Offers for the #14 pick

drosestruts · Post #1 » by **drosestruts** » Wed May 18, 2016 7:57 pm

I know the #14 pick isn't really all that sexy, with the said, was just curious what you would trade from your team for this pick? I am ready to be underwhelmed.

Post #2 » by **loserX** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:00 pm

These threads tend to go much better if you specify what you're looking for.

Would you move down? Are you looking for a young player with less variance? For a veteran player at some position?

uraverage · Post #3 » by **uraverage** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:00 pm

Got any salary you want to dump?

Woody Allen · Post #4 » by **Woody Allen** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:01 pm

If I were the Bulls, I'd use that pick to draft (or to move up and draft) Rose's replacement at PG.

bulliedog8 · Post #5 » by **bulliedog8** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:35 pm

#14 and Mirotic for the #5 from Minn

Minn gets a starting stretch PF and a pick to help the bench.

Bulls go for Dunn or whoever at 5

Woody Allen · Post #6 » by **Woody Allen** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:39 pm

bulliedog8 wrote:#14 and Mirotic for the #5 from Minn

Minn gets a starting stretch PF and a pick to help the bench.

Bulls go for Dunn or whoever at 5

You definitely don't give up #14 in that case. Mirotic is still very young on a great contract and he'll be RFA once it expires (no flight risk).

R-DAWG · Post #7 » by **R-DAWG** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:43 pm

Woody Allen wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:#14 and Mirotic for the #5 from Minn

Minn gets a starting stretch PF and a pick to help the bench.

Bulls go for Dunn or whoever at 5

You definitely don't give up #14 in that case. Mirotic is still very young on a great contract and he'll be RFA once it expires (no flight risk).

But historically RFA's get overpaid. Not to mention Mirotic regressed this year.

Woody Allen · Post #8 » by **Woody Allen** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:48 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:#14 and Mirotic for the #5 from Minn

Minn gets a starting stretch PF and a pick to help the bench.

Bulls go for Dunn or whoever at 5

You definitely don't give up #14 in that case. Mirotic is still very young on a great contract and he'll be RFA once it expires (no flight risk).

But historically RFA's get overpaid. Not to mention Mirotic regressed this year.

Bulls offense was a mess under Hoiberg and Mirotic is a finisher. I don't think he actually regressed. RFAs are typically underpaid, if anything.

bdpecore · Post #9 » by **bdpecore** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:52 pm

Either Monroe for #14 or Monroe and MCW for #14 and Gibson.

Post #10 » by **Smitty731** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:53 pm

Woody Allen wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:#14 and Mirotic for the #5 from Minn

Minn gets a starting stretch PF and a pick to help the bench.

Bulls go for Dunn or whoever at 5

You definitely don't give up #14 in that case. Mirotic is still very young on a great contract and he'll be RFA once it expires (no flight risk).

Mirotic is 25, so not sure that qualifies as very young. The great contract and RFA parts are certainly true. And Mirotic alone is not returning the #5 pick. Not when Minnesota has several other options already at the PF spot. #14 and Mirotic might work, but I don't Minnesota will want to drop back that far to add a guy who would be a reserve for them.

Post #11 » by **Smitty731** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:55 pm

bdpecore wrote:Either Monroe for #14 or Monroe and MCW for #14 and Gibson.

I like Monroe and MCW for #14 and Gibson. Mostly because I feel like Gibson fits what Milwaukee needs more than Monroe does and #14 has a chance to be at least as good as MCW.

I don't like the first one because, for all his flaws, Monroe is better than whoever Milwaukee could get at #14.

Woody Allen · Post #12 » by **Woody Allen** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:55 pm

Minnesota should definitely start Mirotic at PF should they acquire him. Towns is a C.

Streakers33 · Post #13 » by **Streakers33** » Wed May 18, 2016 9:53 pm

All depends what Bulls looking for.
Mcbuckets and 14 for pick five might get it done also. Who knows.

