Denver/Toronto (Faried Trade)

[youngthegiant]

Denver Trades: Kenneth Faried

Toronto Trades: NY Pick, Patrick Patterson, Bruno Caboclo

Why: Toronto needs to bolster their frontline and the hustle and energy Faried will help them out down low. Denver gets a potential late lotto to early mid round pick, as well as caboclo and patterson.

[Bentley1225]

The Raptors are pretty much committed to Bruno so I think he is off the table.

I think a deal that makes the most sense is (On Dec 29th)

To Denver
-Patrick Patterson
-James Johnson
-2016 Denver or New York 1st round pick
-2017 Clippers 1st round pick
-2018 Raptors 1st round pick (lottery protected in '18, 19, or 2nd round picks in '20 and '21)

To Toronto
-Kenneth Faried
-Mike Miller

[Splinter]

The Raptors are pretty much committed to Bruno so I think he is off the table.

I think a deal that makes the most sense is (On Dec 29th)

To Denver
-Patrick Patterson
-James Johnson
-2016 Denver or New York 1st round pick
-2017 Clippers 1st round pick
-2018 Raptors 1st round pick (lottery protected in '18, 19, or 2nd round picks in '20 and '21)

To Toronto
-Kenneth Faried
-Mike Miller

Wow. 3 first round picks for Faried is astonishing.

[F1uxCapacit0r]

Toronto isn't giving that much up for faried. Faried is an average defender, poor shooter and a lousy fit next to val in that he would clog the lane. We need someone who can spread the floor from the 4 spot.

Bruno is not a throw in he's a player the raptors organization want to develop (bust or not)

Re: the second trade, no chance we give up 3 first rounders for faried

[Bentley1225]

Toronto isn't giving that much up for faried. Faried is an average defender, poor shooter and a lousy fit next to val in that he would clog the lane. We need someone who can spread the floor from the 4 spot.

Bruno is not a throw in he's a player the raptors organization want to develop (bust or not)

Re: the second trade, no chance we give up 3 first rounders for faried

Well Faried's contract value come beginning of next season will be incredibly valuable compared to a Tristan Thompson and others. The Nuggets aren't desperate and it would take a strong offer. I dont think the Nuggets are actively shopping Faried and perhaps 3 picks is excessive but I think that is what it would take to pry Faried away if the Raps really wanted him.

[Powder Blue]

Of those 3 picks in that second deal only one has a decent shot at being a lotto pick. As is always the case picks in the 20's are over-valued on RealGM. I think Faried is worth 2 mid lotto's or a solid lotto and serviceable young player/players.

[jbk1234]

Of those 3 picks in that second deal only one has a decent shot at being a lotto pick. As is always the case picks in the 20's are over-valued on RealGM. I think Faried is worth 2 mid lotto's or a solid lotto and serviceable young player/players.

He's not. He's not that good and the GMs who are desperate or who have questionable judgment don't really have them to offer.

[loserX]

I think Faried is worth 2 mid lotto's or a solid lotto and serviceable young player/players.

2 mid lotto's? Mid-lotto is around #8. I like Faried more than most but if you think Faried is worth two top ten picks I would be very surprised. Did you mean mid-round?

[sportscrazy]

Toronto isn't giving that much up for faried. Faried is an average defender, poor shooter and a lousy fit next to val in that he would clog the lane. We need someone who can spread the floor from the 4 spot.

Bruno is not a throw in he's a player the raptors organization want to develop (bust or not)

Re: the second trade, no chance we give up 3 first rounders for faried

Well Faried's contract value come beginning of next season will be incredibly valuable compared to a Tristan Thompson and others. The Nuggets aren't desperate and it would take a strong offer. I dont think the Nuggets are actively shopping Faried and perhaps 3 picks is excessive but I think that is what it would take to pry Faried away if the Raps really wanted him.

I agree, to me Faried is one of those rare players that is worth way more to his current team than any other team in the league and as such Denver wouldn't get any fair trade offers which is fine for the Nuggets who would prefer to keep him than sell low.

[R-DAWG]

If Denver could get 1 first round pick for Farid they should take it and run. Lebron isn't sitting with 2 extra 1st rd picks desperate for a C. The Mozgov deal was a fluke.

Remember Farid is an undersized power forward who doesn't excel at any part of the game and makes a lot of money relative to his production.

For the Ballboys - Denver can ask for whatever they want for Faried, doesn't mean they will get it. If the cost for Faried is 3 1st rd picks, or even 1 pick with the potential to be lotto, Faried will be a member of the Denver Nuggest for a long time.

[Powder Blue]

I think Faried is worth 2 mid lotto's or a solid lotto and serviceable young player/players.

2 mid lotto's? Mid-lotto is around #8. I like Faried more than most but if you think Faried is worth two top ten picks I would be very surprised. Did you mean mid-round?

Yes I stand corrected, I meant 2 mid first rounders or one mid-lotto pick. My opinion is also based on how the Nuggets operate, they hold out for an over the top deal. It worked with Mozgov but burned them with Lawson. I don't agree with it, they should really blow it up but they won't do that.

[Mr Swagtastic]

It's official Kenneth Farried is the most overrated person on these forums. Three first round picks for him is crazy, he is a very good rebounder but that is really all he is. I don't want his contract anywhere near this team.

