Most shockingly high and low contracts
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Most shockingly high and low contracts
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These are contracts that surprised you by being so high or low. Not talking about guys you expected to get over or under paid and then were. Omit ring chasers.
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High is Turner. Just blew me away.
And low is Waiters, I didn't even expect that.
And low is Waiters, I didn't even expect that.
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High is Joakim Noah. Couldn't believe some GM thought it was a good idea to give him a four year deal and for $72MM no less!
Low is Gerald Green. I thought some team would have at least offered him the MLE.
Low is Gerald Green. I thought some team would have at least offered him the MLE.
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High has to be Turner then Mozgov. I shook my head at the Mozgov signing but honestly thought Evan Turner's was a misprint. (Dishonourable mention: Austin Rivers getting almost $12M/yr per for three years. I mean, we all knew it was going to be too much, but come on.)
Low end, like bondom I was surprised Waiters got *that* little (less than Barbosa?). Nene (room exception) and Jarrett Jack (vet min) also came super cheap, and I don't know whether to omit them as "ring chasers" because are Atlanta and Houston really title contenders this year? I wouldn't have been surprised to see those guys take those deals from Cleveland or GSW, but the Hawks and Rockets are a step down from that and still got deep discounts.
Low end, like bondom I was surprised Waiters got *that* little (less than Barbosa?). Nene (room exception) and Jarrett Jack (vet min) also came super cheap, and I don't know whether to omit them as "ring chasers" because are Atlanta and Houston really title contenders this year? I wouldn't have been surprised to see those guys take those deals from Cleveland or GSW, but the Hawks and Rockets are a step down from that and still got deep discounts.
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High: Mozgov. Feels like this one is self-explanatory.
Low: Sullinger? I get that he's betting on himself with that deal, but I thought he'd find more money than what he got.
Low: Sullinger? I get that he's betting on himself with that deal, but I thought he'd find more money than what he got.
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low: Zaza -- I would have thought for sure he would have wanted to cash in on all this capspace and get one good contract in. Instead he took nothing from GSW.
high: Turner and Rivers.
high: Turner and Rivers.
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Heh, we could easily claim both of these categories. ET highest and Ezeli lowest, they were each probably 2nd or third for me.
Highest is Mozgov, then Noah though. As I keep saying, regardless of anything else ET is a healthy human being capable of staying on the court, mozzy and joakim really aren't. When 30 year old centers start breaking down they very rarely recuperate fully, paying those guys 15m+ for 4 years considering there is a very legitimate chance they break down and just collect that money for the last two or three years without even playing, is just nuts.
Lowest is harder, Ezeli and waiters, Zaza, Marvin Williams at almost 30m less than ryno is pretty shocking.
Highest is Mozgov, then Noah though. As I keep saying, regardless of anything else ET is a healthy human being capable of staying on the court, mozzy and joakim really aren't. When 30 year old centers start breaking down they very rarely recuperate fully, paying those guys 15m+ for 4 years considering there is a very legitimate chance they break down and just collect that money for the last two or three years without even playing, is just nuts.
Lowest is harder, Ezeli and waiters, Zaza, Marvin Williams at almost 30m less than ryno is pretty shocking.
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My high is a tie between Turner and Noah. Both are valuable players, but both are getting a lot of money.
My low is also Waiters. Especially when a guy like Ellington is getting twice as much.
My low is also Waiters. Especially when a guy like Ellington is getting twice as much.
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High: Mozgov, Mahinmi
Low: Seth Curry
Low: Seth Curry
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Mozgov and Turner are the two inexplicable ones for me.
I'm also surprise Sullinger got so little. I think there most have been bad blood with the celtics by the end. He should fire his agent.
I'm also surprise Sullinger got so little. I think there most have been bad blood with the celtics by the end. He should fire his agent.
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High - Solomon Hill and Garrett Temple
Hill : For a guy that had his TO declined off a rookie contract, getting a 50m was definitely shocking.
Temple: I always see this guy as a 3rd string player. I never thought he could get a 8m/year contract.
