BOS/IND/SAC

[Guzman_9]

This is a draft night trade.

Also not made to be "Cut so and so out"

BOS Out: Bradley, Rozier, 3rd, 16th, 23, 2017 1st
BOS In: Cousins, Stuckey

Why?
They get their star player and also get a combo guard to fill out their bench and still have money to sign another upper level player

IND Out: Stuckey, 2016 20th pick
IND In: Mclemore, 2016 BOS 23rd pick

Why?
They cut salary and get a young player to develop and moving back 3 spots

SAC Out: Cousins, Mclemore
SAC In: Bradley, Rozier, 2016 BOS 3rd pick, BOS 2016 16th pick, IND 20th pick, 2017 BOS 1st rd pick

Why?
They move pass the Cousins saga and get multiple picks and a cheap growing player in Bradley. He can help on the defensive end and have money to soend this summer and next.


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[rpa]

Not a single top flight asset for the Kings = instant no--and it's not even close.

[Texas Chuck]

I know you don't want to hear this, but cut Indy out. No reason at all for Boston to want to tie up cap space on Stuckey with Bradley and Smart ahead of him and certainly they aren't to add value to take him on like this.

I know you are a Pacers fan, but honestly they feel shoe-horned into this deal.

And not enough value for Boogie here at all.

[Crossy2008]

Boston cannot trade their pick for next year because they have pick swap options with Brooklyn, so if you are trading the pick swap option with Brooklyn then that would certainly add a bunch of value for Sac.

There is a lot of talk about how next year is going to be a very good draft, so any team that is looking at a possible rebuild would be very smart to load up on picks for next season. Though I do not think that anyone could realistically say that Sacramento would be rebuilding because they really haven't built anything. At least nothing that has translated to wins for quite some time.

[Smitty731]

Boston cannot trade their pick for next year because they have pick swap options with Brooklyn, so if you are trading the pick swap option with Brooklyn then that would certainly add a bunch of value for Sac.

There is a lot of talk about how next year is going to be a very good draft, so any team that is looking at a possible rebuild would be very smart to load up on picks for next season. Though I do not think that anyone could realistically say that Sacramento would be rebuilding because they really haven't built anything. At least nothing that has translated to wins for quite some time.

They could structure it as: "The better of Boston and Brooklyn to Sacramento and the other to Brooklyn". That happens regularly as you essentially are trading the swap rights.

As for the trades, not enough for Cousins from what I can see. And I agree with Chuck that Indiana doesn't need to be involved. If Boston can put together a deal to get Cousins, they have more than enough ammo themselves to get it done without involving other teams. And Sacramento will, and should, hold out for a massive return until the point where they have to trade Cousins. They aren't there yet, so no need to settle for anything beyond a huge haul.

[Golabki]

I know you don't want to hear this, but cut Indy out. No reason at all for Boston to want to tie up cap space on Stuckey with Bradley and Smart ahead of him and certainly they aren't to add value to take him on like this.

I know you are a Pacers fan, but honestly they feel shoe-horned into this deal.

And not enough value for Boogie here at all.

Yep - the idea that the celtics are going to have a deal in place for cousins and tell sac... You know what wait a couple days so be can turn McLemore into stuckey as part of the deal... It's one of the more bizzare ideas I've seen on this board, which is a high bar

[Golabki]

Not a single top flight asset for the Kings = instant no--and it's not even close.

Are you aware the 2017 Boston pocks includes swap rights with bky?

[jayu70]

Not a single top flight asset for the Kings = instant no--and it's not even close.

Are you aware the 2017 Boston pocks includes swap rights with bky?

But if Sac is trading Cousins they just might have a worse record than Brooklyn next year, so the pick swap won't matter.
Sac won 33 games with Boogie, if Boogie is gone means also no Rondo, so just adding the #3 pick to Sac - waaaay less than 33 wins.
If Brooklyn brings back the same team, they probably win more than 21.

[Texas Chuck]

Not a single top flight asset for the Kings = instant no--and it's not even close.

Are you aware the 2017 Boston pocks includes swap rights with bky?