[yellowknifer]

I don't think he's worth that Denver/NY first rounder. Not a chance. There's still a decent chance it's in the top 10.

He also doesn't fit in with the Raptors roster.

[nomansland]

It's official Kenneth Farried is the most overrated person on these forums. Three first round picks for him is crazy, he is a very good rebounder but that is really all he is. I don't want his contract anywhere near this team.

I agree that 3 1st rounders is too much.

I don't agree that he's the most overrated player on this forum, especially when I'm constantly reading that all he does is rebound.

Like I say often with Faried, he's worth more to Denver than he is to other teams, so if you can't make a good offer the Nugs should just keep him.

[Mr Swagtastic]

It's official Kenneth Farried is the most overrated person on these forums. Three first round picks for him is crazy, he is a very good rebounder but that is really all he is. I don't want his contract anywhere near this team.

I agree that 3 1st rounders is too much.

I don't agree that he's the most overrated player on this forum, especially when I'm constantly reading that all he does is rebound.

Like I say often with Faried, he's worth more to Denver than he is to other teams, so if you can't make a good offer the Nugs should just keep him.

Is Faried a guys defender? No, he is below average as a defender and shotblocker I don't think he can work with Jonas V. He is a energy player with very little offensive game outside 3-5 feet of the rim. You would be lucky to get a top 10-15 pick for him let alone massive salary relief and 2 more first rounders as with the OP'S deal

[Rapsfan07]

OP gotta inbox me so we can figure out how to get some of that Denver green over here in Toronto. Must be hella fire to make you post something like this. 3 first round picks for Faried is laughable at best.

[nomansland]

It's official Kenneth Farried is the most overrated person on these forums. Three first round picks for him is crazy, he is a very good rebounder but that is really all he is. I don't want his contract anywhere near this team.

I agree that 3 1st rounders is too much.

I don't agree that he's the most overrated player on this forum, especially when I'm constantly reading that all he does is rebound.

Like I say often with Faried, he's worth more to Denver than he is to other teams, so if you can't make a good offer the Nugs should just keep him.

Is Faried a guys defender? No, he is below average as a defender and shotblocker I don't think he can work with Jonas V. He is a energy player with very little offensive game outside 3-5 feet of the rim. You would be lucky to get a top 10-15 pick for him let alone massive salary relief and 2 more first rounders as with the OP'S deal

Salary relief isn't an issue for Denver and they're not looking to dump his deal.

He had some minor injuries this year that slowed him down a bit but his game is a lot more well-rounded so far. He's got a mid-range jumper now and is a smarter/better player on D. But for people who watch him once or twice a year and read box scores, he's just a rebounder.

But whatever. Like I said and will say again, he's worth more to Denver than a lot of other teams so if a good deal comes along, great, and if there are no good deals it's cool to keep him.

[yellowknifer]

I agree that 3 1st rounders is too much.

I don't agree that he's the most overrated player on this forum, especially when I'm constantly reading that all he does is rebound.

Like I say often with Faried, he's worth more to Denver than he is to other teams, so if you can't make a good offer the Nugs should just keep him.

Is Faried a guys defender? No, he is below average as a defender and shotblocker I don't think he can work with Jonas V. He is a energy player with very little offensive game outside 3-5 feet of the rim. You would be lucky to get a top 10-15 pick for him let alone massive salary relief and 2 more first rounders as with the OP'S deal

Salary relief isn't an issue for Denver and they're not looking to dump his deal.

He had some minor injuries this year that slowed him down a bit but his game is a lot more well-rounded so far. He's got a mid-range jumper now and is a smarter/better player on D. But for people who watch him once or twice a year and read box scores, he's just a rebounder.

But whatever. Like I said and will say again, he's worth more to Denver than a lot of other teams so if a good deal comes along, great, and if there are no good deals it's cool to keep him.

Maybe he's developed a mid range jumper, it's still not enough for him to fit well with the Raptors. And it's way far off some of the deals proposed here.

I actually thought with that young C you guys had who seemed to shoot the 3 well he might fit in a rotation nicely with him or another C who can operate in the mid range as well.

[nomansland]

Is Faried a guys defender? No, he is below average as a defender and shotblocker I don't think he can work with Jonas V. He is a energy player with very little offensive game outside 3-5 feet of the rim. You would be lucky to get a top 10-15 pick for him let alone massive salary relief and 2 more first rounders as with the OP'S deal

Salary relief isn't an issue for Denver and they're not looking to dump his deal.

He had some minor injuries this year that slowed him down a bit but his game is a lot more well-rounded so far. He's got a mid-range jumper now and is a smarter/better player on D. But for people who watch him once or twice a year and read box scores, he's just a rebounder.

But whatever. Like I said and will say again, he's worth more to Denver than a lot of other teams so if a good deal comes along, great, and if there are no good deals it's cool to keep him.

Maybe he's developed a mid range jumper, it's still not enough for him to fit well with the Raptors. And it's way far off some of the deals proposed here.

I actually thought with that young C you guys had who seemed to shoot the 3 well he might fit in a rotation nicely with him or another C who can operate in the mid range as well.

Who, Jokic or Lauvergne? Both of them are looking good so far, keeping fingers crossed.

[Austincys21]

I see Faried as a guy who is solid but I'd only want him while he's on his rookie contract. I just don't think he's worth the money. The value is fine but Toronto doesn't get much better