Low - Terrence Jones and Waiters
Jones : even with a down year with the Rockets, I expected to see a few teams still giving him a big contract. Maybe he had some offers, but I think he made the right decision going to the Pelicans for the minimum.
Waiters : I'm not high on Waiters, but I think he was decent for OKC last season, especially in the playoffs. I thought he would get at least 10m/year from a dumb team. Maybe teams are getting smarter.
Hill : For a guy that had his TO declined off a rookie contract, getting a 50m was definitely shocking.
Temple: I always see this guy as a 3rd string player. I never thought he could get a 8m/year contract.
Low - Terrence Jones and Waiters
Jones : even with a down year with the Rockets, I expected to see a few teams still giving him a big contract. Maybe he had some offers, but I think he made the right decision going to the Pelicans for the minimum.
Waiters : I'm not high on Waiters, but I think he was decent for OKC last season, especially in the playoffs. I thought he would get at least 10m/year from a dumb team. Maybe teams are getting smarter.
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high: Noah, Mozgov, Tyler Johnson, Solomon Hill
Low: Sullinger, Zaza, Ezeli
Low: Sullinger, Zaza, Ezeli
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Ezeli was the one that shocked me as a low. Everyone was talking about him getting 4/40 easy. Then when the Mozgov & Noah contracts came out, I figured "Oh, Ezeli is getting some 4/60 deal. This is the NBA now."
Instead, he gets 2 years, 16 million with a 2nd year team option. WHAT? That's Tyler Zeller money now. That's way less than what the Blazers gave Meyers Leonard.
Instead, he gets 2 years, 16 million with a 2nd year team option. WHAT? That's Tyler Zeller money now. That's way less than what the Blazers gave Meyers Leonard.
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jowglenn wrote:Ezeli was the one that shocked me as a low. Everyone was talking about him getting 4/40 easy. Then when the Mozgov & Noah contracts came out, I figured "Oh, Ezeli is getting some 4/60 deal. This is the NBA now."
Instead, he gets 2 years, 16 million with a 2nd year team option. WHAT? That's Tyler Zeller money now. That's way less than what the Blazers gave Meyers Leonard.
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High: Definitely Allen Crabbe, worst contract signed this summer.
Low: Sullinger and Waiters should get ~14M/per year in this market.
Low: Sullinger and Waiters should get ~14M/per year in this market.
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High is miles plumlee. $52 mil for lets call him depth. Low is sullinger getting a one year from Toronto. I thought he'd at least get a three year offer.
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bondom34 wrote:High is Turner. Just blew me away.
And low is Waiters, I didn't even expect that.
This+ the Mozgov deal...
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stitches wrote:bondom34 wrote:High is Turner. Just blew me away.
And low is Waiters, I didn't even expect that.
This+ the Mozgov deal...
Yeah, I remember thinking it was a mistake on NBA TV when I first saw it.
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Turner, to me by far was the strangest deal.
Waiters I thought was going to get 3x that. Sully close to twice that, but both players wanted a mulligan and did not want to commit on a mulityear pact
With Ezili, when he signed that deal, I thought his medical must show a degenerative condition.
I never thought that Noah was going to get a 4 year deal. I thought he was going to get the $$$, just not for 4 years
Mosgov had a bad year, but his play in years before that was kind of inline with his contract. I thought he was going to get 1 year and 10.
Waiters I thought was going to get 3x that. Sully close to twice that, but both players wanted a mulligan and did not want to commit on a mulityear pact
With Ezili, when he signed that deal, I thought his medical must show a degenerative condition.
I never thought that Noah was going to get a 4 year deal. I thought he was going to get the $$$, just not for 4 years
Mosgov had a bad year, but his play in years before that was kind of inline with his contract. I thought he was going to get 1 year and 10.
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High: There's a lot of options in this category, Turner, Plumlee, Mozgov, Hill, Johnson, Noah, Rivers...
Low: Ezeli was the biggest shocker for me. Even with the injury issues him getting less than 10 mil per seems crazy especially when you consider what Plumlee got.
Low: Ezeli was the biggest shocker for me. Even with the injury issues him getting less than 10 mil per seems crazy especially when you consider what Plumlee got.
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