But if Sac is trading Cousins they just might have a worse record than Brooklyn next year, so the pick swap won't matter.
Sac won 33 games with Boogie, if Boogie is gone means also no Rondo, so just adding the #3 pick to Sac - waaaay less than 33 wins.
If Brooklyn brings back the same team, they probably win more than 21.

No. The swap rights are attached only to the Boston pick. So the Kings get the better of the Nets/Celtics pick. The Kings pick is irrelevant. Now the Kings have to either give their own pick to Chicago or risk swapping it with the Sixers, but that's a separate matter altogether.

[Golabki]

Not a single top flight asset for the Kings = instant no--and it's not even close.

Are you aware the 2017 Boston pocks includes swap rights with bky?

But if Sac is trading Cousins they just might have a worse record than Brooklyn next year, so the pick swap won't matter.
Sac won 33 games with Boogie, if Boogie is gone means also no Rondo, so just adding the #3 pick to Sac - waaaay less than 33 wins.
If Brooklyn brings back the same team, they probably win more than 21.

That's not how pick swaps work. You'd get the sac pick (regardless) + the better of the bky / Boston picks

[Woody Allen]

Not a single top flight asset for the Kings = instant no--and it's not even close.

Doesn't really matter because the Kings will never get a top flight asset. Divac as an executive is laughable and Cousins so far appears like the only achievements in his career will be scoring 50+ points on occasion. He's the opposite of a winner.

[Scoot McGroot]

Yeah, I don't think that McLemore had a bad enough year to warrant a swap for Stuckey and only moving up 3 spots (or for Indy, swapping Stuckey for McLemore and moving down 3 spots).

[Higgs Boston]

Cut indiana and bradley, and add more picks/young players from boston.

[jayjaysee]

Or cut 23 out, send Indy 31 or 35 instead. Cut Bradley out and add the 2018 Brooklyn pick.

[Wizop]

I can see Indy moving down three spots in the first if Boston included some of its second round picks. Boston has more picks than they can use. The players can be left out of the deal. Or Boston could send a PF to Indy to enable a pick swap as the new cap will allow Indy to absorb a salary and Boston would clear a roster spot for a rookie.

[Scoot McGroot]

I can see Indy moving down three spots in the first if Boston included some of its second round picks. Boston has more picks than they can use. The players can be left out of the deal. Or Boston could send a PF to Indy to enable a pick swap as the new cap will allow Indy to absorb a salary and Boston would clear a roster spot for a rookie.

20 & 50 for 23 and either of 31/35? Yeah, I'd probably* do it. I think Boston might consider it if they could then convince a team to move down to 16 & 20, instead of 16/23/31(or 35). 50 would probably just be a sell-off for Boston at that point, or a pure draft and stash.

Edit: *instead of probably, I'd "likely" do it. I guess just depends on if someone falls to 20 that wouldn't fall to 23?

[winter_mute_13]

Don't really understand why Indiana is in the deal. In a hypothetical Cousins to Boston scenario, Indiana's best role would be to absorb a player or 2 from Boston and turn it into a future asset (like #20) to send to Sacto. This is not what happens here.

[codydaze]

Not a single top flight asset for the Kings = instant no--and it's not even close.

Doesn't really matter because the Kings will never get a top flight asset. Divac as an executive is laughable and Cousins so far appears like the only achievements in his career will be scoring 50+ points on occasion. He's the opposite of a winner.

How do you figure? Oh I assume you mean because of the Philly trade and that he didn't know the CBA through and through right? Didn't he just hire an expert in the field to assist with these things? Didn't he just hire a top flight coach in the league even though the Kings organization is such a joke and a coach killer? Sure, man. Laughable.

[Wizop]

20 & 50 for 23 and either of 31/35? Yeah, I'd likely do it.

I think Boston would be happier with our 2017 2nd rather than the 50 this year. They need to turn some of this year's picks into future picks. Pacers should be able to get Brice at 23, Brogdon or McCaw at 31/35 and a stash at 50.

[DLeagueAllStars]

Not enought for Boogie

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