GopherIt! · Post #14 » by **GopherIt!** » Wed May 18, 2016 10:17 pm

Woody Allen wrote:Minnesota should definitely start Mirotic at PF should they acquire him. Towns is a C.

Dieng is the starter and has improved every year. Plus we have Belly who showed a lot of promise down the stretch.
Niko would be 3rd on the ladder.

Post #15 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Wed May 18, 2016 10:30 pm

GopherIt! wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:Minnesota should definitely start Mirotic at PF should they acquire him. Towns is a C.

Dieng is the starter and has improved every year. Plus we have Belly who showed a lot of promise down the stretch.
Niko would be 3rd on the ladder.

You really think Bjelica is above Mirotic?

Woody Allen · Post #16 » by **Woody Allen** » Wed May 18, 2016 10:47 pm

I like Bjelica but we've got a fan liking their team's players a ton more than the others situation here. Mirotic's shooting ability, scoring instincts and post moves are far superior to Bjelica. He can play inside out as good as anyone and would be a great fir next to Towns.

Dieng is a good player and could perform like an allstar in the right situation, but Minnesota right now just is not that. He's a natural C and unless Thibs finds a way, they look quite Towns and Dieng look quite awkward together on the floor. Like I said, the most ideal outcome for Towns is to grow into a full time center and a player like Mirotic would fare better next to him.

bulliedog8 · Post #17 » by **bulliedog8** » Wed May 18, 2016 11:07 pm

Bjelly is trash IMO. Dieng is legit, but he would be served best as the 3rd big IMO. Mirotic would be a great stretch 4 next to Towns. His shot improved towards the end, he is a good playmaker, though out of control at times, only 25 still.

Pek (done), Garnett (done), Payne (trash), and Bjelly (trash) need to go. Mirotic as the starter, Dieng as a 4/5, then could draft a Deyonta Davis (if there) at 14 for a 4th big.

GopherIt! · Post #18 » by **GopherIt!** » Wed May 18, 2016 11:19 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
GopherIt! wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:Minnesota should definitely start Mirotic at PF should they acquire him. Towns is a C.

Dieng is the starter and has improved every year. Plus we have Belly who showed a lot of promise down the stretch.
Niko would be 3rd on the ladder.

You really think Bjelica is above Mirotic?

Yes. Belly is criminally underrated on RGM. Smart player. Thibs will really use him to his strengths

Post #19 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed May 18, 2016 11:26 pm

GopherIt! wrote:Yes. Belly is criminally underrated on RGM.

Not really sure where this is. We simply don't talk about him much here and I can't imagine he gets any play on the PC or GB which means Wolves fans specifically must not be high on him.

But moving past that. He's played 60 total games for an average of 18 minutes per. He's been an efficient low-volume scorer and a decent rebounder. He struggled defensively last year as was to be expected. Overall that's a semi-useful player, but he's also 28 already so its unlikely we are going to see significant improvement to his game.

Overall I can't think of any reason to call this guy criminally underrated. What we know so far is that he managed to be a fringe rotation player on a mediocre team. He has some skills that suggest he could potentially be an 8th or 9th guy on a good team, but its hard to project much more than that, right?

Dominator83 · Post #20 » by **Dominator83** » Wed May 18, 2016 11:39 pm

Smitty731 wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:#14 and Mirotic for the #5 from Minn

Minn gets a starting stretch PF and a pick to help the bench.

Bulls go for Dunn or whoever at 5

You definitely don't give up #14 in that case. Mirotic is still very young on a great contract and he'll be RFA once it expires (no flight risk).

Mirotic is 25, so not sure that qualifies as very young. The great contract and RFA parts are certainly true. And Mirotic alone is not returning the #5 pick. Not when Minnesota has several other options already at the PF spot. #14 and Mirotic might work, but I don't Minnesota will want to drop back that far to add a guy who would be a reserve for them.

Mirotic actually played really well his 1st year when he was with Thibadeau. Reuniting those those might be a good match, especially with KAT and Wiggins. Under Thibs he did more than just park behind the 3pt line

Maybe some of the regression was his fault, but I think alot of it is because Fred cant coach