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Ill offer this idea for
-Raptors get more depth/cap flexibility and pick for Barrett while getting under tax apron
-Wizards add a guy in mid 20s to provide scoring and backcourt versatility with McCollum as a big guard
-Jazz clear up glut of 4s and get younger with a younger wing

To Toronto (Trade Barrett, waive Lawson & Battle)
-Kyle Anderson (2 years, $18.9 million)
-Malaki Branham (! year, $4.9 million) *waive*
-Justin Champagne ((2 years, $5 million plus T.O.)
-2026 Knicks 2nd via Washignton
-2027 Warriors 2nd via Washington
-2030 Clippers 2nd via Utah

Tp Washington (Trade Kispert, Branham, Champagne, 2 2nds)
-RJ Barrett (2 years, $57.7 million)

To Utah (Trade Anderson, 2nd)
-Corey Kispert (4 years, $54 million - 4th year T.O,)

Why?
-The Raptors get a veteran backup 4 in Anderson while Boyles develops while getting around $11 million under tax apron if they want to go out and use exemption money on a backup PG

Quickley/FA?/Shead
Dick/Walter/Temple
Ingram/Agbaji/Champagnie
BArnes/ANderson/Boyles
Poeltl/Mobgo/Mamu

-The Wizards add a more dynamic socoring guard in Barrett to can play alongside McCollum and share handling the ball as the Wizards have 2 young PGs

Barrett/Carrtington/Johnson
McCollum/Johnson/George
Middleton/Coulibali/RIley/James
Whitmore/Gill
Sarr/Bagley/FA?

-The Jazz clear up gluts of 4s and get a younger wing who is signed on a flat, MLE based deal for next 3 years

Collier/Calyton Jr./
Bailey/Williams/George
Kispert/Sensabaugh/Mykhaliuk
Markannen/Niang/Hendricks
Kessler/Nurkic/Filipwoski/Love

I'd rather keep SloMo and his contract with no guaranteed future money than to take on two additional guaranteed years of Kispert. He's fine when his shot is falling, but I don't see him contributing in any other ways on the court; the next time I see him play effective defense will be the first.

I'd actually prefer Champagne on his 3-year deal at a vet-minimum salary over RJ Barrett at $28M a year. Barrett just hasn't proven he is anything more than an average player - a guy who can get you some scoring volume, but not with much efficiency. And going into his 7th season, I think he is what he is.

Champagne is actually a really good role player. He hits 3's, rebounds great for his position, plays D, and doesn't turn the ball over. I think there's a good chance that a capped-out contender who needs some wing depth will cough up a late FRP to land a competent rotation player like Champagne who is locked into a vet-min deal for 3 years.

nate33 wrote:I'd actually prefer Champagne on his 3-year deal at a vet-minimum salary over RJ Barrett at $28M a year. Barrett just hasn't proven he is anything more than an average player - a guy who can get you some scoring volume, but not with much efficiency. And going into his 7th season, I think he is what he is.

Champagne is actually a really good role player. He hits 3's, rebounds great for his position, plays D, and doesn't turn the ball over. I think there's a good chance that a capped-out contender who needs some wing depth will cough up a late FRP to land a competent rotation player like Champagne who is locked into a vet-min deal for 3 years.

efficiency? When he was in his correct role with Siakam, IQ, and Barnes he was shooting 55/40 and getting 20+ a game. The Raptors won't trade him for garbage they'd probably try to bring him back on a discounted deal to avoid the tax.

His DPM has also improved by 50% and was treading up towards the end of the season. He's gradually becoming more of a positive BPM player, the years he spent in NY hurt his development but he can still improve and he definitely is.

Thaddy wrote:

nate33 wrote:I'd actually prefer Champagne on his 3-year deal at a vet-minimum salary over RJ Barrett at $28M a year. Barrett just hasn't proven he is anything more than an average player - a guy who can get you some scoring volume, but not with much efficiency. And going into his 7th season, I think he is what he is.

Champagne is actually a really good role player. He hits 3's, rebounds great for his position, plays D, and doesn't turn the ball over. I think there's a good chance that a capped-out contender who needs some wing depth will cough up a late FRP to land a competent rotation player like Champagne who is locked into a vet-min deal for 3 years.

efficiency? When he was in his correct role with Siakam, IQ, and Barnes he was shooting 55/40 and getting 20+ a game. The Raptors won't trade him for garbage they'd probably try to bring him back on a discounted deal to avoid the tax.

His DPM has also improved by 50% and was treading up towards the end of the season. He's gradually becoming more of a positive BPM player, the years he spent in NY hurt his development but he can still improve and he definitely is.

A sg or sf needs to shoot 85% or above from the ft line to be efficient. 80% is not really ideal but you can work with it. 75% you are hoping to find an upgrade.

Barrett is a career 70% from the ft line. His last 90 games he has shoot 63% from the ft line.

Who is trying to add a sg or sf that shoots 63% from the ft line and also makes 60 mil over the next two years? He trash, bro.

Why is he shooting 63% from ft over the last 90 games? Either he is rattled or just collecting them checks and not practicing to hard.

