Jason Thompson for Channing Frye

[nba2k16]

To GSW:
Channing Frye (3 years: $8.2M, $7.8M, $7.4M)

-Still keep big man depth but get another greater shooter. Fits better with system since he can stretch the floor and play small ball C for them.
- No significant change to luxury tax this year. Salary is there for 2 years but with the new cap the $7M salary will be less than average salary soon.

To ORL:
Jason Thompson (2 years: $7.1M, only $2.8M guaranteed)

- He wasn't the best fit, so this a chance to shed the contract and get one that ends earlier.
- Jason Thompson can play tough minutes here and there when needed but this opens up some time for Aaron Gordon to get ample opportunity at the 4.

Disclaimer: I know that Jason Thompson has been officially welcomed to Oakland and it's unlikely they will trade him but please just assess the validity of the trade based on the players. Would you do it from either side?

[lakerhater]

My two biggest objections are Frye's age and that he pretty much duplicates what Speights does as a jump shooter from the high post to 3 point range.

Frye could make Speights irrelevant to GSW so I'd think GSW would rather deal MS for Frye if they were willing to take on CF's extra years.

JT gives the W's a better rebounder and stronger post defender from the deep bench then either MS or CF which is why I think they'd rather have JT plus one of MS or CF.

[Gomagic44]

I'm inclined to give frye another year to pan out with a new coach etc. but I may trade him for MS straight up, right now, and never look back.


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[azwfan]

No interest in this at all. If Orlando was to add some value (which they wouldn't want to) i might be able to be convinced, but just in general i don't really want to go from Thompson to Frye... primarily due to the lack of flexibility on Frye's contract, but also because my perception is that Thompson plays D and Frye doesn't.

[pacers33granger]

primarily due to the lack of flexibility on Frye's contract, but also because my perception is that Thompson plays D and Frye doesn't.

Yeah Frye is just limited physically on defense and his contract would be tough to swallow for any team, much less a high payroll team. Unfortunate, because it would be a ton of fun watching him on the Warriors.

[azwfan]

I think we can use a knock down shooter... preferably a combo guard, but SG/SF would work also. We dont really have any assets i'm willing to give up to get this mystery person. My inclination would be to bring a bunch of UDFA/Dleague shooters into camp and the one who can play NBA defense makes the team. If none of them can play NBA defense, leave the roster spot open and develop the ones we like most in Santa Cruz.

[gswhoops]

My two biggest objections are Frye's age and that he pretty much duplicates what Speights does as a jump shooter from the high post to 3 point range.

I'd throw in the extra $ and lack of defense as well. Not really any interest in this deal from my point of view.

[old rem]

My two biggest objections are Frye's age and that he pretty much duplicates what Speights does as a jump shooter from the high post to 3 point range.

Frye could make Speights irrelevant to GSW so I'd think GSW would rather deal MS for Frye if they were willing to take on CF's extra years.

JT gives the W's a better rebounder and stronger post defender from the deep bench then either MS or CF which is why I think they'd rather have JT plus one of MS or CF.

the deal has no chance from the GSW POV.. and the MONEY...Contract is the key. GSW has pretty nice depth at 4+5 now. The JT deal has aa small guarantee next year. While Frye was a better 3 guy.. that's not a big need for GSW..and he would not have the minutes to matter.

[Texas Chuck]

I'm inclined to give frye another year to pan out with a new coach etc. but I may trade him for MS straight up, right now, and never look back.


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LOL. Of course you would. Speights is probably the better player and his contract is light years better.

[Laimbeer]

I think we can use a knock down shooter... preferably a combo guard, but SG/SF would work also. We dont really have any assets i'm willing to give up to get this mystery person. My inclination would be to bring a bunch of UDFA/Dleague shooters into camp and the one who can play NBA defense makes the team. If none of them can play NBA defense, leave the roster spot open and develop the ones we like most in Santa Cruz.

The Warriors can't afford to be that comfortable. The 2015 version is going to be hard pressed to win a 2016 title with San Antonio, OKC, Houston, LAC, and Cleveland lurking. It isn't a question of the old gang staying together and just showing up to win another title.

[Smitty731]

Frye's shooting from deep would be really interesting on GSW. They could field a lineup where every single guy needs to be defended from the line on in. That would make spacing incredible. Really interesting thought.

I would probably pass on the deal though. Thompson gives the Warriors an additional defensive big, which they didn't really have. I also think is a good situation, we might finally see that the guy has value.

I do like Frye though. I don't think he's the disaster or a player or contract that people want to make him out to be. I just think Thompson fills a need for the Warriors more.

[azwfan]

I think we can use a knock down shooter... preferably a combo guard, but SG/SF would work also. We dont really have any assets i'm willing to give up to get this mystery person. My inclination would be to bring a bunch of UDFA/Dleague shooters into camp and the one who can play NBA defense makes the team. If none of them can play NBA defense, leave the roster spot open and develop the ones we like most in Santa Cruz.

The Warriors can't afford to be that comfortable. The 2015 version is going to be hard pressed to win a 2016 title with San Antonio, OKC, Houston, LAC, and Cleveland lurking. It isn't a question of the old gang staying together and just showing up to win another title.

Are you saying we can't win a championship this year as currently constructed or that the strategy is bad? This is basically the same route we took with our roster last year. We left 1 roster spot open because nobody earned the job. Looked into vet FA as they were bought out / released mid season, and finally just used the roster spot to sign McAdoo for the remainder of the year. I have no issue with using this strategy again.

What i don't want to do is trade defenders for poor defenders.

[Laimbeer]

I think we can use a knock down shooter... preferably a combo guard, but SG/SF would work also. We dont really have any assets i'm willing to give up to get this mystery person. My inclination would be to bring a bunch of UDFA/Dleague shooters into camp and the one who can play NBA defense makes the team. If none of them can play NBA defense, leave the roster spot open and develop the ones we like most in Santa Cruz.

