Marion to Washington

[nate33]

Etan Thomas and Antonio Daniels for Mark Blount, Daequan Cook, Stephane Lasme.

The Wizards save some serious cash, pick up a prospect for their trouble, and manage to lose very little in on-court production.

The Heat pick up 2 rotation players for the cost of Cook, basically, and don't affect their '10 capspace.

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Meh. Blount costs a million per year more than Etan. The Wizards do get some savings by swapping Daniels for Cook and Lasme, but they could probably trade Daniels for an expiring contract or trade exemption elsewhere without also downgrading from Etan to Blount.

At any rate, the Wizards aren't that interested in dumping Daniels for cap room. They'd first need to find a replacement.

[mohammed10]

replace Jamison with Caron and Haywood with Thomas and it's a deal

Good Lord, no. Why don't you have Washington throw in Arenas, while you're at it???

And please, can we stop adding Haywood to deals like he's some sort of filler? He's a more than servicable C with a decent contract. You aren't going to get him unless you have a quality C to return and since Miami doesn't offer one in this deal...

[old rem]

I'm not sure MIA would make this deal, it messes with their 2010 cap space. The value is good for them though.

I can't see why the Wiz want to do this though, they just resigned Jamison, who has been nothing short of great for them. Marion is a bit better, but if he leaves, then Washington is left with cap space, which is nice, but never guarantees landing a good player.

I think very relevant is that Haywood-Daniels are iof more use to the Wiz than Haslem-Quinn.

were Marion signed up to an equal contract,he might have a small edge on Jamison,but Marion is more $ for a year then......who knows. The Wiz won't want to risk putting the Heat back in the playoffs-possibly at their expense.

[old rem]

replace Jamison with Caron and Haywood with Thomas and it's a deal

I agree with that.

Marion and Haslem for Butler and Thomas. We might be getting the slightly shorter end of the stick here, but I guess I just like Caron enough to do it...

This could sell IF Marion is hooked up to a contract the Wiz see as agreeable. No chance they lose Butler and get uncertainty in return.

[Hallstar]

replace Jamison with Caron and Haywood with Thomas and it's a deal

Good Lord, no. Why don't you have Washington throw in Arenas, while you're at it???

And please, can we stop adding Haywood to deals like he's some sort of filler? He's a more than servicable C with a decent contract. You aren't going to get him unless you have a quality C to return and since Miami doesn't offer one in this deal...

the new deal was Caron/Thomas for Marion(extended)/Haslem

I'll assume you misunderstood.

[miller31time]

I'd do Caron/Etan for Marion/Haslem, easily.

Caron is only the backbone of our team for 60 games a year (playing injured for probably half of those 60 he manages to suit up for). Then there's his history of playoff injury which is also extensive.

Caron for Marion is already an upgrade, even if both were 100% healthy, since Marion does two things the Wiz desperately need -- rebounding and defense. Caron is great, but we don't need a guy that can do a little bit of everything. We already have him in Arenas. When you have a player like Gilbert, you need to surround him with another good scorer (Jamison) and then specialists. Marion is that guy.

When health and the fact that we're also swapping Etan for Haslem is considered, this is a no-brainer for me.

Others will disagree because Caron is a great guy and a damn good ball player, but you've got to look beyond that and see that he's also made of glass and that the things he does for the Wizards are redundant with Arenas on-board.

[Devilzsidewalk]

interesting take ^^^

Jamison/Marion would be an interesting combo, but arent both of them significantly better at PF than SF?

[miller31time]

interesting take ^^^

Jamison/Marion would be an interesting combo, but arent both of them significantly better at PF than SF?

The Wizards don't really have set positions with their variation of the Princeton Offense (with the exception of the center position). Jamison and Marion wouldn't be classified as anything but "forwards". Defensively, Marion simply takes on the best forward of the other team -- a luxury that isn't available with Caron on-board considering he's already undersized for the SF position. The Matrix can basically guard any position on the floor effectively, not to mention his style of play (running 100% of the time) is conducive to the way the Wizards play as a team (very up-tempo and always looking for the out-let man).

[miamiballer]

yes to marion/haslem for caron/etan

[mohammed10]

the new deal was Caron/Thomas for Marion(extended)/Haslem

I'll assume you misunderstood.

Did misunderstand. May be in the minority, but I would do that deal Hallstar!

[mohammed10]

I'd do Caron/Etan for Marion/Haslem, easily.

Caron is only the backbone of our team for 60 games a year (playing injured for probably half of those 60 he manages to suit up for). Then there's his history of playoff injury which is also extensive.

Caron for Marion is already an upgrade, even if both were 100% healthy, since Marion does two things the Wiz desperately need -- rebounding and defense. Caron is great, but we don't need a guy that can do a little bit of everything. We already have him in Arenas. When you have a player like Gilbert, you need to surround him with another good scorer (Jamison) and then specialists. Marion is that guy.

When health and the fact that we're also swapping Etan for Haslem is considered, this is a no-brainer for me.

Others will disagree because Caron is a great guy and a damn good ball player, but you've got to look beyond that and see that he's also made of glass and that the things he does for the Wizards are redundant with Arenas on-board.

Agree w/ millertime on this one...add this Wiz fan to the people for this deal to go down