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TO- MIL- Miami blockbuster

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:22 pm
by TGM
Miami receives

Anthony Parker
Maurice Williams
Dan Gadzuric

Toronto receives

Michael Redd
Royal Ivey
Awvee Storey
Alexander Johnson
David Noel

Milwaukee receives

Jose Calderon
Daequan Cook
Carlos Delfino
Juan Dixon
Jorge Garbajosa
Ricky Davis
Jason Williams
Toronto 2008 first round pick

Why for Milwaukee? This deal helps them rebuild big time. Jose Calderon is a fit for Milwaukee, he is also fairly young allowing him to grow with Bogut, Charlie V and Yi. Cook and Delfino give Milwaukee two more young prospects. Delfino has really come around this year and looks like he is ready to take on a starting role. Dixon, Davis and Williams, give Milwaukee a combined 19 million in expiring contracts, while Jorge's contract could potentially be covered by insurance. If Jorge returns he is an excellent glue guy to have on the team, and his deal expires next season. The first round pick will be in the late teens to early 20's. This deal allows Milwaukee to pursue a younger guard in the offseason with guys like Ben Gordon, Andre Iguodala, Loul Deng, Gilbert Arenas available.

Why for Miami? They address all three needs, and at the cost of two expiring contracts and a young prospect. Parker gives Miami a solid 3pt shooter, something they lack since Kapono left. Parker is also an excellent defender and would fit nicely next to Wade at the 3. Mo Williams gives Miami the third scoring option they are looking for to complement Wade and Shaq. Gadz has a big contract, but is young and extremely athletic. He would be a solid backup to Shaq and give the Heat a shot-blocking and rebounding presence off the bench.

Why for Toronto? They clearly get the best player in the deal, but give up a lot of depth. Redd is a missing piece that could make Toronto a legit contender. Toronto moves several young players in the deal. Calderon is a very underrated PG, but Toronto is better off moving him, than TJ Ford who is probably now wort 50 cent to the dollar.

Lineups

Milwaukee - Not really relevant, as they are primarily going for cap space, however the team will be significantly revamped in the off-season. They should also get a really high pick in this years draft.

Miami

Mo Williams - Smush Parker - Chris Quinn
Dwayne Wade - Luke Jackson - Smush Parker
Anthony Parker - Dorrell Wright -
Udonis Haslem - Mark Blount - Joel Anthony
Shaq - Dan Gadzuric - Earl Barron

Toronto

TJ Ford - Royal Ivey - Derrick Martin
Michael Redd - Jason Kapono - Awvee Storey
Jamario Moon - Joey Graham - David Noel
Chris Bosh - Kris Humprhies - Maceo Baston
Andrea Bargnani - Rasho Nesterovic - Alexander Johnson

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:25 pm
by BBallFreak
Miami takes the deal.

Re: TO- MIL- Miami blockbuster

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:26 pm
by RomaniaLuvTR
TGM wrote:Miami receives

Anthony Parker
Maurice Williams
Dan Gadzuric

Toronto receives

Michael Redd
Royal Ivey
Awvee Storey
Alexander Johnson
David Noel

Milwaukee receives

Jose Calderon
Daequan Cook
Carlos Delfino
Juan Dixon
Jorge Garbajosa
Ricky Davis
Jason Williams
Toronto 2008 first round pick

Why for Milwaukee? This deal helps them rebuild big time. Jose Calderon is a fit for Milwaukee, he is also fairly young allowing him to grow with Bogut, Charlie V and Yi. Cook and Delfino give Milwaukee two more young prospects. Delfino has really come around this year and looks like he is ready to take on a starting role. Dixon, Davis and Williams, give Milwaukee a combined 19 million in expiring contracts, while Jorge's contract could potentially be covered by insurance. If Jorge returns he is an excellent glue guy to have on the team, and his deal expires next season. The first round pick will be in the late teens to early 20's. This deal allows Milwaukee to pursue a younger guard in the offseason with guys like Ben Gordon, Andre Iguodala, Loul Deng, Gilbert Arenas available.

