, MKG, D. McDermott, C. Parsons, K. Middleton/J. Parker/Greek, O. Porter Jr
SG - V. Oladipo
PG - E. Bledsoe

You can eliminate any of the bolded. Zero chance, with maybe a 1 percent chance of Noel if they throw everything at Philly. Like Smart and 3 firsts.

[eitanr]

Also below are several talents Boston can likely snag with a 2 or even 3 for 1 type deal. The question is what's the deal:
C - N. Noel,
PF - T. Gibson, K. Faried, T. Jones
SF - S. Muhhamed, MKG, D. McDermott, C. Parsons, K. Middleton/J. Parker/Greek, O. Porter Jr
SG - V. Oladipo
PG - E. Bledsoe

You can eliminate any of the bolded. Zero chance, with maybe a 1 percent chance of Noel if they throw everything at Philly. Like Smart and 3 firsts.

Probably more realistic. That is true.

I still believe the Bucks will move one of the players mentioned by the deadline if they aren't in the playoff standings by Feb. Likewise with Orlando with 'Dipo and the Suns w/ Bledsoe.

[bondom34]

Also below are several talents Boston can likely snag with a 2 or even 3 for 1 type deal. The question is what's the deal:
C - N. Noel,
PF - T. Gibson, K. Faried, T. Jones
SF - S. Muhhamed, MKG, D. McDermott, C. Parsons, K. Middleton/J. Parker/Greek, O. Porter Jr
SG - V. Oladipo
PG - E. Bledsoe

You can eliminate any of the bolded. Zero chance, with maybe a 1 percent chance of Noel if they throw everything at Philly. Like Smart and 3 firsts.

Probably more realistic. That is true.

I still believe the Bucks will move one of the players mentioned by the deadline if they aren't in the playoff standings by Feb. Likewise with Orlando with 'Dipo and the Suns w/ Bledsoe.

There's no reason for any of those teams to do that though, that's the problem. None of them are in a hurry and nothing they get back is as good as what they give up.

[eitanr]

You can eliminate any of the bolded. Zero chance, with maybe a 1 percent chance of Noel if they throw everything at Philly. Like Smart and 3 firsts.

Probably more realistic. That is true.

I still believe the Bucks will move one of the players mentioned by the deadline if they aren't in the playoff standings by Feb. Likewise with Orlando with 'Dipo and the Suns w/ Bledsoe.

There's no reason for any of those teams to do that though, that's the problem. None of them are in a hurry and nothing they get back is as good as what they give up.

So for the players in bold we won't know yet, but given some of those teams (namely the Bucks, Magic and Suns) off-season moves, their GMs will want to make the playoffs. If they see the playoffs aren't super realistic by the deadline they will (and should) become sellers rather quickly. Boston has a ton of 2016 picks and any of those teams would be interested in a package that includes said 2016 pick along with other assets to help make 2017 a far better year than 2016. Again, a lot of hypotheticals here.

[bondom34]

Probably more realistic. That is true.

I still believe the Bucks will move one of the players mentioned by the deadline if they aren't in the playoff standings by Feb. Likewise with Orlando with 'Dipo and the Suns w/ Bledsoe.

There's no reason for any of those teams to do that though, that's the problem. None of them are in a hurry and nothing they get back is as good as what they give up.

So for the players in bold we won't know yet, but given some of those teams (namely the Bucks, Magic and Suns) off-season moves, their GMs will want to make the playoffs. If they see the playoffs aren't super realistic by the deadline they will (and should) become sellers rather quickly. Boston has a ton of 2016 picks and any of those teams would be interested in a package that includes said 2016 pick along with other assets to help make 2017 a far better year than 2016. Again, a lot of hypotheticals here.

Orlando isn't in a rush. Milwaukee is impoved but isn't selling Giannis, Middleton, or Parker, and Phoenix isn't rushing it either. Even if those teams sell, those aren't the parts they sell. You sell vets on expirings, not high upside young players on long term or rookie deals, it just makes no sense.

[buckboy]

I think Jones is better than Sullinger or Olynyk, but I don't think by enough to warrant that pick.

The 2nd trade is terrible for Boston. I don't get the Evans love whatsoever.