Hayward to LA Clippers (FA Summer 2017)

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Re: Hayward to LA Clippers (FA Summer 2017) 

Post#21 » by red96 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:38 pm

villematic32 wrote:It appears Doc Rivers is confident Chris Paul and Blake Griffin want to stay in LA but other teams such as NYK and Boston will throw interesting pitches to both guys if they opt out. Would Gordon Hayward to LAC be enough to sign both guys back and give GSW a run for their money?

If I did my math correctly (please correct me if im wrong ... nvm I know you will) Chris Paul and Blake Griffin opting out + a Paul Pierce retirement (3.7 million, non garunteed) would leave LAC 40 million under the 2017-18 salary cap (est. 102 million-soft) (122 million-luxury). With the new CBA, Paul and Griffin would obviously be able to sign with more, Should Paul, Griffin, & Hayward take a paycut for a chance play together.

1. This could be CP3 last go round at contending for a championship as a star.

2. Hayward would be the best SF in LAC in the Paul-Griffin era. Finally gives them an offensive weapon at that spot.

3. Doc Rivers is a championship coach. This would be the most talent and experienced he's had since his last championship.

4. I understand money being an issue for Hayward but Paul and Griffin make a ton outside of basketball. Paul has to be thinking about what his friends did in Miami and realize that a paycut like this could pay off.

Or should they go chase money or a title somewhere else?

(Other factors .... JJ Reddick would also take huge paycut to resign as well & Luc Mbah a Moute has a an ETO worth 2.3 million. Not much but I assume every dollar would count)

Your proposing the near impossible. The Clippers just won't have the cap to sign Hayward while pay their current big 3. Even without Blake and CP3's big raises, the Clippers are over 109 million in salary for 2017. To make it work Griffin, CP3, and Hayward would all have to sign for less than 15 Million each. :lol: Hell would freeze over before that happens .
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Re: Hayward to LA Clippers (FA Summer 2017) 

Post#22 » by red96 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:42 pm

The Celtics, Rockets, and maybe the Spurs, are the only winning teams that could make a good run for Hayward.
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Re: Hayward to LA Clippers (FA Summer 2017) 

Post#23 » by villematic32 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:47 pm

red96 wrote:The Celtics, Rockets, and maybe the Spurs, are the only winning teams that could make a good run for Hayward.

Spurs? that's interesting.
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Re: Hayward to LA Clippers (FA Summer 2017) 

Post#24 » by red96 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:55 pm

villematic32 wrote:
red96 wrote:The Celtics, Rockets, and maybe the Spurs, are the only winning teams that could make a good run for Hayward.

Spurs? that's interesting.

I see the Spurs as a long shot because they would probably have to lose Manu(retire) and Gasol plus some to get the space. Hayward doesn't fit perfectly in the Spurs lineup either. Either LMA, Hayward, or Kawhi would have to play out of there normal position or 1 would have to come off the bench. But Hayward could just slide right in on the Rockets or Celtics.
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Re: Hayward to LA Clippers (FA Summer 2017) 

Post#25 » by weekend_warrior » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:31 pm

The Clippers shouldn't have handed out those terrible (longterm) contracts to Crawford, Rivers and Wesley Johnson. There is your 30 million of cap space.
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Re: Hayward to LA Clippers (FA Summer 2017) 

Post#26 » by villematic32 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:40 pm

weekend_warrior wrote:The Clippers shouldn't have handed out those terrible (longterm) contracts to Crawford, Rivers and Wesley Johnson. There is your 30 million of cap space.


especially Wesley johnson
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Re: Hayward to LA Clippers (FA Summer 2017) 

Post#27 » by giberish » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:54 pm

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giberish wrote:The Heatles took about a 10-15% paycut. This would require a 50-75% paycut. It's just not happening.


40 million split between 3 is 13.3 million. That's just including the soft. Before exemptions or anything thats not 50 %. Hayward could lose roughly 3 million (not anywhere close to 50%) and the clippers would clearly have to make a great deal using exemptions (Bird Rights, etc) No one would take a 50% pay cut. Prob no more than 35% at best.


Hayward can make ~$30M/yr next summer. $13.3M is more then a 50% pay cut. Paul can make even more
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Re: Hayward to LA Clippers (FA Summer 2017) 

Post#28 » by stitches » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:46 am

The answer is straight up NO. 40M is barely enough to get one of them. How are you going to get all of them for 40M? Lol.
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Re: Hayward to LA Clippers (FA Summer 2017) 

Post#29 » by QRich3 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:10 am

Heh I used to have an Excel document at work, strictly dedicated to ways the Clippers could open capspace to get Hayward in FA. That was before Crawford's and Austin's contracts :(

It would require dumping Rivers, Wes and Crawford for clean capspace (I can see the first two, not Jamal unless they pay a crazy price), and even then it'd require one of these two things:

- Both Paul and Griffin opting into the last year of their contracts, and Hayward accepting a contract starting at $18M.

- Hayward accepting a contract starting at about $25M (so already a paycut), and both Paul and Griffin taking a 1+1 contract starting at about $19M (so about a $16M paycut each).

Neither of them is realistic at all. A pity cause Hayward would be exactly what the Clippers need at SF.

PS- Oh, and that was before the new CBA, when cap holds for empty roster spots were $562,493 each, and Redick's cap hold was $11,066,250. It's even more impossible now that all those numbers are gonna be bigger.

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