RJ is the least valuable player in this deal so Toronto shouldn't be getting any picks in return.

GoBobs wrote:

Thaddy wrote:

nate33 wrote:I'd actually prefer Champagne on his 3-year deal at a vet-minimum salary over RJ Barrett at $28M a year. Barrett just hasn't proven he is anything more than an average player - a guy who can get you some scoring volume, but not with much efficiency. And going into his 7th season, I think he is what he is.

Champagne is actually a really good role player. He hits 3's, rebounds great for his position, plays D, and doesn't turn the ball over. I think there's a good chance that a capped-out contender who needs some wing depth will cough up a late FRP to land a competent rotation player like Champagne who is locked into a vet-min deal for 3 years.

efficiency? When he was in his correct role with Siakam, IQ, and Barnes he was shooting 55/40 and getting 20+ a game. The Raptors won't trade him for garbage they'd probably try to bring him back on a discounted deal to avoid the tax.

His DPM has also improved by 50% and was treading up towards the end of the season. He's gradually becoming more of a positive BPM player, the years he spent in NY hurt his development but he can still improve and he definitely is.

A sg or sf needs to shoot 85% or above from the ft line to be efficient. 80% is not really ideal but you can work with it. 75% you are hoping to find an upgrade.

Barrett is a career 70% from the ft line. His last 90 games he has shoot 63% from the ft line.

Who is trying to add a sg or sf that shoots 63% from the ft line and also makes 60 mil over the next two years? He trash, bro.

Why is he shooting 63% from ft over the last 90 games? Either he is rattled or just collecting them checks and not practicing to hard.

He shot decent in NY before he was traded, it's weird and I'd rather gamble on that getting better than a bunch of bad picks.

I was looking at this and thinking . . .
Washington takes on long term salary for a player who has never been a needle mover. Might be a solid player but not a game changer which Washington needs.
Washington takes on another g/f that will block key development players Tre Johnson, Coulibaly, and George.
Washington gives up Justin Champagne who is a solid NBA player on a very good contract for someone who seems to be overpaid.
The Wiz also lose Kispert who is a solid roleplaying 3 point shooter and one who didn't complain about playing behind a trio of 18-20 year olds.
And they get to pay 2 2nds for the honor.

Seems . . . way off. Even if Barrett was worth his contract, this is at least a year early to be making this type of deal for the Wizards.

Thaddy wrote:

GoBobs wrote:

Thaddy wrote:efficiency? When he was in his correct role with Siakam, IQ, and Barnes he was shooting 55/40 and getting 20+ a game. The Raptors won't trade him for garbage they'd probably try to bring him back on a discounted deal to avoid the tax.

His DPM has also improved by 50% and was treading up towards the end of the season. He's gradually becoming more of a positive BPM player, the years he spent in NY hurt his development but he can still improve and he definitely is.

A sg or sf needs to shoot 85% or above from the ft line to be efficient. 80% is not really ideal but you can work with it. 75% you are hoping to find an upgrade.

Barrett is a career 70% from the ft line. His last 90 games he has shoot 63% from the ft line.

Who is trying to add a sg or sf that shoots 63% from the ft line and also makes 60 mil over the next two years? He trash, bro.

Why is he shooting 63% from ft over the last 90 games? Either he is rattled or just collecting them checks and not practicing to hard.

He shot decent in NY before he was traded, it's weird and I'd rather gamble on that getting better than a bunch of bad picks.

No, he didn't. For his career he is regularly one of the least efficient players in the NBA by TS and FG added, in effect, his efficiency is bad and his volume is extremely high - meaning his inefficiency is also really impactful.

Last season he was 537th in TS added out of 569 players
in 23-24 he was 214/572
in 22-23 he was 534/539
in 21-22 he was 602/605
in 20-21 he was 527/540
in 19-20 he was 529/529

He is brutally inefficient and one of the singularly least valuable offensive players in the NBA throughout his career with exception to one season.

penbeast0 wrote:I was looking at this and thinking . . .
Washington takes on long term salary for a player who has never been a needle mover. Might be a solid player but not a game changer which Washington needs.
Washington takes on another g/f that will block key development players Tre Johnson, Coulibaly, and George.
Washington gives up Justin Champagne who is a solid NBA player on a very good contract for someone who seems to be overpaid.
The Wiz also lose Kispert who is a solid roleplaying 3 point shooter and one who didn't complain about playing behind a trio of 18-20 year olds.
And they get to pay 2 2nds for the honor.

Seems . . . way off. Even if Barrett was worth his contract, this is at least a year early to be making this type of deal for the Wizards.

The Wizards still have very raw talent that needs to be developed over the next 2 years. Its entirely possible that McCollum and Middleotn seek buyouts before end of this season which would to open up more minutes for their young players 50-60 games in this season. RJ is not going to cannibalize any minutes based on that dynamic.

Barrett, although not a strongly efficient score can in fact, score and handle the ball to play multiple positions between the 1, 2 and 3. The Wizards can always use the $29.9 million cap hit to RJ in a greater trade either summer of 2026 or during 26-27 season. Its not like the Wizrads are going to be signing any UFA's summer of 2026 so the money they take on is inconsequential.

