Michael Carter-Williams for a backup SF. What is your best offer ?

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Re: Michael Carter-Williams for a backup SF. What is your best offer ? 

Post#41 » by Fotis St » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:28 pm

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtgj4f5

MCW +Ennis + Vaughn for Shumpert
Or
MCW + Henson for Shumpert + Mo Williams (retire-waived) + McRae.

If Henson gets traded, Bucks keep Monroe for a year or 2, after that Thon Maker would be ready to play and replace him as our backup C.
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Post#42 » by Resistance » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:05 pm

Fotis St wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtgj4f5

MCW +Ennis + Vaughn for Shumpert
Or
MCW + Henson for Shumpert + Mo Williams (retire-waived) + McRae.

If Henson gets traded, Bucks keep Monroe for a year or 2, after that Thon Maker would be ready to play and replace him as our backup C.




Jason Terry is the backup PG?

Who is the third PG for the Bucks?
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Re: Michael Carter-Williams for a backup SF. What is your best offer ? 

Post#43 » by wise1-2 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:06 pm

Casspi? maybe a back up SG instead in McLemore?
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Post#44 » by Fotis St » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:17 pm

Resistance wrote:
Fotis St wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtgj4f5

MCW +Ennis + Vaughn for Shumpert
Or
MCW + Henson for Shumpert + Mo Williams (retire-waived) + McRae.

If Henson gets traded, Bucks keep Monroe for a year or 2, after that Thon Maker would be ready to play and replace him as our backup C.




Jason Terry is the backup PG?

Who is the third PG for the Bucks?

Terry, Brogdon and Giannis can handle the 16 backup minutes. Brogdon didn't make a single turnover in whole summer league games, which indicates point guard skill, his handles need work but he has high bb iq.
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Re: Michael Carter-Williams for a backup SF. What is your best offer ? 

Post#45 » by Fotis St » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:37 pm

wise1-2 wrote:Casspi? maybe a back up SG instead in McLemore?

Casspi would be fine, but MCW goes RFA while Casspi goes UFA. So I would request a 2nd.
Casspi and a 2nd is a fair deal.
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Post#46 » by Prez » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:46 pm

Fotis St wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtgj4f5

MCW +Ennis + Vaughn for Shumpert
Or
MCW + Henson for Shumpert + Mo Williams (retire-waived) + McRae.

If Henson gets traded, Bucks keep Monroe for a year or 2, after that Thon Maker would be ready to play and replace him as our backup C.
These are awful for the Bucks. Shump is totally mediocre, why would we trade 3 pieces for him? Especially the Henson trade, zero reason to do that one.
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Post#47 » by Fotis St » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:11 pm

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Fotis St wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtgj4f5

MCW +Ennis + Vaughn for Shumpert
Or
MCW + Henson for Shumpert + Mo Williams (retire-waived) + McRae.

If Henson gets traded, Bucks keep Monroe for a year or 2, after that Thon Maker would be ready to play and replace him as our backup C.
These are awful for the Bucks. Shump is totally mediocre, why would we trade 3 pieces for him? Especially the Henson trade, zero reason to do that one.

Shumpert was the backup SF/SG for the Champions, and would totally fit as our backup SF. He is not totally mediocre, he does have a elite skill, he is a shut down defender most of the times, and we need his defense to our 2nd squad.
As for the Henson issue, I would rather have 2 years of Monroe as Bucks backup C than 4 years of Henson playing backup C.
You prefer the opposite. But my plan leaves room for Maker to grow, who you didn't like either. So we disagree, that's fine.
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Post#48 » by Magic Giannison » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:57 am

Shumpert doesnt have any elite skill, he is at BEST mediocre. Just because he played for the champions doesnt mean he is elite.
I wouldnt trade mcw for him much less Henson.
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Post#49 » by Golabki » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:34 pm

Magic Giannison wrote:Shumpert doesnt have any elite skill, he is at BEST mediocre. Just because he played for the champions doesnt mean he is elite.
I wouldnt trade mcw for him much less Henson.

At his worst Shump is mediocre and a bit overpaid but still a useful playable wing.

At his best Shump is a very good defensive role player.
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Post#50 » by Golabki » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:35 pm

Milbuck wrote:
Fotis St wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtgj4f5

MCW +Ennis + Vaughn for Shumpert
Or
MCW + Henson for Shumpert + Mo Williams (retire-waived) + McRae.

If Henson gets traded, Bucks keep Monroe for a year or 2, after that Thon Maker would be ready to play and replace him as our backup C.
These are awful for the Bucks. Shump is totally mediocre, why would we trade 3 pieces for him? Especially the Henson trade, zero reason to do that one.

Wait a sec, what value does henson have?
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Post#51 » by K_chile22 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:46 pm

Magic Giannison wrote:Shumpert doesnt have any elite skill, he is at BEST mediocre. Just because he played for the champions doesnt mean he is elite.
I wouldnt trade mcw for him much less Henson.

At best MCW is mediocre as well so makes sense to me


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Post#52 » by jbk1234 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:25 pm

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RightToCensor wrote:HOU sends: K.J. McDaniels, Sam Dekker

MIL sends: Michael Carter-Williams, 2018 2nd Round Pick from Dallas

Rockets could use a PG and MCW is a player worth taking a chance on at the right price. Unfortunately he's a free agent after this season so his long term value is questionable.

Bucks are getting two young wings, one of them is a potential athletic 3&D player and the other is a hometown kid with a winning attitude and untapped potential.


I really like this.


I'd be concerned with what happened to the Rockets offense when Harden sat. A Beverly/MCW rotation is a little dicey offensively.
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Re: Michael Carter-Williams for a backup SF. What is your best offer ? 

Post#53 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:28 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
RightToCensor wrote:HOU sends: K.J. McDaniels, Sam Dekker

MIL sends: Michael Carter-Williams, 2018 2nd Round Pick from Dallas

Rockets could use a PG and MCW is a player worth taking a chance on at the right price. Unfortunately he's a free agent after this season so his long term value is questionable.

Bucks are getting two young wings, one of them is a potential athletic 3&D player and the other is a hometown kid with a winning attitude and untapped potential.


I really like this.


I'd be concerned with what happened to the Rockets offense when Harden sat. A Beverly/MCW rotation is a little dicey offensively.


Gordon is the gunner when Harden sits. I would never pair those two. Now if Gordon gets hurt, that could get ugly I suppose for the backup Harden minutes.
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Post#54 » by Magic Giannison » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:06 pm

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Magic Giannison wrote:Shumpert doesnt have any elite skill, he is at BEST mediocre. Just because he played for the champions doesnt mean he is elite.
I wouldnt trade mcw for him much less Henson.

At best MCW is mediocre as well so makes sense to me


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MCW is very good at defense, no way he is mediocre in that department.
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Post#55 » by K_chile22 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:09 pm

Magic Giannison wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
Magic Giannison wrote:Shumpert doesnt have any elite skill, he is at BEST mediocre. Just because he played for the champions doesnt mean he is elite.
I wouldnt trade mcw for him much less Henson.

At best MCW is mediocre as well so makes sense to me


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MCW is very good at defense, no way he is mediocre in that department.

Shumpert is probably better at defense. And his broken jumper is better than MCW's broken jumper. And he plays a position of higher value.


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