Rubio to SA

pipfan · Post #1 » by **pipfan** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:15 am

I assume this has been posted-I have not been on the board much and haven't seen it

Parker/that 2 guard SA drafted this year-the one who was a steal/2017 first for Rubio

Rubio would be AWESOME with Green/Leonard/LMA/Pau

Minny gets a place holder in Parker while Dunn/Jones learn the ropes. They also get a young guy to back up Lavine and a future pick

I figure they deal Parker this summer

Post #2 » by **Mamba4Goat** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:19 am

SA would never trade Parker, but I think they'd say no to this deal even if they were okay with trading him. This is more of a value to the franchise being greater than the value to the outside world type of thing.

Post #3 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:20 am

I actually like this idea a ton for the Spurs. And I don't totally hate it for the Wolves either really.

wfiles · Post #4 » by **wfiles** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:22 am

Texas Chuck wrote:I actually like this idea a ton for the Spurs. And I don't totally hate it for the Wolves either really.

The wolves don't want 34 year old Parker and some late 2017 draft pick.

blind prophet · Post #5 » by **blind prophet** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:27 am

Hard to fathom them moving Parker.

But this seems like a good deal for the Spurs today.

Bad for Minny, way too early to take Murray for Rubio. He looks good so far, but I wouldn't bite if I was Minnesota.

blind prophet · Post #6 » by **blind prophet** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:30 am

wfiles wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I actually like this idea a ton for the Spurs. And I don't totally hate it for the Wolves either really.

The wolves don't want 34 year old Parker and some late 2017 draft pick.

I wouldn't take the trade if I was Minny either, but "some late 2017 draft pick" is not really a good take. He looks pretty good so far, just not proven yet. If he was drafted at 10 or something his ability wouldn't magically be more.

wfiles · Post #7 » by **wfiles** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:33 am

blind prophet wrote:
wfiles wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I actually like this idea a ton for the Spurs. And I don't totally hate it for the Wolves either really.

The wolves don't want 34 year old Parker and some late 2017 draft pick.

I wouldn't take the trade if I was Minny either, but "some late 2017 draft pick" is not really a good take. He looks pretty good so far, just not proven yet. If he was drafted at 10 or something his ability wouldn't magically be more.

I'm talking about the 2017 first round draft pick in the proposed offer not the player that the Spurs drafted recently.

wolves_89 · Post #8 » by **wolves_89** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:39 am

I'd much rather keep Rubio. The trade makes the Wolves a worse team next year while at the same time giving them very little in terms of future assets. No thanks.

Blame Rasho · Post #9 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:41 am

The Wolves should have traded him on draft day where I think he could have shored up their swing man and get some real 3 point shooting.

I think Dunn could be better from day one than Rubio this coming season and Jones looks to be a very solid back up option.

The problem with basically any and all trades with the Spurs, is that their players are valued more for their fit with the Spurs rather than anyone else.

No Wolves fan is saying.. you know what... we need Tony Parker... esp after having drafted Dunn and Jones on the roster.

wablty · Post #10 » by **wablty** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:48 am

It seems like Minnesota's just doing San Antonio a solid out of the goodness of their heart. The problem is the guy they need to be trading Rubio for isn't really available at the moment. They need a combo forward that can guard big wings and most 4's while making some 3's.

The odds of Dunn being better than Rubio from Day 1 are extremely long. There's no reason to trade Rubio until there's an offer that actually fits. You should be able to get a reasonable starter for a good, young player on a nice contract. A Tobias Harris, Robert Covington or even Rudy Gay would be a nice fit, but they're either not available, a 1 year rental or about to get really expensive. There's room on the roster for someone who can play the 3 when Wiggins is at 2 and they go big (or getting a rest) and sliding over to 4 if they go small.

Chinook · Post #11 » by **Chinook** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:51 am

Take Rubio somewhere else, please. I'm not giving up value to make that swap if I'm the Spurs. Sure as hell not giving up Murray as a throw-in.