Why for Miami? They address all three needs, and at the cost of two expiring contracts and a young prospect. Parker gives Miami a solid 3pt shooter, something they lack since Kapono left. Parker is also an excellent defender and would fit nicely next to Wade at the 3. Mo Williams gives Miami the third scoring option they are looking for to complement Wade and Shaq. Gadz has a big contract, but is young and extremely athletic. He would be a solid backup to Shaq and give the Heat a shot-blocking and rebounding presence off the bench.

Why for Toronto? They clearly get the best player in the deal, but give up a lot of depth. Redd is a missing piece that could make Toronto a legit contender. Toronto moves several young players in the deal. Calderon is a very underrated PG, but Toronto is better off moving him, than TJ Ford who is probably now wort 50 cent to the dollar.

Lineups

Milwaukee - Not really relevant, as they are primarily going for cap space, however the team will be significantly revamped in the off-season. They should also get a really high pick in this years draft.

Miami

Mo Williams - Smush Parker - Chris Quinn
Dwayne Wade - Luke Jackson - Smush Parker
Anthony Parker - Dorrell Wright -
Udonis Haslem - Mark Blount - Joel Anthony
Shaq - Dan Gadzuric - Earl Barron

Toronto

TJ Ford - Royal Ivey - Derrick Martin
Michael Redd - Jason Kapono - Awvee Storey
Jamario Moon - Joey Graham - David Noel
Chris Bosh - Kris Humprhies - Maceo Baston
Andrea Bargnani - Rasho Nesterovic - Alexander Johnson
sorry but raptors cannot trade their 1st round in 2008 and i like redd a lot but 5 good player and a 1st round for redd and scrubs??are u crazy?

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:31 pm
by trwi7
Bad for Milwaukee.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:45 pm
by Kosta
LOL. That deal is terrible for Milwaukee. I think they'd love to get a Mo/Caldy one for one type deal going though. But how do the rest of the players in the deal even remotely come close to Redd? It would basically be Cook, Delfino, a pick and expiring contracts for Redd. Somehow I don't think the Bucks would be interested.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:19 am
by TGM
Kosta wrote:LOL. That deal is terrible for Milwaukee. I think they'd love to get a Mo/Caldy one for one type deal going though. But how do the rest of the players in the deal even remotely come close to Redd? It would basically be Cook, Delfino, a pick and expiring contracts for Redd. Somehow I don't think the Bucks would be interested.


Well its not like Cook, Delfino and a pick along with 19 million in expiring contracts and also dumping Gadz 6 million is chump change. Milwaukee would be one of the few teams being significantly under the cap. They could have a very good chance of prying off one of the young swingmen that will be available in the offseaon. Who knows they could go and sign Gilbert Arenas.

Not sure, how much more Milwaukee can expect. Miami I guess could switch Cook with Dorrell Wright.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:44 am
by Flash is the Future
We'd prefer that :D

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:45 am
by zong
i dont understand, are the bucks looking to rebuild or retool?

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:48 am
by trwi7
zong wrote:i dont understand, are the bucks looking to rebuild or retool?


We should rebuild but knowing that dumbass Kohl we'll probably try to put a band-aid on everything and continue or cycle of mediocrity or worse.

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:41 pm
by Hoops23
Miami will not do this deal.

The Heat tried to sign Mo-Will for their entire MLE for 5 years at $31M but the Bucks over paid for him at $51M. The issue here is his contract that is over paid and runs till 2013 and affect our cap space when Shaq

Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:01 pm
by Flash is the Future
I've got to agree. We can't take on Mo AND Gadzuric. It would undermine our 2010 FA plan. Simmons is a possibilty. But not Gadzuric.

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 6:07 pm
by MartyConlonOnTheRun
Hoops23 wrote:Miami will not do this deal.

The Heat tried to sign Mo-Will for their entire MLE for 5 years at $31M but the Bucks over paid for him at $51M. The issue here is his contract that is over paid and runs till 2013 and affect our cap space when Shaq

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 7:37 pm
by hermes
trwi7 wrote:Bad for Milwaukee.