ORL all in with POR/SAC

Laimbeer · Post #1 » by **Laimbeer** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:00 pm

SAC: Oladipo, Gordon, Leonard, ORL 2016 1st - Rebuild package for disgruntled Cousins
POR: Vuc, Hezonja, Payton, Nicholson - Rebuilding with the loss of LMA
ORL: Cousins, Lillard - Go all in and consolidate to two young stars

Post #2 » by **bondom34** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:02 pm

Cousins isn't disgruntled.

And whatever Orlando has left after this isn't really good enough because they traded everyone away.

rpa · Post #3 » by **rpa** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:10 pm

Not even close for the Kings

Gomagic44 · Post #4 » by **Gomagic44** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:14 pm

So our entire team for 2 players? No thank you. Sure, they'd be a fun pair to watch but both need the ball in their hands to be effective right? Leaving us with?

Lillard
Fournier
Tobias
Dedmond
Cousins?

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blind prophet · Post #5 » by **blind prophet** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:19 pm

No thanks. Sacramento is not rebuilding.

Takingbaconback · Post #6 » by **Takingbaconback** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:57 pm

Crazy trade but it's really not bad at all. I think SAC should get a small asset from POR like protected first also.

Orl gives up a lot so POR should ship them McCollum cuz hezonja+vuc+Payton is worth way more than lillard and leonard

Post #7 » by **Smitty731** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:00 pm

I'm not sure how much better Orlando would be after this.

LightTheBeam · Post #8 » by **LightTheBeam** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:19 pm

We aren't trading Cousins but this is a better attempt than most that I see.

My only thing is the package for Lillard is arguably better than the one for Cousins. Oladipo/Gordon is a wash with Payton/Mario and then Vuc is thrown in as well where I don't place really any value for Leonard. I would say the Lillard package is a bit of an overpay as well. If Lillard was on the block Payton/Hezonja should be nearly enough to get it done imo.

A BETTER DJ · Post #9 » by **A BETTER DJ** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:02 pm

I think this is a massive overpay! I would counter offer Vuc, our 2016 1st, and Fournier for Cousins. I wouldn't gut the team for any 1 or 2 players. not sure Cousins even fits the attitude that Orlando has been building with for 3 years.

RealityIsDemar · Post #10 » by **RealityIsDemar** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:59 pm

So the team after these trade is:

Lilard/Watson/Napier
Fournier/Green/Harvey
Harris/Ejim/Marble
Frye/Smith
Cousins/Dedmon

I really don't see how that's any better then:

Payton/Watson/Napier
Oladipo/Fournier/Green
Harris/Hezonja/Marble
Gordon/Nicholson/Frye
Vucevic/Smith/Dedmon

Gomagic44 · Post #11 » by **Gomagic44** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:45 am

RealityIsDemar wrote:So the team after these trade is:

Lilard/Watson/Napier
Fournier/Green/Harvey
Harris/Ejim/Marble
Frye/Smith
Cousins/Dedmon

I really don't see how that's any better then:

Payton/Watson/Napier
Oladipo/Fournier/Green
Harris/Hezonja/Marble
Gordon/Nicholson/Frye
Vucevic/Smith/Dedmon

Agreed, but Willie isn't on our team anymore. Don't you put that evil on us for another year!

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nba2k16 · Post #12 » by **nba2k16** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:52 am

Somehow, this trade looks terrible for all sides involved. I tip my hat to you good sir.

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #13 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:49 am

In a strange way I kind of like it for ORL long term . They are getting arguably two top 10 players in the NBA. What would their cap situation be like long term though?

damecurry · Post #14 » by **damecurry** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:31 am

nba2k16 wrote:Somehow, this trade looks terrible for all sides involved. I tip my hat to you good sir.

nah, lillard/leonard for payton/herzonja/vuc, I don't love the actual pieces but value-wise that's an undeniable win for us.

Silver Man · Post #15 » by **Silver Man** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:54 am

Why would the Kings make a rebuild trade when it'd lose us our pick next year. Also just no to trading Cousins.

spearsy23 · Post #16 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:43 am

Silver Man wrote:Why would the Kings make a rebuild trade when it'd lose us our pick next year. Also just no to trading Cousins.

Because Philly still sucks.

tiderulz · Post #17 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:01 am

Wasabi_Johnson wrote:In a strange way I kind of like it for ORL long term . They are getting arguably two top 10 players in the NBA. What would their cap situation be like long term though?

i dont think its arguable, Lilliard isnt a top-10 player and honestly, Cousins isnt either.

Hachmabash · Post #18 » by **Hachmabash** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:06 am

If I´m Orlando, I do this without thinking. I have many assets and I hope at least one of them will be at least as good as the pieces coming my way? Yes, thank you.

Lillard + Cousins is a great foundation that you can have 5+ years, and they would be contenders in the east right off the bat.
No brainer for Orlando IMO.

Laimbeer · Post #19 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:21 pm

RealityIsDemar wrote:So the team after these trade is:

Lilard/Watson/Napier
Fournier/Green/Harvey
Harris/Ejim/Marble
Frye/Smith
Cousins/Dedmon

I really don't see how that's any better then:

Payton/Watson/Napier
Oladipo/Fournier/Green
Harris/Hezonja/Marble
Gordon/Nicholson/Frye
Vucevic/Smith/Dedmon

The second team was 25-57 last season. They're young and they'll get better, but the general consensus is that core will never be a serious contender for a title. Cousins and Lillard are probably both better than anyone currently on the team will ever be. They wouldn't instantly make Orlando a contender, but the idea would be to build around them and maybe they attract other players. I'd rather start with two outstanding players than a fistful of good ones.

tiderulz · Post #20 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:58 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
RealityIsDemar wrote:So the team after these trade is:

Lilard/Watson/Napier
Fournier/Green/Harvey
Harris/Ejim/Marble
Frye/Smith
Cousins/Dedmon

I really don't see how that's any better then:

Payton/Watson/Napier
Oladipo/Fournier/Green
Harris/Hezonja/Marble
Gordon/Nicholson/Frye
Vucevic/Smith/Dedmon

The second team was 25-57 last season. They're young and they'll get better, but the general consensus is that core will never be a serious contender for a title. Cousins and Lillard are probably both better than anyone currently on the team will ever be. They wouldn't instantly make Orlando a contender, but the idea would be to build around them and maybe they attract other players. I'd rather start with two outstanding players than a fistful of good ones.

guess i am just not a believer in Lilliard.

Vuc/HEzonja/Gordon/Dipo/Payton and a 1st, is a bit much.

I would rather see what it would take just for Cousins.