Post #12 » by **Smitty731** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:29 pm

pipfan wrote:I assume this has been posted-I have not been on the board much and haven't seen it

Parker/that 2 guard SA drafted this year-the one who was a steal/2017 first for Rubio

Rubio would be AWESOME with Green/Leonard/LMA/Pau

Minny gets a place holder in Parker while Dunn/Jones learn the ropes. They also get a young guy to back up Lavine and a future pick

I figure they deal Parker this summer

Who in the world is this?

franktony · Post #13 » by **franktony** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:05 pm

Smitty731 wrote:
pipfan wrote:I assume this has been posted-I have not been on the board much and haven't seen it

Parker/that 2 guard SA drafted this year-the one who was a steal/2017 first for Rubio

Rubio would be AWESOME with Green/Leonard/LMA/Pau

Minny gets a place holder in Parker while Dunn/Jones learn the ropes. They also get a young guy to back up Lavine and a future pick

I figure they deal Parker this summer

Who in the world is this?

Pretty sure he is talking about Dejounte Murray.

Post #14 » by **Smitty731** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:10 pm

franktony wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:
pipfan wrote:I assume this has been posted-I have not been on the board much and haven't seen it

Parker/that 2 guard SA drafted this year-the one who was a steal/2017 first for Rubio

Rubio would be AWESOME with Green/Leonard/LMA/Pau

Minny gets a place holder in Parker while Dunn/Jones learn the ropes. They also get a young guy to back up Lavine and a future pick

I figure they deal Parker this summer

Who in the world is this?

Pretty sure he is talking about Dejounte Murray.

Not sure he is a SG or a steal, but ok then.

Rubio9Guy · Post #15 » by **Rubio9Guy** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:14 pm

The guy is such a steal that he doesn't even know his name...

Chinook · Post #16 » by **Chinook** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:21 pm

Rubio9Guy wrote:The guy is such a steal that he doesn't even know his name...

I think Murray is less of a steal than people assume (he's high ceiling/low floor, which is a risk the Spurs needed to take but that other teams were justified in passing on), but he's been getting that hype about being a steal since he was drafted. I can totally understand not knowing who the player is but having heard about how the Spurs "did it again" with some guy (since it would have been that way with whomever SA draft -- broadcasters are so lazy).

Blue Wolf · Post #17 » by **Blue Wolf** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:23 pm

[quote="Blame Rasho"I think Dunn could be better from day one than Rubio ....[/quote]

Really? This is a real take? Global mod, no less?Omfg, go ahead and warn me/censor this post/or whatever because I can't find any words to further a civil discussion about how Rubio isn't worth Tony Parker's corpse, some young kid who hasn't proven a damn thing in this league, and a late 1st round pick. Sorry.

Smdh #*@!^((&*#!! $!

Post #18 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:26 pm

Blue Wolf wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:I think Dunn could be better from day one than Rubio ....

Really? This is a real take? Global mod, no less?Omfg, go ahead and warn me/censor this post/or whatever because I can't find any words to further a civil discussion about how Rubio isn't worth Tony Parker's corpse, some young kid who hasn't proven a damn thing in this league, and a late 1st round pick. Sorry.

Smdh #*@!^((&*#!! $!

Mod-baiting absolutely isn't going to be tolerated under any circumstances. And in the future when, as you put it, you can't find words for a civil discussion, its better if you just refrain from posting.

Chuck

Post #19 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:35 pm

I definitely could see the chance that Dunn is better than Rubio out of the gate, but it doesn't mean I like the return for Minnesota here.

jayjaysee · Post #20 » by **jayjaysee** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:26 pm

I don't really see what's wrong with this trade for either side.

Minnesota gets a really good vet bandaid and two cheap labor contracts. Should be what they are looking for if trading Rubio in my opinion.

SAS gets a one year upgrade, who is also a much better asset next year to trade if SAS can convince Westbrook or.. to come over. I imagine after a year of playing for Pop and making the WCF, Rubio, with two cheap years left, will be worth a lot more than two late firsts they give up here. Compared to asking someone to take 35 year old expiring Parker..

Would be smart for both sides imo.