Lastly, the 2026 Knicks 2nd will likley be in the 50s and the Warriors are likely a making at least the playin for 26-27 so their 2027 2nd will be in the 40s. The Wizards would still have excess 2nd round picks in their pipeline. Perhaps remove the Warriors 2027 2nd from the OP.

Bentley1225 wrote:

penbeast0 wrote:I was looking at this and thinking . . .
Washington takes on long term salary for a player who has never been a needle mover. Might be a solid player but not a game changer which Washington needs.
Washington takes on another g/f that will block key development players Tre Johnson, Coulibaly, and George.
Washington gives up Justin Champagne who is a solid NBA player on a very good contract for someone who seems to be overpaid.
The Wiz also lose Kispert who is a solid roleplaying 3 point shooter and one who didn't complain about playing behind a trio of 18-20 year olds.
And they get to pay 2 2nds for the honor.

Seems . . . way off. Even if Barrett was worth his contract, this is at least a year early to be making this type of deal for the Wizards.

The Wizards still have very raw talent that needs to be developed over the next 2 years. Its entirely possible that McCollum and Middleotn seek buyouts before end of this season which would to open up more minutes for their young players 50-60 games in this season. RJ is not going to cannibalize any minutes based on that dynamic.

Barrett, although not a strongly efficient score can in fact, score and handle the ball to play multiple positions between the 1, 2 and 3. The Wizards can always use the $29.9 million cap hit to RJ in a greater trade either summer of 2026 or during 26-27 season. Its not like the Wizrads are going to be signing any UFA's summer of 2026 so the money they take on is inconsequential.

Lastly, the 2026 Knicks 2nd will likley be in the 50s and the Warriors are likely a making at least the playin for 26-27 so their 2027 2nd will be in the 40s. The Wizards would still have excess 2nd round picks in their pipeline. Perhaps remove the Warriors 2027 2nd from the OP.

There just isn't a compelling reason for the Wizards to do this.

Bentley1225 wrote:

penbeast0 wrote:I was looking at this and thinking . . .
Washington takes on long term salary for a player who has never been a needle mover. Might be a solid player but not a game changer which Washington needs.
Washington takes on another g/f that will block key development players Tre Johnson, Coulibaly, and George.
Washington gives up Justin Champagne who is a solid NBA player on a very good contract for someone who seems to be overpaid.
The Wiz also lose Kispert who is a solid roleplaying 3 point shooter and one who didn't complain about playing behind a trio of 18-20 year olds.
And they get to pay 2 2nds for the honor.

Seems . . . way off. Even if Barrett was worth his contract, this is at least a year early to be making this type of deal for the Wizards.

The Wizards still have very raw talent that needs to be developed over the next 2 years. Its entirely possible that McCollum and Middleotn seek buyouts before end of this season which would to open up more minutes for their young players 50-60 games in this season. RJ is not going to cannibalize any minutes based on that dynamic.

Barrett, although not a strongly efficient score can in fact, score and handle the ball to play multiple positions between the 1, 2 and 3. The Wizards can always use the $29.9 million cap hit to RJ in a greater trade either summer of 2026 or during 26-27 season. Its not like the Wizrads are going to be signing any UFA's summer of 2026 so the money they take on is inconsequential.

Lastly, the 2026 Knicks 2nd will likley be in the 50s and the Warriors are likely a making at least the playin for 26-27 so their 2027 2nd will be in the 40s. The Wizards would still have excess 2nd round picks in their pipeline. Perhaps remove the Warriors 2027 2nd from the OP.

(a) We have the following players that are on their rookie contract and were 1st rounders that all play the 2 or 3 (Barrett isn't the distributor you want at the 1 on a team with limited secondary distributors):
Tre Johnson, Bilal Coulibaly, Bub Carrington, Kyshawn George, Cam Whitmore, Will Riley, AJ Johnson, Dillon Jones, and Malachi Brabham and that's in addition to Corey Kispert, Justin Champagnie and this year's 2nd rounder Jamir Watkins. There is definitely a minutes crunch on the wing and the Wiz will have some of these guys try to learn to play the point or power forward just to fit them all in. So, yes, RJ will definitely get in the way of developing some of these players as they compete to see who is a keeper and who is not. Unless you see Barrett being happy to do as Kispert did last year and get his minutes cut way down so we can look at a bunch of young players that we plan to replace him with. I don't see that as something he would do.

(b) What are the Wiz getting paid to take on a negative contract cap hit if that's how you are valuing him? We are giving up both players we like at their price point and draft capital and for what, for a contract that you say can be traded later? If he's that easy to trade, the Raptors can do it somewhere else or give us value for the cap hit.

(c) We have excess 2nds and may (we hope!) be a playoff team but as constituted, we need to either have one of those guys (Tre, Bub, or Bilal) step up to be a #1 guy, hit on one in the draft, or sign one as a FA into the max money cap space we will have (if we don't give it away in deals like this). Otherwise, I don't see the team making the playoffs even in 26-27.