The Warriors can't afford to be that comfortable. The 2015 version is going to be hard pressed to win a 2016 title with San Antonio, OKC, Houston, LAC, and Cleveland lurking. It isn't a question of the old gang staying together and just showing up to win another title.

Are you saying we can't win a championship this year as currently constructed or that the strategy is bad? This is basically the same route we took with our roster last year. We left 1 roster spot open because nobody earned the job. Looked into vet FA as they were bought out / released mid season, and finally just used the roster spot to sign McAdoo for the remainder of the year. I have no issue with using this strategy again.

What i don't want to do is trade defenders for poor defenders.

Of course they can, but I don't believe they're even the favorites at this point. Refusing to trade assets, particularly young assets, to improve the team may not be wise.

[azwfan]

The Warriors can't afford to be that comfortable. The 2015 version is going to be hard pressed to win a 2016 title with San Antonio, OKC, Houston, LAC, and Cleveland lurking. It isn't a question of the old gang staying together and just showing up to win another title.

Are you saying we can't win a championship this year as currently constructed or that the strategy is bad? This is basically the same route we took with our roster last year. We left 1 roster spot open because nobody earned the job. Looked into vet FA as they were bought out / released mid season, and finally just used the roster spot to sign McAdoo for the remainder of the year. I have no issue with using this strategy again.

What i don't want to do is trade defenders for poor defenders.

Of course they can, but I don't believe they're even the favorites at this point. Refusing to trade assets, particularly young assets, to improve the team may not be wise.

Not sure what young assets we're trading to get better. All i've seen here is Jason Thompson for Channing Frye. I dont think that makes us better. If you got a deal where we're trading Looney and Barbosa for a stud SG, i'm all ears.

[ChuckDurn]

The Warriors can't afford to be that comfortable. The 2015 version is going to be hard pressed to win a 2016 title with San Antonio, OKC, Houston, LAC, and Cleveland lurking. It isn't a question of the old gang staying together and just showing up to win another title.

Are you saying we can't win a championship this year as currently constructed or that the strategy is bad? This is basically the same route we took with our roster last year. We left 1 roster spot open because nobody earned the job. Looked into vet FA as they were bought out / released mid season, and finally just used the roster spot to sign McAdoo for the remainder of the year. I have no issue with using this strategy again.

What i don't want to do is trade defenders for poor defenders.

Of course they can, but I don't believe they're even the favorites at this point. Refusing to trade assets, particularly young assets, to improve the team may not be wise.

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what type of "trade young assets" are you suggesting? Illustrating this in the form of an actual deal would be helpful.....

[lakerhater]

My two biggest objections are Frye's age and that he pretty much duplicates what Speights does as a jump shooter from the high post to 3 point range.

Frye could make Speights irrelevant to GSW so I'd think GSW would rather deal MS for Frye if they were willing to take on CF's extra years.

JT gives the W's a better rebounder and stronger post defender from the deep bench then either MS or CF which is why I think they'd rather have JT plus one of MS or CF.

the deal has no chance from the GSW POV.. and the MONEY...Contract is the key. GSW has pretty nice depth at 4+5 now. The JT deal has aa small guarantee next year. While Frye was a better 3 guy.. that's not a big need for GSW..and he would not have the minutes to matter.

I agree, the contract makes it a no go for GSW but the OP asked for opinions based upon on court performance so I refrained from bringing that aspect up in my post.

[lakerhater]

Are you saying we can't win a championship this year as currently constructed or that the strategy is bad? This is basically the same route we took with our roster last year. We left 1 roster spot open because nobody earned the job. Looked into vet FA as they were bought out / released mid season, and finally just used the roster spot to sign McAdoo for the remainder of the year. I have no issue with using this strategy again.

What i don't want to do is trade defenders for poor defenders.

Of course they can, but I don't believe they're even the favorites at this point. Refusing to trade assets, particularly young assets, to improve the team may not be wise.

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what type of "trade young assets" are you suggesting? Illustrating this in the form of an actual deal would be helpful.....

Has me curious too. What deals did GSW miss out on Laimbeer?

[Warriorfan]

The warrior offense starts with defense and scoring in transition. Bogut and Ezelli both have an injury history so Thompson able to provide post D as 4th string after those two is more of a plus.

I don't see Frye being able to guard multiple positions or even his primary PF very well.

[Laimbeer]

Of course they can, but I don't believe they're even the favorites at this point. Refusing to trade assets, particularly young assets, to improve the team may not be wise.

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what type of "trade young assets" are you suggesting? Illustrating this in the form of an actual deal would be helpful.....

Has me curious too. What deals did GSW miss out on Laimbeer?

I'm not privy to any particular deals available. I was responding to a Warrior fan who commented:

I think we can use a knock down shooter... preferably a combo guard, but SG/SF would work also. We dont really have any assets i'm willing to give up to get this mystery person.

Looney, Ezeli should be readily available. Nothing earth shattering.

[lakerhater]

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what type of "trade young assets" are you suggesting? Illustrating this in the form of an actual deal would be helpful.....

Has me curious too. What deals did GSW miss out on Laimbeer?

I'm not privy to any particular deals available. I was responding to a Warrior fan who commented:

I think we can use a knock down shooter... preferably a combo guard, but SG/SF would work also. We dont really have any assets i'm willing to give up to get this mystery person.

Looney, Ezeli should be readily available. Nothing earth shattering.

Non-earth shattering moves probably won't make or break GSW's FO wisdom score.

That being said I'm ok with dealing Ezeli and Looney for the mystery player since both have or have had injury issues.